Posts from Counter-heroes in duel mode (3.1). Auto-translated

Well, he also has his weaknesses, I'm sure of it. Of course, he's a strong hero, especially against mass-casting heroes like Knight, Deirdra, and Leto. But he's weak against heroes with innate, skillful defense, like Shax, Airia, and Marbas. Although I haven't tested him much, I feel like many players can beat him now, even Deirdra, for example. Simply using the right runes and defensive tactics can lead to victory in a battle against not-so-experienced "Uber" players.
By the way, I almost defeated Helmar with Deirdra recently, and I almost succeeded, but then my boss showed up.

Well, they said that it was fixed significantly in 3.1. So it’s quite possible to defeat it. The Dire Wolf is far from weak.

I wonder where they fixed Helmar in 3.1. His main strengths are still the same: pyrokinesis, vengeance, cooldown reduction, and super-art. Or am I missing something?

I haven't heard anything about Helmar being affected. Karl, Nimue, and Orson have become weaker. Jalib and Ossir are stronger. Sorry if I wrote or omitted anything incorrectly. This is all based on what I've seen myself.

Happy New Year to everyone!
I'm continuing the topic. I still haven't found reliable counter-heroes for Ossir. He's a really tough hero, and there are anti-tactics and anti-heroes against him, but still, no one can consistently beat him with at least a 60% chance. Helmar can, of course, but a lucky start and early-game units can ruin all his efforts. And what's frustrating is that losing to Ossir is an uncontrollable process; you lose as if you never even had a chance. Jalib can beat him in the Abyss, and Karl can too, but I feel like it's still a 50/50 chance.

In my opinion, Ossir isn't that strong. The main thing is to quickly eliminate the archers, and then deal with the horses and trees. Vitya can defeat him quite easily. Even Deleb can! Well, if the paladins are lucky on their first attack, then Axel can too! In general, almost anyone can kill him.

In my opinion, Ossir isn't that strong. The main thing is to quickly eliminate the archers, and then use horses and trees. Vitia defeats him quite easily. Deleb can even do it :) Well, if the paladins get lucky on the first strike, then Axel can too :)

I think that in 3.1, Ossir became more overpowered, as they nerfed some heroes and some spells.
By the way, Vitia does NOT "defeat him quite easily," rather the opposite!
Letos has much more realistic chances, and even then, it's at most 50/50 for him, and Vitia has even less, but of course, it all depends on RNG.
Regarding Deleb and Axel - I can't even imagine their chances, "even with luck from the paladins" :smile08:
And regarding the lucky contenders who could theoretically kill Ossir... who? Helmar, Ibba, Sinithar, Jalib...
P.S. regarding

in general, almost anyone can kill him:)

...:smile52:

The thing is, all the heroes listed can defeat Ossir, even Razazak can, if Ossir plays absolutely perfectly. It's just that their chances of winning are small or very small, again, assuming Ossir plays absolutely perfectly. What's annoying is that the distribution of percentages is completely abrupt; Ossir simply drastically reduces all his percentages, but still leaves his opponent a chance to win. The distribution of percentages in these matchups is determined not by the skill of the players, but, for example, in many matchups, by the determination of sworn enemies and the luck of morale or luck, or by the initial lineup (which is undoubtedly annoying).
By the way, one of my acquaintances really likes to defeat Ossir with Karl, although I (and he himself) can't win with Karl against Ossir.
Ossir has already proven everything to everyone; he defeats more than half of all the heroes with a high probability. But he's not the first on the server; the first is Airya, even though she still loses to Ossir and Daedre (and that's debatable), in all other matchups she is absolutely strong, unlike the elf. Ossir is unstable and unbalanced; he may win with a higher probability, or he may not win at all.

