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Top and many other leading Heroes players from Bay, along with TE, successfully play (played) SoD.
But if the Heroes players from Bay absolutely refuse to switch to SoD, a compromise can be reached: on our side, there will be Heroes players who play on TE (TE-lite) - they can play against those Bay users who will never change TE. Although I am sure many Bay users would enjoy remembering SoD.
As for Nekr and Flax, I suggest banning them to avoid arguing about restrictions.
Don't worry too much in advance; it seems like everything is clear regarding the version – we're playing on SoD, and if there's a desire, we can also play on TE. But SoD is the main version for this tournament. And Vika, don't be alarmed; he's like a passionate revolutionary, shouting "Down with Tsarism (meaning SoD), let there be a new republic where the spirit of new realities rules..." or something like that. In general, he simply loves and appreciates TE, which is why he's ready to promote it with both sword and fire – that's how it always is with passionate revolutionaries; they spare no one!
I don't understand those who are against TE.... If you compare heroes to cars, then SoD is something from the domestic auto industry, while TE is like a foreign car—once you've driven it, you no longer want to get into a "kopeyka"! As for TE-lite, that's more like a Lada Kalina :D
I don't understand those who are against ToD (The Shadow of Death)... If you compare Heroes to cars, then SoD is something from the domestic auto industry, while ToD is like a foreign car; once you've driven it, you won't want to go back to a "penny" car! As for ToD-Lite, it's more like a Lada Kalina :D
P.S. Vic, don't be offended ;)
The feeling of a car's size and braking distance on specific tires comes after a thorough test drive. Therefore, you should only play on what you're familiar with. Familiar to yourself, not to your opponent. When we start crushing them completely, then we can start giving out advantages.
This is insane. I can't wrap my head around the claims that one needs to "get used to" the interface. If necessary, transfer troops with thousands of clicks as usual—who's stopping you? But no, you have to force the opponent to do it too, just so they suffer, you jerk. That's one thing.
And second—it was exactly you who first said something like "it's unknown who is better since we haven't competed in a match yet." And now phrases are popping up like "it's too early to give them a head start" and "let's beat them on our own turf and by our rules." I understand, of course, that most of the bay team doesn't care what rules they fight by, but what about you? First you throw down the challenge, and then you bend the rules 100% to suit yourself. Everything is already set up for you—TE has been stripped down to the level of SoD with magical buttons.
Are you really so insecure that you're only willing to play by your own rules?
Our team certainly wants to win. But I am sure that for most bay players, it is very important that other players actually try TE. Even in a simplified version. If we win, we will once again confirm that TE appeals specifically to strong players. If you try it yourselves and like it—that's even better.
Hello everyone! Glad to see old friends here ;) Well Eric, you've really painted a picture of me... oh well. Regarding the version - lately I've even been playing SoD more than TE. I must be nostalgic, so in a match I'll play on whichever version suits the opponent, and no ultimatums. I'm sure someone like DC_Vasya would prefer SoD. As for fast transfer - I agree it's convenient. But I remember back in the Chaos League there were discussions that in Heroes all skills are useful - including fast-clicking ))) Obviously, it's more pleasant to play Heroes from home, relaxed, not thinking much about time - just clicking a button, army transferred, etc., munching on chips and sipping beer. But I repeat, fast-clicking is also a skill that needs to be developed ;)
Damn. I can't wrap my head around the claims that one needs to get used to the interface. If necessary, transfer troops with thousands of clicks as usual—who's stopping you? But no, you have to force the opponent to do it too, let them suffer, the jerk. That's one.
And two—it was exactly from you that it first sounded like "it's unknown who is cooler since we haven't competed in a match yet." And now phrases like "too early to give a handicap" and "let's beat them on our field and by our rules" are being heard. I understand, of course, that most of the bay team doesn't care which rules they fight by, but what about you? First you throw down the challenge, and then you bend the rules 100% to your own liking. Everything is already set up for you—the TE has been trimmed down to the level of SoD with magic buttons.
Are you really so insecure that you're only willing to play by your own rules?
Our team, of course, wants to win. But I am sure that for most bay players, it is very important specifically that other players try TE. Even in a simplified version. If we win, we will once again confirm that TE is liked specifically by strong players. If you try it yourselves and like it—that's twice as good.
You don't change horses midstream. And you don't take new weapons in your hands right before a battle. And we are ready to fight. And a sufficient number of people play by the rules that you call "ours."
Well, I'm not sure if this is still relevant. However, I'll share my opinion (while also being a little envious of our strongest players :o). In my opinion, the team should include the following individuals: 1) Mizrael 2) Uran 3) Dudge 4) Alex R 5) Scorp 6) Invisible 7) Nagan (Definitely ;) ) 8) Dubrovin 9) Loy 10) Decontaminator or Pit
I hope our team shows its best side! I'll be their most enthusiastic fan :)
Если тебе не везёт в жизни, - играй в какую-нибудь другую игру:rolleyes: Лидер клана "Из многих единое" Приключения – это сплошные неприятности, только про них почему-то потом интересно вспоминать...
Well, I'm not sure if this is still relevant, but I'll share my opinion. In my opinion, the team should include the following players: 1) Mizrael 2) Uran 3) Dudge 4) Alex R 5) Scorp 6) Invisible 7) Nagan (Definitely ;) ) 8) Dubrovin 9) Loy 10) Decontaminator or Pit
I hope our team shows its best! I'll be their biggest fan :)
I agree. By the way, Vigo might be able to play in our team during the match against Bay. Our friends on the portal are currently facing some difficult situations, and it's possible that another very strong player will be able to play for our team against Bay. P.S. By the way, I think everyone already understands who could be the "bad cop."
I hope our team will show itself from the best side! I'll be the most passionate fan
Tanya, such support is very needed, ;) especially for me and Mizrael! Thank you.
2 Stinger.
Hello everyone! Glad to see old friends here Well, Eric, you really painted a picture of me, of course... oh well. Regarding the version - lately I've been playing even more SoD than TE. I guess I missed it, so in the match I'll play on the version that suits the opponent and no ultimatums. I'm sure that, for instance, DC_Vasya will prefer SoD. As for fast play - I agree it's convenient. But, as I recall, back on the Chaos League there were talks that in Heroes all skills are good - including fast click )))
Hello, Tyoma, long time no see. :D I wrote what I saw with my own eyes. For example, Paladin often visits us, plays in tournaments, and through his gameplay has earned great respect not only for himself but for Bai as a whole. Eh, if only you would drop by sometime, participate in a tournament, play with our leading players - it would be great PR for Heroes, and it would be easier to overcome the Schism in Heroes.
2 Old Man.
And two is the fact that it was you who first said something like "it's unknown who's better, since we haven't competed in a match yet." And now phrases like "it's too early to give a head start" and "let's beat them on our field and by our rules" are being said. I understand that most of the Bai team don't care what rules they fight by, but what about you? First you issue a challenge, and then you tailor the rules 100% to your advantage.
As a tournament organizer speaking to a tournament organizer. :smile21: Complete nonsense. We never said "it's unknown who's better, since we haven't competed in a match yet" - re-read this topic from the beginning. What we said about Bai was: "...in general, it's hard to play against them. But still there are chances." "... The opponent is noticeably stronger than us - that means we need to play where we have at least some chances."
That's hardly what you're writing about. We didn't issue a challenge. We took advantage of the friction between Bai and Portal to participate in a match - yes, but both sides invited us, we didn't impose ourselves. :smile49: We didn't tailor the rules to our advantage; we agreed with Roland and Neo's proposal that Portal's rules would be used, not World's. Beating someone, quarreling - that's not our style. There are cultured people on our forum, we avoid scandals as much as possible. Especially since many team members know each other in real life. Uran and Dudge know fellow St. Petersburg players, Scorp and Mizrael know Muscovites, and I myself know many players from the Bai team.
Hello, Tema, haven't seen you in a while. :D I've described what I saw with my own eyes. For example, Paladin often visits us, plays in tournaments, and has earned great respect not only for himself through his gameplay, but also for Bay in general. Eh, if you'd drop by to visit us sometime, take part in a tournament, play against our leading players - that'd be great PR for Heroes, and it'd also be easier to overcome the Schism in Heroes.
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Just ping me on ICQ if anything. Truth is, I don't have a lot of time; I can't always keep up with tournaments on Bay, but if anything, I'm always happy to play in some interesting tournament organized by you :)
No one is putting you in someone else's place ... we are openly discussing all the nuances here - "getting used to the interface" is relevant to us and we have emphasized that (to avoid stupid mistakes) ... if you think someone here is campaigning for HeroesWorld or out of spite for Bai, you are mistaken. CmapuK
And two - it was you who first said, "it's unknown who's better, since we haven't competed in a match yet." And now we hear phrases like "it's too early to give a handicap" and "let's beat them on our home turf and by our rules."
There's no need to always focus on what someone said or wrote ... first and foremost, every statement has an author - who is responsible for themselves - with the exception being posts and statements from people chosen to be responsible (in this case, that's Nagan-4 for us). CmapuK
I understand that most of Bai's team doesn't care what rules to play by, but what about you? First you issue a challenge, and then you tailor the rules 100% to suit yourselves.
It's damn funny to hear accusations that we are tailoring the rules 100% to suit ourselves ... usually, you've been caught doing that, for example, in the last joint tournament - out of 3 games, 2 were purely by your rules and one by ours (though again, by your old rules nevertheless), and this despite multiple statements from you that you're ready to play by any rules and prove to anyone what Bai is all about, etc., etc. If you don't care - then why talk trash ... ??? CmapuK
Are you really so unsure of yourselves that you're only willing to play by your own rules?
I'll redirect that question to you ... Speaking for myself, if the game is not on SoD, then it's somehow daunting to even participate. ... Imagine if I challenge you or someone from your team to a duel on Heroes 5 online right now? Would you play? - that would be 100% by my rules! :) CmapuK
Our team certainly wants to win. But, I'm sure, for most of Bai's players, the important thing is that other players try TE. Even in a simplified version. If we win, we'll once again confirm that TE appeals specifically to strong players.
Personally, I want to actually play, and I don't think the result of such a tournament will greatly affect players' attitudes toward either of the versions being discussed here.
P.S. I understand that this kind of discussion is not constructive - but to avoid a repeat of the situation from the last tournament, I've clearly stated my position.
As a tournament organizer speaking to a tournament organizer. :smile21: Complete nonsense. We never said "it's unknown who's better since we haven't competed in a match yet" — reread this topic from the start. What we did say about Bay were phrases like: "...in general, it's hard to play against them. But still, there are chances." "... The opponent is noticeably stronger than us — so we need to play where there are some chances."
Hehe :) There was a discussion. There was a statement from a player. Yes, a portal player. Saying, let's find out. Initially, the team was mixed, but then HeroesWorld decided to field a separate one. So that means — "we're also ready to participate in the match. But only according to our rules"? Alex_R
No one is putting you in someone else's place ... we are openly discussing all the nuances here — "getting used to the interface" is relevant to us and we emphasized that (to avoid silly mistakes) ... if it seems that someone here is campaigning in favor of HeroesWorld or against Bay, you are mistaken.
There's no need to always focus on the fact that someone said or wrote something ... first and foremost, every statement has an author — who is responsible for themselves — the exception is posts and statements from those chosen as representatives (in this case, Nagan-4 for us)
It's ridiculous to hear accusations that we're 100% tailoring the rules to suit ourselves ... usually, you're the ones guilty of that, for example, in the last joint tournament — out of 3 games, 2 were strictly according to your rules and one according to ours (although again, according to your old rules) and this despite repeated statements that you're ready to play by any rules and prove to anyone what Bay is, etc., etc. If you don't care — then why bother chatting ... ???
I'm redirecting this question to you ... Speaking for myself, if the game isn't on SoD — then I'm not eager to participate either. ... Imagine I challenge you or someone from your team to a duel in Heroes 5 online right now? Would you play? — and that would be 100% according to my rules! :)
Personally, I really want to play and don't think the result of such a tournament will greatly affect players' attitudes toward one of the versions being discussed here.
P.S. I understand that this kind of discussion is unconstructive — but to avoid repeating the situation from the last tournament, I've clearly stated my position.
When have we ever had a joint tournament? :) I don't recall a match between HeroesWorld and Bay.. :) The last thing I remember is a match with foreigners and before that with Poles. Please clarify the "last tournament"
And in general, I don't recall a single!!! match on TE. How can you claim that we're pushing to play by our rules? That's one thing.
Secondly, I'm not "chatting for nothing." The reasons why I personally want, and assume it's important for many, to play on at least TE-lite — I stated in my post. Read carefully
"Out of spite for Bay" — I don't think so and didn't claim it.
And nevertheless. As I already said — the team roster is ready to play on any version. Only some individual :) personalities :))) are writing to you, get it. Including me. The reasons — I've written them, so there shouldn't be any questions, as I see it.
PS: To paraphrase.. "I personally really want to play" — well, if you just want to, then why do you have questions and demands about the rules? Then just play. I could nitpick words and throw out slogans, but I prefer to discuss. I've provided my arguments. It's a shame my first post on HeroesWorld turned out so harsh. Your portal is developing very dynamically, and I'm all for it. Also, Invisible impressed me with his posts on Bay :)
When did we have a joint tournament? :) I don't remember a match between ХВ and баем.. :) The last thing I remember is a match against foreigners and before that against Poles. Please clarify about the "previous tournament".
And I don't remember a single match on ТЕ. How can you claim that we can play by our own rules? That's one thing.
Tolyanich, you died for the first time back then :) I gave you a link in ICQ so that you could join the discussion and use "heavy artillery," so to speak, but you skipped it.
There was a match, we played a couple of games, Cobra-Uran, me-VBN, and a few others. After players from ХВ failed to show up for the agreed-upon games a couple of times, I gave up, and many others did too. That's how that tournament died. I hope this one has a different fate. IMHO: play on SoD, and there will be no arguments. At the beginning of the match, it was said that the tournament would be ENTIRELY according to the rules of the portal; it's strange that ultimatums started to be voiced here, and not from the participants of the match.
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