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This tournament will feature two new additions.
1. Each registered participant submits one map. We will play on the map that receives the most votes. If two or more maps receive the same number of votes, I will choose one of them. If one map receives the most votes, we will play on that map, and in this case, I will not participate in the voting. Only the last map submitted by each tournament participant will be accepted, after registration is complete.
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2. We'll call it the "LI Rule."
Each registered participant can request a "gauntlet" before the tournament registration closes. Confirmation will be a post with the words "I request a gauntlet." If someone changes their mind during this time, they must write "I decline the gauntlet."
What does this give?
It gives the right, after the final game, to challenge the winner to a rematch once, by the player who took second place. Chivalry :D, I also corrected it in the first post.
I will immediately clarify that only the player who lost in the final can use it, and only if both players have a gauntlet. If the winner does not have a gauntlet, the loser cannot give him his, as it would be incomplete :D :D :D.
С самого начала позаботься о своем месте в жизни, чтобы не уподобиться маятнику. /Херберт. Ф./
Клан: "Смертельный Альянс" - "Mortal Alliance"
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LeSHiJ-MaX
What does it give?
So...? :confused:
What benefits does this provide? Could you please explain it in as academic terms as possible?
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How about we play ZmineZ...? Well, if not, then I'll play as Iron. It's a pity that there aren't completely random maps in the fourth game; this is just my personal opinion. Circle, Iron, Spot... there are a lot of great maps and scenarios. But is there an opportunity, and even a desire, for us to play in a purely random competition, without предварительный осмотр in editors, etc.? Or will skill and experience still shine through on any map? IMHO.
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Pashagreen
How about we play ZmineZ?
Let's not! :smile04: :smile18: :smile41:
It's a pity that there aren't completely random maps in the fourth game; this is just my personal opinion. There are a lot of great maps and scenarios, like Circul, Iron, Spot... But is there an opportunity, and even a desire, for us to play in a purely random competition, without предварительный осмотр in editors, etc.? Or will skill and experience still show themselves on any map? IMHO.
I don't know, I don't know...
Playing maps without looking at them in the editor is probably possible. But in the third game, people know what to expect based on the template. And if you don't see the map, you're just playing heads or tails. Guess or don't guess. And I'm not even talking about the scripts that have become so popular to put in maps...
In my opinion, a balanced fix is better than a random, unknown map.
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What exactly don’t you like about ZmineZ?
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Slonysh
Could you explain what this item does in as academic terms as possible?
It seems like insurance against taking second place. But you might also regret it if you come in first and have the item in your inventory.
Pashagreen
How about we play ZmineZ?
Good map. Good mapmaker. I'll support that. Bizzaro is also in that series, but it's been played many times already.

I've already suggested some maps, and specifically, Will and Reason.
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Pashagreen
What's so bad about ZmineZ?
If I'm not mistaken, it's been closed for a very long time, just like Imperial Prison. And it has so many scripts that it's a real mess.
Я в мечеть не за праведным словом пришёл.
Не стремясь приобщиться к основам пришёл.
В прошлый раз утащил я молитвенный коврик,
Он истерся до дыр, - я за новым пришёл.

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Slightly off-topic, regarding the issue of rushing... are there any rush strategies on Iron, Circle, or Spot maps? There are many maps (and have been) where rapid early-game development determines the outcome. Perhaps they could be separated into separate tournaments? Like a "Rusher of the Year" competition?
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Pashagreen
Slightly off-topic, regarding the issue of rushing... are there any maps where rushing is effective on Iron, Circle, or Spot? There are many maps (and there have been), where rapid early-game development and unit production decide everything. Maybe they could be separated into separate tournaments? Like a "Rusher of the Year" award?
There is no rushing strategy effective on these maps. Among the old online maps, the following were always considered suitable for rushing: Way of the Warrior, Death Valley, Battle of Underground, Dog Days, Desert War, sometimes If these wall could talk, Magic Forest, Fatal Controversy, Showdown.
Я в мечеть не за праведным словом пришёл.
Не стремясь приобщиться к основам пришёл.
В прошлый раз утащил я молитвенный коврик,
Он истерся до дыр, - я за новым пришёл.

© О. Хайям

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oxygen_hl
If I'm not mistaken, it's been closed for a very long time, just like Imperial Prison.
Are you confusing it with Fatal Controversy? Although they are difficult to confuse :D. Even if Fatal is closed, ZmineZ will still play with a good half of the French players. But what do we care about Tokha when he has already closed himself off.
oxygen_hl
And there are so many scripts on it that it's a real mess.
I've never considered a large number of scripts to be a negative aspect of a map.

Pashagreen
Rushing isn't advantageous on the Iron map. Meat will overwhelm the Knight, and if it's just a Barbarian, there's no chance. Perhaps on the Circus map, but Shnurov and Oxy are experts here. But on the Spot map, rushing is possible, but not with a Knight; you can rush the opponent with meat on days 12-13.
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CTPAHHuK
Aren't you confusing it with Fatal Controversy? Although it's hard to confuse them :D Unless Fatal is closed, ZmineZ will still play with you, and half of the French players will join. But what do we care about Tokha when he's already closed off to everyone.
Closed means that the passage between players is blocked. Like in Imperial Prison, where you have to fight neutrals for 50 days. You misunderstood me; I'm not talking about blocking the map on ToH. :smile27:
I've never considered a large number of scripts to be a negative aspect of a map.
I agree. The first point is more of a burden. :(
Perhaps on the circle, but here, Shnurov and Oxxxymiron are the experts.
No. The circle can't be overcome, it's been tested. You can play as a Knight, but you can't beat it with a Paladin, and even less so with a Pyromancer.
Я в мечеть не за праведным словом пришёл.
Не стремясь приобщиться к основам пришёл.
В прошлый раз утащил я молитвенный коврик,
Он истерся до дыр, - я за новым пришёл.

© О. Хайям

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It's good that there's a discussion about maps :smile20:, even if someone isn't planning to participate in the tournament. Just if someone wants to sign up, say so directly, not indirectly ;). Specifically, only LordZezuk has expressed interest so far.
С самого начала позаботься о своем месте в жизни, чтобы не уподобиться маятнику. /Херберт. Ф./
Клан: "Смертельный Альянс" - "Mortal Alliance"
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Write to me then (Ironman).
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hello everyone. I finally managed to get onto the forum. :)

Well, if it starts on December 6th, please add me to the list of participants.
Hmm... a map... lezkandra;)

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