Alex:) What are you smiling about?))) I'm quoting the words of Dex, whom I respect more than any other duelist - 'Ossi can kill any hero, except for Garuna...'. I'll add from myself, and even Garuna can do it if the opponent makes a couple of minor mistakes;)

Smiles, because I suspected as much – we're not talking about a relatively equal level of player skill. On the юбилей server, you can find an opponent who will lose with Ossir against any other hero! ;)

Here you go again. Let me give you an example. Even a strong player can lose with Ossir if they play correctly! Did you see the game where Hagesh defeated Ossir? Dex played against someone with a rating of 4 or 5 thousand. Also, have you read the duel reports on our website? Did you see one of the Lich's reports? Does she play that badly? One of her matches against Amaranth ended with a score of 3-1 in her favor. The only duel she lost was her Ossir against Deleb. If you can't beat Ossir, that doesn't mean no one can beat him. It's a simple truth; don't judge others by yourself!

Here we go again. Let me give you an example. Even a strong player can lose to Ossir with the right strategy! Did you see the game where Haggesh crushed Ossir?

That was an isolated incident! Perhaps the centaurs got lucky and moved before all the archers, plus the hero might have scared someone... In short, I'm ready to play this matchup with you ten times, and if you win even 2-3 times, I'll confirm the report of 10 losses... Deal?
Otherwise, it turns out that Haggesh has a maximum of a 10% chance of beating Ossir – and that's no longer a reliable indicator, but just a random occurrence that might happen right away, or might not happen even after 10 or 100 games. ;)

Deks played against a player with a rating of 4 or 5 thousand.

Well, first of all, Deks knows what mistakes to exploit in his opponents, so it's not surprising that he beat Ossir with different heroes. I, for example, also beat him... And regarding the rating of 4-5 thousand, read my previous post and add to that the fact that the Ubisoft rating is not a reliable indicator.
I'll play as Ossir in a duel against any player for rating.

Furthermore, have you read the duel reports on our website? Did you see one of the Lich's reports? Does she play that badly? One of her matches against Amaranth ended with a score of 3-1 in her favor. The only duel she lost was her Ossir against Deleb. :)

Well, you don't play terribly either – will you give me 10 games with this hero matchup? (at least report it in this thread)

If you can't beat Ossir, that doesn't mean no one can beat him. This is a simple truth, don't judge others by yourself!

:smile48: How rude.
Do you want to challenge me to a duel? ... Go ahead (if you dare), or apologize and delete the phrase.
P.S. I'll say right away that the rules of the duel are not whatever you want, but related to the topic: "show how to beat Ossir."

...as for the rating of 4-5 thousand, read my previous post and add to that the fact that the UBI rating is not an indicator.
I will play as Ossir against any player in a duel for rating.

I agree, there are examples, I don't remember the exact account names, something like Tom's_Highway, gimlimany, Arantox. All these opponents have a rating on UBI that exceeds 6000, and yet one only played as Deleb in 1.5, the second only played with two Dwarves and Nimue in 3.0, and the third plays with his own super presets. I note that they are all of foreign origin. My opinion is that if a person doesn't shy away from random matches, then his rating should not be higher than four or five thousand, with one exception - DOMOVOY, there's nothing to say here, he's a unique player.
Regarding playing against anyone for rating, there are reasons why it's not possible. Just let me know your UBI accounts so there are no inaccuracies)

The most realistic way to defeat Ossir is with Jalib, this pair is very sensitive to the skill level of the players, but even here, Ossir has a huge advantage, even in the Abyss. Next is Vitya, this pair is also very sensitive, I remember even defeating a Dexosian Ossir with Vitya, but that was in the memorable 3.0, and also in 2.1)

Just let me know your Ubi accounts so there are no misunderstandings.

My nickname on ubi.com is Alex_R1983.
ICQ: 466-212-416
I usually play after 10:00 PM Moscow time... I can practically play any day. I don't see your account yet and I don't see your ICQ in your profile – it's better to contact me via AIM beforehand... or write in this thread

My accounts are ildaryk, Agent_Smith_, moonlight_
ICQ 322-810-045
I usually play whenever I have some free time during the day or in the evening, but usually no later than 10 PM Moscow time. Feel free to contact me; I might be online sometimes).