January Holiday Tournament — Tournament history (offline)

Loi

11/26/2008 3:01 PM UTC

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I have an idea – to hold a small tournament with an interesting format during the January holidays. There is only one, but rather unpleasant, time constraint. The tournament should take place approximately from January 3rd to 10th (I have a vacation then, and I probably won't be able to play afterwards). But during these days, I am ready to play every day; I will be glad if I can find at least five or six other fans of the game who are willing to participate in such an "immersive experience." I am starting the discussion now so that there is time to move from brainstorming the tournament format to its concrete implementation. Preliminary applications can be submitted here, so as not to create unnecessary topics. To get the ball rolling, I suggest discussing the following tournament format: (criticism is needed, preferably with arguments): 1. Each match between players consists of two games. 2. The first game is played as usual, with the option of choosing castles. 3. In the second game, players switch sides and play on the same map, but with the map revealed! (It is possible to provide time between the first and second games so that players have time to study the map generated the first time.) P.S. When I was reading Bai, I found something similar in the topic: Another idea from Papik Or maybe someone has their own interesting option, Derthy?;)

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Dirty_Player

11/26/2008 3:18 PM UTC

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loi

Maybe someone else has an interesting little option, Dirty?;)

I have a very interesting little option. The idea is to hold a tournament in a "no rules" fight format! Meaning, the game without restrictions!
Move the guards at Pandora's box, take the freebies. If you want, take Isra from the start and upgrade vampires on top of that. If you want, go right past ГО and no one will say a word to you! 4 times Dimension Door - no problem!
I think there will be plenty of people wanting to have some fun! :smile10:
What is your opinion, is it worth holding something like this?

Goodwin

11/26/2008 3:19 PM UTC

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exchanging "portals" well, it's possible.
revealing the map is definitely "no".

Loi

11/26/2008 3:48 PM UTC

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I’ll try to clarify: the point is that in the first game, it tests your skills with regular random elements; in the second, it's like a fixed skill test. Also, I think it would be interesting to compare saves from the two games – in the second game, you will inevitably look at how your opponent played in the first game blindly and learn from their mastery, or something along the lines of “he smiled condescendingly…” (variations are possible). Ideally, this should encourage studying saves, which will definitely improve your skill in playing on random maps – IMHO.

exchanging "portals" well, maybe

I have already held a tournament in this format: Match -tournament "You - for me, I - for you"

The idea is to hold a tournament in the format of no-rules battles! That is, a game without restrictions!

As I said in private messages, with such rules (or rather, lack thereof), it will still be a different game, with different tactics and strategies than what we have now in the season and standard tournaments. Accordingly, the skill gained in playing standard random maps will not be significantly improved during such a tournament. But as just a fun thing to do, it's perfect, and I think many people on Hive would find it interesting.

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SEM_56

11/26/2008 4:01 PM UTC

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It would be interesting to hold such a tournament, even just out of curiosity. I would gladly chat with many players and play a few games using the LoI scheme (although I haven't played on fixed maps myself). If the tournament is held at all, I assume it will involve players from the Heroes of Might and Magic Online community, or will players from other portals also be allowed to participate?

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Loi

11/26/2008 4:13 PM UTC

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(although I haven't played with fixes myself)...

Same problem.

If the tournament is held at all, I assume that players from the Heroes of Might and Magic Online game will participate, or will players from other portals also be allowed to join???

Anyone who wants to can participate. But to post, you still need to register.

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Dirty_Player

11/26/2008 4:34 PM UTC

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loi

As I said in private, with such rules (or rather, the lack thereof), this will be a different game, with different tactics and strategy than what is currently in the season and standard tournaments. Accordingly, the skill in standard random play will not be significantly improved during such a tournament.

Skill shows itself under any rules! Even in such extreme situations, the one who knows how to play will win!!!

loi

But just for fun, it's the perfect thing, and I think many on HeroesWorld will find it interesting.

That is one of the goals! So if you decide to run your tournament, then I will run mine after yours ends! If not, then I will open mine in January.

P.S.: This is my 1000th message :smile23:

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LeBron

11/26/2008 7:46 PM UTC

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I don't know if I'll have enough time for the tournament, but I'd be up for playing a few matches in this format. We could even play with an open map from the start, like they suggested on the forum.

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Gynnar

11/26/2008 8:47 PM UTC

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Why invent something new when there's already a fantastic live tournament near the Baltic Sea, in a beautiful and picturesque location, with the participation of the strongest Heroes players from all over the CIS countries? The organizer invited players from all Heroes communities to attend...
Here's a link where everything is described in detail:

http://www.forum.heroes.by/viewtopic.php?t=705&start=0&sid=90df42cf0fa2ac291377ad9ff5af063a

Loi

11/26/2008 9:04 PM UTC

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a magnificent live tournament near the Baltic Sea

Of course, the tournament in Kingisepp is something else; who knows, maybe someone from HeroesWorld will make the trip:)
But! For example, I live beyond Lake Baikal, others have a lot of work, and so on...

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Dreamcatcher

11/27/2008 3:53 AM UTC

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Loyu – respect for the initiative :) I suggest the following. Play mirrored matches, but without fully revealing the map. That is, at the beginning of the game, the red player saves the game at the beginning of their turn. The second game starts from the same save, but the players switch sides! This adds extra tactical complexity. A partially known map, and known opponent's capabilities (which were previously your own) introduce unconventional twists to the usual randomness. The first game can continue until the last hero – the losing side benefits from prolonging the game to explore more of the map. But it is necessary to clearly define the moment when the first game ends, when it is no longer possible to move and explore the map. In my opinion, fully revealing the save is not as interesting. It is much more interesting to set new goals for exploration (or counter-exploration) in the game, and even a losing game can be used to its full potential for a rematch.

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bRitvo4kA

11/27/2008 5:59 AM UTC

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loi

1. Each match between players consists of two games.
2. The first game is played as usual, with castles allowed if desired.
3. In the second game, players switch sides and play on the same map generation, but with the map revealed!.

You can allow time between the first and second games so that players have time to study the map generated in the first game.

Good idea, Loi, I'm in favor :smile20:
P.S. I used to play a lot on fixed maps, even hotseat with a friend, and it was just as interesting as playing online. In my opinion, the conditions are fair and equal :smile12:

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Javdet

11/27/2008 7:36 AM UTC

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loi

1. Each encounter between players consists of two games.
2. The first game is as usual—only possible, castles optional.
3. In the second game, players switch sides and play on the same generation, and on the revealed map!.

I'd be happy to play, but IMHO the conditions are unequal, because in the second game, the one who has a Dragon Utopia or treasure zone closer and "tastier" is at an advantage.
It would be fair if both were on a revealed map.
As an option—after the draw, the organizer generates the map and sends it to both players

Dirty_Player

I have a very interesting little idea. The idea is to hold a tournament in a "no-rules" fight format! i.e., a game without restrictions!
Pandora's guards are shifted, take the freebies. If you want, take Isra from the start and upgrade vampires as well. If you want, walk right past ГО and no one will say a word to you! 4 Dimension Door casts—no problem!
I think there will be plenty of people who want to have some fun with this! :smile10:
What is your opinion, is it worth doing something like this?

+1
I'm in for some fun

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ewgeniy

11/27/2008 8:42 AM UTC

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1. Each match between players consists of two games.
2. The first game is played as usual, with castles allowed if desired.
3. In the second game, players switch sides and play on the same map, but with the map revealed!

Well, that's a good start! Regarding the rules, I agree with Dream:

I suggest the following: Play mirrored games, but without fully revealing the map. That is, at the beginning of the game, the red player saves the game at the beginning of their turn. The second game starts from this same save, but the opponents switch sides!

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