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Small changes in the draw ;)

round*__2_____-_Jebus_Cross_09
_№____Red____________________-__Blue______________________________
-----------------------------------------------------------------------_round__2__
__1____Dirty_Player________(_1_)_-_Forrest_____________(_1_)____11-__2________
__2____KobRa______________(_1_)_-_Wicc_______________(_1_)____28-__3_______
__3____Dreamcatcher_______(_1_)_-_=Stinger=___________(_1_)_____9-__1________
__4____Oelm_______________(_1_)_-_vitalic____________(_1_)____26-__5________
__5____Pit_-_in_sake_of_LM_(_1_)_-_bRitvo4kA___________(_1_)_____6-_23________
__6____Neoandy_____________(_1_)_-_Vigo_______________(_1_)_____8-_17________
__7____But4er_____________(_0_)_-_Psyche-7____________(_1_)_____4-_25________
__8____Javdet_____________(_0_)_-_Rhox_______________(_0_)____10-_27________
__9____Duke_Esaul__________(_0_)_-_StickyFingaz________(_0_)____14-_21________
_10____Felix______________(_0_)_-_OUTLAW_____________(_0_)____18-_19________
_11____Alessandro-1977_____(_0_)_-_Aldegir____________(_0_)____20-_13_______
_12____ewgeniy_____________(_0_)_-_Uran_______________(_0_)____16-__7________
_13____Sadomazzo___________(_0_)_-_ZluqaOMG___________(_0_)____24-_15________
_14____________________________________________________________________________
Dropped:_12_Nagan-4,_22_SEM_56

A few words on the draw:
Sem56 and Nagan have withdrawn, Aldegir and Evgeny still haven't been in touch - technical issues...
Therefore, for pairs №12 and 13: I had to pair them intentionally, as their further participation in the tournament is unknown. Failure to show up for the 2nd round will result in automatic exclusion from the tournament, so as not to complicate life for those playing :)

We play until 26. 01. inclusive.

Added after 23 hours 58 minutes
Javdet (red, Tower, Nilka) def Rhox (blue, Stronghold, Tiraxor) 132

I couldn't make it to the center for the 2nd round even with two level 7 external dwellings (though the second one wasn't found immediately). More accurately, I was too stingy to upgrade ghouls, and the guards were strong. The dungeon village healed me, so all levels 1-5 external dwellings were ignored. I take the Dragon Utopia, boots from the fools, upgrade to titans and to the center at the meeting place... same as Deremif level 30 escapes from prison with exp scouting - it was her who led to the Dragon Utopia which Tirasik grabbed on a silver platter, but the shackles didn't let him escape.

And I want to thank my opponent for the noble auto-loss at 117.

Thanks for the game.

Javdet (red, Tower, Nilka) def Rhox (blue, Stronghold, Tyraxor) 132

1 week of scouting birds and 2 weeks of scouting ogres,
2nd week, found an alternative to the GO that was on the way (a horde of Ifrit Sultans from the first week) through the Bone Dragon lair, another ogre scout and a bird scout, and on turn 126, I emerged in the center right next to the Wings.

But the detour was long, and I didn't get reinforcements in time, and on turn 132, the red player had already "raided" enough.

Thanks for the game.

Okay, here's the situation. I have a problem with a game against Neoandi...

He hosts the server (I downloaded the RMG from the first page of the forum), we create a game, and we play for 5 days. I'm fighting, with my level 112 Barbarians, I'm defeating a hundred Gargoyles, basically, I'm constantly in battles. On the 5th day, he tells me that he has some kind of buggy generation and he doesn't want to play on a glitched map. There's no judge available on ICQ, so I ask Neo not to leave the game until the judge appears. He sent the save file to an expert, and the expert said that his hero didn't start at level 1. I don't understand how Neo didn't notice, they chose the starting artifact bonus, and he would definitely have seen that there were 4 secondary skills present during the transfer...:eek: :confused:

So, I said, okay, I messed up, it happens to everyone. I suggested that we consider this a restart and continue. But he says no! He insists on taking a mandatory rest based on the level and that's it! :eek:
I'm asking you to judge us, I'm willing to compromise, but what if we start playing now, and he doesn't like the map again and says it's glitched again.
I want to play, not argue :cool: (I'm asking you to test the map we played on for almost the first week, to see if it matches the template)

If you want to play a game, then play it, instead of starting arguments.

