Cheating on Heroesworld (Offenders and penalties) — General

Dreamcatcher

11/24/2008 9:26 AM UTC

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Smoke_mk

3. "Artmania" also works well, but the main thing is not to overdo it.

There were cases when a cheater, having "conjured" a huge number of troops, didn't disband them before passing the turn, and they ended up safely in the save file :D

http://dreamcatcher.metroland.ru/

Captain

11/24/2008 9:43 AM UTC

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1. Regarding Felix... I know Paladin well (or so I think :) ) - he wouldn't just talk nonsense.. especially since he played for money and there was one slippery incident with his opponent—many said the person playing against Paladin was cheating—Paladin said back then that there were no cheats.. because he wasn't sure.

2. Regarding Britvochka... I played with him over the weekend. I was Necro - he was Barb. On the 3rd week, he comes at me with 4 purchased grey bears, 18 royal guards, a hundred goblins, wolves and ogres, and 1 angel.. even though the Dragon Utopia is right under his nose. By that time, my Grindan was level 19 (his Gurnisson was 14), I quite easily returned to the Castle via Town Portal and wiped out his folder by summoning elementals. He bought himself off with 1 bear... later I needed to buy a small one.. I asked him to stay in battle for 15 minutes, he said he'd give me 10 minutes... I come back, and he played for 2 days without me (he stayed for 7 minutes)... moreover, I warned him that I stopped writing victory reports long ago.. when a person has such scumminess instead of human relations - this is exactly the kind of place where such shit should be exposed.

And it's right - now everyone will know such "heroes" by sight.

To Smoke - why the hell are you talking about cheats? There's a reason discussions of them are forbidden on the portal.. why not clean that up?.. to save others from temptation ;)

To Dream - and you should clean up your post too.. and in the note about TE, add a list of flaws :)

Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.

Vigo

11/24/2008 9:56 AM UTC

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Sash, stop it! This is a serious topic! Stop with your teasing...

Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!!
Но!...
Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...

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LeBron

11/24/2008 10:58 AM UTC

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I spent a very long time writing about my personal assumptions based on analyzing save files and the opinions of other players... but then I suddenly remembered a funny thing:
I rarely delete save files from games – I usually just move them to a folder – and while analyzing various types of cheating, I found a game without any labels (so it wasn't clear who was playing against whom). After reviewing all the save files up to 132, I came to the firm conclusion that the red player was cheating! I started trying to remember what game it was, and I was horrified – the red player was me :D. Recalling the events of that game, I realized that I was playing late at night, trying to lose as quickly as possible, and making completely absurd moves that turned out to be the only correct ones on that map. From this, I concluded that not everything that looks like cheating actually is ;) Before accusing someone of unfair play, take a look at your own save files – don't you find anything strange?
As for the issue of fighting cheating... well, what can I say? You have to catch them in the act! That's the only way – and loudly shouting and putting up shame posts, in my opinion, is nonsense.

"Это нам идеально подходит!" [Новосибирск, 2013]
"Красавчик! Если только не читер.." [Киев, 2014]
"Это Вам не шутки - нажрался Dust в маршрутке" [Новокузнецк, 2015]
Сам ты фиш (с) :D

Dreamcatcher

11/24/2008 11:10 AM UTC

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I had an experience – I was moving my hero along the mountains, looking for a path to my opponent, thinking he was there. And I ended up right on top of a Utopia with a book of fire. The hero's path on the map was a long, bright trail in the darkness, leading directly to the Utopia. Is that cheating? ;)

Nah, write about the shortcomings of the AI in your signature ;) Even though you explained them to me, I didn't quite grasp them. For me, there are still only advantages :)

http://dreamcatcher.metroland.ru/

Qwerty

11/24/2008 2:09 PM UTC

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On this topic, the judge of the team tournament should have the final say. Because there are tournaments in which you can choose your opponent, and there are those in which you cannot.

Орден Феникса – харизматический :) лидер

Smoke_mk

11/24/2008 2:32 PM UTC

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Captain

Hey Smoke, why are you even talking about cheats? Discussions about them are prohibited on the portal for a reason... maybe you should clean up your own act first? ;)

Well, how can that be? It's a topic about cheating, but the root of the problem isn't clear to some, so I wrote this...

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bRitvo4kA

11/25/2008 12:44 PM UTC

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SEM_56

I had a really strange game with Britvochka....
Towards the end of week 3, I was creeping towards the enemy's lands, defeated the guards, and gained vision. From there, I saw that Orrin was rushing on silver pegasi, not far from the mine (the guard there hadn't been defeated). Meanwhile, Ivor dove into the underground from my side and saw the secondary mine. On the next turn, Orrin, after defeating the guard on his side, headed straight for Ivor and attacked. I paid him off, and I saw that my opponent was returning to take +1 to attack....

The question is, why didn't he do that right away???
And secondly, if there was no vision (in the mine), how did he attack Ivor right away??
And thirdly, was vision open on the opponent's side (could he see Ivor going into the mine)???

bRitvo4kA (red, castle, Orrin, Orrin) def SEM_56 (blue, rampart, Ivor, Ivor), 2SM4d(3), 215
I confirm, there is no game description, and I really wanted to read it. Because there were many unclear and ambiguous situations during the game, starting from turn 137. The opponent didn't open vision, which is very important if the opponent is moving on your territory. There are also ambiguities about capturing my heroes, and from the save files, I saw that out of 6 hives, the opponent only took 4. As reconnaissance showed, there was a swarm of dragonflies near one hive, which would have prevented the opponent from going first and slowing down the creatures.....
Therefore, I don't want to sort things out with the opponent and will just not play with him; there's already too much fuss!!!
I have stated my arguments above, thank you for your attention!!!

If the save files show that the plans to open vision were not carried out, then how did he attack like that???

1. Towards the end of week 3, all my territory had been cleared; I either had to attack the opponent or go down into the underground to capture a town to exchange resources more cheaply at the markets. It was more important for me to capture the secondary mine, and on the way there, I ran into Ivor. I didn't go for +1 attack to have time to capture the secondary mine and start rushing. After defeating Ivor and seeing that the road to the secondary mine was clear, I decided to return to the stable near the entrance to the mine, and with another hero, capture the dungeon.
2. It was near the aforementioned vision point in the center of the map that I first saw Ivor. What was the point of opening it and risking losing my hero.
3. The last of the hives revealed a book of earth for the efreets. And since Orrin was an earth expert and had enough mana, I considered the book a priority. After the book, I saw a bow, and then a town portal to the castle to increase the turn by 1 day.

I ask players like Pustolov Vigo and Sir Certain not to be rude or offensive, but to behave in a cultured manner.
Regarding Captain, he really asked me to wait 15 minutes in the battle, to which I immediately replied no. After a second request, I agreed to ten and passed the turn after 8. Then he comes and demands auto-loading, which greatly annoyed me, as the advantage was already on the opponent's side....

In this thread, people are confusing cheating, breaking the rules, and simply violating human relationships. For example, I haven't heard of the existence of cheats for Heroes 3. If I'm wrong, then tell me what the cheat is, what its capabilities are, and where to download it?

В дикім полі

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КостяN

11/25/2008 2:15 PM UTC

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bRitvo4kA

Tell me, what does this cheat do, what are its capabilities, and where can I download it?

The author is on fire! Soon, the topic will devolve into this, and cheaters, who might not even exist, will appear!

Ибу ибуди - хуйдао муди - Шаг за шагом можно достигнуть цели (китайская мудрость)

Кто к нам с пером придёт, тот от пера и погибнет!:smile51:

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Wistrit

11/25/2008 2:19 PM UTC

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How could I not have thought of Arcomage? ... damn... so, who wants a duel now? :)

They started arguing for no reason. Great...

Tomorrow holds no promises
Except the ones we've made

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Феликс

11/25/2008 11:10 PM UTC

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Vigo

Guys, this is a cool topic!
Here you can exchange opinions and suspicions, facts and accusations, and maybe someone will need it and be more careful. As they say, forewarned is forearmed! :)
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and here's a screenshot from ICQ, speletniki dot... =)
Vigo ‎(23.11.2008 15:44):
hello, want to play a serious game tonight?
iGhost ‎(23.11.2008 15:45):
I've had enough of one game with you
iGhost ‎(23.11.2008 15:45):
hello
Vigo ‎(23.11.2008 15:45):
I don't understand
iGhost ‎(23.11.2008 15:45):
you made me think that I'm not playing fairly =(
iGhost ‎(23.11.2008 15:45):
I honestly don't want to play with you, sorry
Vigo ‎(23.11.2008 15:46):
I didn't confuse you with anything! I just expressed my opinion and impression
Vigo ‎(23.11.2008 15:46):
okay, I understand you

oh, and teach me how to use ArtMoney =) I'm honestly a newbie with computers, all the talk about cheating directed at me is like a compliment to me =)))

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Vigo

11/26/2008 6:42 AM UTC

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Felix

VigoGuys, this is a cool topic!
Here you can exchange opinions and suspicions, facts and accusations, and maybe someone will need it and be cautious. As they say, forewarned is forearmed! :)
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and here's a screenshot from ICQ, speletniki dot... =)
Vigo ‎(23.11.2008 15:44):
hey, want to play a serious game tonight?
iGhost ‎(23.11.2008 15:45):
I've had enough of one game with you
iGhost ‎(23.11.2008 15:45):
hello
Vigo ‎(23.11.2008 15:45):
I don't understand
iGhost ‎(23.11.2008 15:45):
you made me think I'm not playing fairly =(
iGhost ‎(23.11.2008 15:45):
I honestly don't want to play with you, sorry
Vigo ‎(23.11.2008 15:46):
I didn't say anything to you! I just expressed my opinion and impression
Vigo ‎(23.11.2008 15:46):
okay, I understand you

:smile12: :D

Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!!
Но!...
Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...

ewgeniy

11/26/2008 9:10 AM UTC

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Let's not turn this into a mess – if you want to talk about cheating, go ahead, but that doesn't mean you should be pointing fingers at people you're not sure about.
And I won't allow you to insult each other (even if it's not that bad yet) – I don't need any flame wars here.

Клан"Homo Homini":smile19: Полезные ссылки:smile01:

В. Уэйтс©

Но поскольку я нищий,
у меня лишь есть мечты.
Я разостлал свои мечты пред вашими ногами.
Ступайте бережно, ибо вы ступаете по моим мечтам.

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Captain

11/26/2008 10:50 AM UTC

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Here's what just popped up:

iGhost (12:22:30 26/11/2008)
Hey, want to play?
Captain (12:22:40 26/11/2008)
Felix?
Captain (12:23:07 26/11/2008)
What's your nickname on the portals?
iGhost (12:23:22 26/11/2008)
ighost

Is this cheating? It's just a regular scam.

That's why this topic exists – to let everyone know that if Felix (iGhost) contacts you, he might try to scam you.

Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.

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Феликс

11/26/2008 11:30 AM UTC

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Captain

Just now, I received this message:

Is this not cheating? It's just a regular scam.

That's why this topic highlights that if Felix (iGhost) messages you, everyone should know that he might scam you.

Haha... I haven't played with you... I don't know if you're an honest player or a cheater =) but you're just as slippery and gossipy as ViGO! =) I'm laughing in your face =)

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