Cheating on Heroesworld (Offenders and penalties) — General

Феликс

11/26/2008 11:32 AM UTC

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I talked to bRitvo4kA, but I still don't understand why he's being called a cheater. Is it just for making silly mistakes due to a lack of knowledge about the rules? =))) Show me the evidence!

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Loi

11/26/2008 12:12 PM UTC

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to Felix:
I couldn't find any direct accusations against bRitvo4kA for cheating, just like I couldn't find any against you...
Maybe you should play a match against him yourself, say, 5-10 games? And then post detailed reports, saves, and your assessment of the game with him here, for everyone interested to analyze...

P.S. The same offer goes to Britvochka...

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"Хвалу и клевету приемли равнодушно
И не оспаривай глупца" (с)

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Dirty_Player

11/26/2008 12:46 PM UTC

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loi

Maybe you should play a match with him yourself, say, a series of 5-10 games? And then post detailed reports, save files, and your assessment of playing against him here, for everyone to analyze.

Aha!!! Knowing that there will be detailed reports and save files, players (if they are indeed cheaters) will start using everything they can to their advantage: D
I haven't seen a more absurd suggestion in a long time...

P.S.: Or is being a cheater a state of mind? :D

Loi

11/26/2008 1:10 PM UTC

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The scariest and most intolerant former alcoholic who is now sober.
Just a phrase, no hidden meanings.

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Первое правило форума :
"Хвалу и клевету приемли равнодушно
И не оспаривай глупца" (с)

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Qwerty

11/26/2008 2:23 PM UTC

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I see the following problem.
Currently, there are essentially two types of tournaments online.
1. "Seasonal tournaments," where each player chooses who they want to play against. In this case, you can simply avoid playing against a player suspected of cheating.
2. Tournaments with a mandatory initial bracket, either through a draw or other seeding methods, resulting in a situation where you MUST play against the suspected player according to the rules. This situation can particularly arise in team competitions.
It seems to me that we need to consider and discuss the situation in point 2, that is, when a player is suspected of cheating, and people are already avoiding playing against them, but the draw (bracket, Swiss system, etc.) pairs them up. I think everyone understands that if a player has no games played, and the technical support has marked games as not played due to opponents' absences, then that's not really a game.

P.S. Someone posted some off-topic spam, and someone else didn't forget to lower my rating...

Орден Феникса – харизматический :) лидер

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invisible

11/26/2008 2:54 PM UTC

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There's a song by Beshi that's perfectly fitting. I couldn't resist sharing it with his permission :).
http://slil.ru/26371255

Я ламер и играть не умею, нах!:smile33:

In reply to Vigo

bRitvo4kA

11/26/2008 8:46 PM UTC

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loi wrote:
to Felix:
I couldn't find any direct accusations against bRitvo4kA regarding cheating, just like I couldn't find any against you...

Vigo

1. Felix is a cheater! He's quite skilled, but I haven't been able to catch him in the act yet, but I'm 99% sure!
2. Britvochka is also a cheater! He's a skilled scoundrel! I banned him on HP for this; he was "Britva."
But, unfortunately, I can't provide any concrete evidence yet. It's very difficult to catch and prove cheating in Heroes, but it's possible!
So, I apologize for the lack of evidence, but even without it, I want to warn people! So that decent players don't waste their time on these jerks!

:smile07:

Cheating, from the English "to cheat" - to deceive, swindle, cheat - is the use of specially created or modified programs or equipment in online games to gain an undeniable advantage over other players. (c) Wikipedia

I ask the forum administration to make the player Vigo accountable for his words, provide evidence, and demand at least an apology for the public insult and compensation for the moral damage caused

В дикім полі

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Loi

11/26/2008 9:13 PM UTC

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bRitvo4kA

I request that the forum administration force the player Vigo to answer for his words, provide evidence, and demand at least an apology for public insult and compensation for causing moral damage.

Oops! Or maybe it's not necessary?
Maybe Vigo got a little carried away, but the fact that out of 30 voters, not a single one vouched for you – this fact is also worth something, in my opinion.
And in private messages, many players from the Portal, where you used to play, spoke negatively about you.

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Первое правило форума :
"Хвалу и клевету приемли равнодушно
И не оспаривай глупца" (с)

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Vigo

11/26/2008 9:28 PM UTC

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Hmm... Well, let the moderators take action if they deem it necessary. And I didn't exaggerate at all! I just said what I thought. It's up to you to think about it and decide.

Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!!
Но!...
Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...

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Феликс

11/26/2008 11:13 PM UTC

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Dirty_Player

Yeah!!! Knowing that detailed reports, saves, and players (in case they are actually cheaters) will be used everywhere, they will use everything they are capable of :D
I haven't seen such a ridiculous suggestion in a long time...

P.S.: Or is being a cheater a state of mind? :D

more likely, being Jewish is a state of mind =)

bRitvo4kA

loi wrote:
to Felix:
I didn't find any direct accusations against bRitvo4kA for cheating, just as I didn't find any against you...

:smile07:

Cheating, from English "to cheat" - to deceive, cheat, swindle - is the use of specially created or modified programs or equipment in online games to gain an undeniable advantage over other players. (c) Wikipedia

I ask the forum administration to make the player Vigo answer for his words, provide evidence, and I demand at least an apology for public insult and compensation for moral damage.

+1, he has a long tongue, like Vigo has a long broom

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ewgeniy

11/26/2008 11:37 PM UTC

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The topic is turning into a flame war and is therefore CLOSED.

Клан"Homo Homini":smile19: Полезные ссылки:smile01:

В. Уэйтс©

Но поскольку я нищий,
у меня лишь есть мечты.
Я разостлал свои мечты пред вашими ногами.
Ступайте бережно, ибо вы ступаете по моим мечтам.

временно ушел с форума, переодически заглядываю. кому нужен пишите в скайп ewgeniy1985. в аське 384385000 очень редко.

Wlk777

12/26/2008 5:18 PM UTC

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By the way, I read a thread today about cheating and such. For example, I want to create an image of myself as an honest player. Let's figure out how to handle this? The most important thing is that serious players won't engage in nonsense. I can vouch for everyone I've played with: Britva, Dubrovin, Sem56, and many others... They're all normal players. Guys, why would we need cheating? It's absolutely unnecessary for us. So, forum admins, instead of closing this thread, why not leave it open for serious accusations, their refutations, and so on?

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Wicc

12/26/2008 6:28 PM UTC

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To create an image of yourself as an honest player, you should first create an image of yourself as a polite player. Don't join the numerous family of toxic players, both local and foreign. If you get hit, retaliate and forget about it. If they start acting entitled, try to accommodate them. And so on.

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Dirty_Player

12/26/2008 7:23 PM UTC

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Wlk777

Britva, Dubrovin, Sem56, and many others...

Here's Britva, the one you vouch for; he was banned on the HeroesPortal for cheating!
There was no evidence on HW, so he's still here.

The best way to prove fairness is to play in computer clubs!

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КостяN

12/26/2008 8:09 PM UTC

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It’s still interesting how they actually proved that cheating occurred on the Portal in Britvachka’s case. They’re just attacking the person, but they don’t say what exactly he did; these unsubstantiated accusations look like some kind of settling of scores – and nothing more...

Ибу ибуди - хуйдао муди - Шаг за шагом можно достигнуть цели (китайская мудрость)

Кто к нам с пером придёт, тот от пера и погибнет!:smile51: