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Offline Майор Вихрь
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I don't know about you, but personally, as a warrior hero, I really like Helmar. Besides Light, he doesn't really need any other magical perks... or rather, he doesn't need them. The build suggested by Shogun suits him perfectly. However, Leadership can be replaced with Luck, Education, or Logistics, depending on the situation. In the first turn, the hero casts Haste/Stone Skin, and in a pinch, Divine Strength, and automatically, most of the stacks will be affected by a powerful attack at the Skilled level. This is a good boost to the army, especially against such a dangerous enemy as an Orc. Another advantage of Helmar is the guaranteed Light skill (after all, it doesn't always drop) and some help with the powerful attack at the start. Of course, he's not Ingvar, Ibba, or Karl, but nevertheless, he's still a great Dwarf. In general, you can not worry about it and take Ingvar initially, and if the guild gives you Helmar, then give him the Dwarves and make him the main hero.
O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.

G.K. Chesterton: English Hymnal
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Finally, two married men found some free time that coincided.
We played three games.
In the first game, we failed to execute the planned build order (we tried all sorts of nonsense). I lost.
In the second game, Helmar dropped in the tavern :D. I won (the Berserker rune is awesome).
It took three tries, but we finally managed to execute the planned build order perfectly – a victory with no real options for the Orc.
Порою люди не со зла
Творят настолько черные дела,
Что до таких блистательных идей
Не вдруг дойдет и записной Злодей

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Could you tell me about the Orc faction?
:smile02:Клан "Lost Heroes" - Заместитель лидера:smile02:
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What time were the battles? Are the replays saved? It would be interesting to watch :) Replays are everything :)

But honestly, I'm not particularly surprised. A Dwarf with the right build can do amazing things. Tons of Dwarf meat is even hard for Orcs to chew, and runes usually get stuck in their throats :)

Although, Dwarves can be good even with a non-standard build, IMHO. I remember how one of my Helmars with light magic, attack, and logistics + surprise attack was a beast :) Nothing purely Dwarven was upgraded (attack and light magic still take a backseat compared to defense and chaos, but they remain a very good choice for a Dwarf, sometimes even more advantageous).
O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.

G.K. Chesterton: English Hymnal
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_Prizrak_;176260
Can you tell me about the Orc's stats?


I will definitely ask in the evening and let you know tomorrow.

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2 Shogun

What time were the battles? Are the replays saved? It would be interesting to watch :) A replay is everything! :)

But in general, I'm not particularly surprised. A Dwarf with the right build can do amazing things. Tons of Dwarf meat is even difficult for Orcs to chew through, and runes usually get stuck in their throats :)

Although, Dwarves can be good even with a non-standard build, IMHO. I remember how my Helmar once wreaked havoc with light magic, attack, and logistics + surprise attack :) Nothing purely Dwarven was upgraded (attack and light magic still take a backseat compared to defense and chaos, but they remain a very good choice for a Dwarf, sometimes even more beneficial).

The battles took place twice in the 5th week and once in the 4th week.

We didn't make replays, but there are saves before the battles, so we can organize them.
Порою люди не со зла
Творят настолько черные дела,
Что до таких блистательных идей
Не вдруг дойдет и записной Злодей

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_Prizrak_;176260
Could you tell me about the Orc build?

I'll post the Orc build.

Skilled Blood Fury - Memory of Our Blood + Reinforcements
Skilled Attack - Ranged Attack + Fire Arrows
Skilled Mechanics - Ballista + Rapid-Fire Ballista
Skilled Leadership - Rally Troops - Battle Frenzy
Skilled Logistics
Порою люди не со зла
Творят настолько черные дела,
Что до таких блистательных идей
Не вдруг дойдет и записной Злодей

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Conclusion: with the right build, Dwarves can easily defeat Orcs, right?
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The quality here is irrelevant. The player's skill level plays a much bigger role.
:smile02:Клан "Lost Heroes" - Заместитель лидера:smile02:
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Here's a question about character development. Is it worthwhile for Dwarves to learn machine control skills? I've upgraded skillful machine control, ballista, the skill that grants rapid-fire ballista, rune machines that increase initiative, and fire arrows, which pierce unit defense. As a result, I created a powerful unit that can kill at least 50 units at a time. Is there anything else I can upgrade instead of these skills, considering I've already spent more than 5 skill points on them?
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Of course, the ballista isn't as powerful as those of demons or barbarians, but the "Rune Machines" skill somewhat compensates for the weak ballistas of the Dwarves. As for other development options for the Dwarves, there are many. It's a good idea to primarily develop rune magic.
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Of course, the ballista isn't as powerful as those of demons or barbarians, but the "Runic Machines" skill somewhat compensates for the weak ballistas of the dwarves.
As for me, I absolutely don't like the dwarves' "Runic Machines" skill.
But there are many other development options for the dwarves. It's not bad to focus on developing runic magic first.
Yes, indeed, it's better to focus on developing runic magic first.
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I haven't played much with the Dwarves, but I have an idea. What if you take Erling with spellcasting, level up his Chaos magic, learn Armageddon along with Pyrokinesis, and use Jarls and Fire Priests + dragons, and then bombard them with Armageddons. If you also take Battle to the Last and learn the resurrection rune. Of course, it's all just a fantasy, but the picture in my head is terrifying.
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I haven't played much with the Dwarves, but I have an idea. What if you take Erling with spellcasting, level up his Chaos magic, somehow learn Armageddon along with Pyrokinesis, take Jarls and Fire Priests + dragons, and bombard them with Armageddons. If you also take Battle to the Last and learn the resurrection rune. Of course, all of this is just a fantasy, but the picture in my head is terrifying.
And if you add a lucky Sorcerer and Secrets of Light and Education to this picture, it's even scarier!
Вступай вКлан "Вампиры" и пополни его ряды !
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You can try it out, but there should be an element of luck involved.
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I have a few questions: 1. Which skills should I choose when playing against Necromancers? 2. Which is the strongest hero for the Fortress faction? 3. How can I kill 20 Phoenixes in the beginning of the second month?
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