He sent the save file to an expert, and the expert said that the hero didn't start at level 1. I don't understand how Neo didn't notice; they chose the starting artifact bonus, and he would have definitely seen that there were 4 secondary skills present during the transfer...:eek: :confused:

Well, I said, okay, I messed up, it happens to everyone. I suggested that we consider this a restart and continue. But he said no! He insisted on taking a mandatory level-up rest and that's it!

I believe that, no matter how you look at it, the situation still warrants a mandatory restart.

I signed up for the tournament, thinking I'd have some fun. But then he showed up :smile47:. Basically, it's the same old story. It's a shame Wica wasn't on AIM – I talked to the person who showed me this map in the first place; they're a well-respected player on all the forums. If a Jebus map without a road or any path to the treasure on the sand is considered normal, you can just give me the loss. Because of this generation, I took a re111. We generated maps in turns. I already had the Jebus map downloaded, but I downloaded it from the first page of the thread – although it weighs less for some reason :confused:. In the end, the generation turned out to have almost no neutrals and nowhere to level up. The noobs ran around the map for 4 days with only 2 towns. This worried me because I've played this map 4 times and still don't fully understand the acceptable "weird generations," and I didn't want to end up saying after the game that I didn't have a real Jebus map, but some kind of unclear hybrid. We started looking for help together, and during that process, the same player told me not to worry – there was a valid reason for a restart: the starting hero was level 5. I didn't notice because I chose Tazar in the folder, and when transferring troops, I was looking at the items I was transferring and didn't notice that there were more skills. I rarely look at the skill bar; I prefer the single-hero menu. It seemed like a minor problem, but I've never been able to agree with Vigo.

If it's not too late and someone from other pairs agrees, maybe we can make some changes?

Send the save file to Javdet, let him figure it out! :)

Hey guys, here's a little puzzle for you to solve out of nowhere :). I can understand both of you, but if you wanted to, you could find a compromise. In the latest generation, there are no anomalies, but the previous one had an unexplained bug where there was no road to the center. I'd like to know Vik's opinion on this - why did this happen? Here's the solution: you play with one restart in Neo. As I understand it, Vik also has one left. If it's not clear what I was guided by, I'll answer in PM. And try to play decently, without any squabbles.;) P.S. This is for everyone: this is an unusual situation, and the rules don't say anything about "not noticing 5, 10, or 20 levels." The players are all experienced, so I hope there's no need to make changes to the rules.

If people read the topic more carefully, such questions wouldn't arise. There might not be a road to the center in two cases: either it's a "stone bag" (meaning you can't reach the center on foot at all), or there's a bugged path leading to one of the neighboring spawn points. In most cases, it's the latter. In other words, the generator is designed to connect all cities with roads, and it doesn't care about the path it takes. Therefore, if an extra hole forms in the rocks, the road might go through it instead of the main road. I didn't look at the save file because I don't have it.

Here's this mess:
I'd like to hear your opinions.
View it in the map editor.

This is outrageous:
I'd like to hear opinions.
Observe in the map editor.

Here's the first case – a rocky area. There's a Guard Tower in the center – right next to the Rampart, with horses standing nearby. And immediately behind them, a forest area is positioned in an unfortunate way, blocking the path.

Such map generations are usually considered buggy and are restarted.

Okay, I'll have to make changes to the rules as we go.
Forrest said that this hasn't happened in his experience.

Regarding the Vigo - Neo pairing:

Both players personally requested the swap. Since it's so serious, I'll accommodate them, but only if the players in the other pairing don't object. Oelm agrees to play with Vigo. If Vitalik doesn't object, then we'll settle it that way.

It's certainly possible to be accommodating, but there seem to be many cases where players refuse to play against each other... Honestly, it's like a kindergarten. If a controversial situation arises, just come to an agreement. If you can't agree, send the save file to a judge, the judge makes a decision, and you continue playing. What's the problem?

I agree. I've given my consent as a last resort, in case we can't reach an agreement, and if Vitalik doesn't object.