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OFFLINE Tournament "Knights of Honor"




I've been looking at various online resources for offline tournaments... IMHO, many find them inaccessible due to their complex and hard-to-execute rules, deadlines, and the difficulty of organizing and control... All these rules are necessary to avoid unfairness... I want to propose creating a tournament where fairness is established not by tedious rules, seconds, and judges, but by the Honor and Valor of the players themselves! As they say, We gentlemen take each other's word for it. :) In our case, something else will serve as the "word," but without any saves, game chronologies, or arena creation. Of course, not everyone will be able to play this way—most likely only proven forum members. The most important things in such a tournament are honesty and reliability. There will be no prize, of course, so there will be no incentive to behave dishonestly. It's like a game between two friends who are neighbors:
- Look how many points I scored on this map!
- That's nothing... Look how many I have!
- Wow! Well then, I'll beat the record!

As for the reward—that's up to the administration... Make suggestions on how to arrange it! Here is mine:

A list of players is compiled (only the most honest and fair!), the organizer selects maps, posts them one by one, players complete them and send a screenshot of the results showing the map name, player nick (must match the forum nick, and an identification mark issued by the organizer can be added), and points. Places will be awarded based on points. The system could be like this—for example, 8 players play a map, the 4 best results are chosen, those 4 players play the next map, 2 are chosen, and so on. Use of cheats, programs, and non-personal walkthroughs is prohibited. All this, of course, depends on your conscientiousness! I think using game bugs can be allowed, but then we'll need to agree on the game version—choice of SoD3.2, WoG, TE. Or we could ignore the version, since final points depend on the map and player experience! The point calculation formula shall be known to all: (200-(Days+10)/(N+5)+25+25)*difficulity :
where Days is the number of days, N is the number of towns on the map, difficulity is the difficulty level (easy=0.8, normal=1, hard=1.2 (seemingly), expert=1.6, impossible=2), first +25 points—if all enemies were killed, second +25 points—if the grail was dug up
Maximum 500 points. Something like that.

Waiting for your suggestions! Be honest!

Participant list:
Varg-Nar
Firelord
Qwerty
VDV_forever
fanat
Alex_soldier
Ta Kotoraya...
AlexeyPank
Supreme
UTER

The list continues to form, submit your applications.
Regulations of the first Tournament of Honor.
1. The tournament is conducted in three stages. The duration of each stage is 40 days. After this period, saves will not be accepted for consideration. There will be no exceptions!

2. Each stage involves three task-saves. Thus, the total number of tasks is nine, one for each race. The goal is to score the highest number of points while being guided by the SPIRIT, IDEOLOGY, and Rules of the save walkthrough.

3. Competitive events are held on maps of size M and L, with dungeons (M, L) and without them (L). Thus, 3 map size options are possible: M with dungeon, L without dungeon, L with dungeon. Computer opponents play in a union ("alliance"), their number ranging from 3 to 4 depending on the map's characteristics. The final decision regarding the number of opponents, map sizes, as well as terrain features (specifically water areas, mountains, teleports) is made by the tournament Organizers.

4. At the end of each stage, the participant sends winning saves and a screenshot of the "hall of fame." The winning save is made before the final battle. Winning saves should be named as follows: task number player nick points. For example: 1 vbs 500. In the screenshot name, put scr followed by the same as in the save name. The map should be completed under the nick registered in the tournament. Address for winning saves: TKoH@bk.ru

5. A player is entitled to send as many winning saves as they managed to complete. Thus, the number of sent saves can be from 1 to 3.

6. It is MANDATORY to save the message sent with the saves until the results are tallied. This is so that in case of email failure, the player can prove they sent the saves BEFORE the deadline.

7. Within a week after the end of each stage, results for each save are tallied.

8. After the third and final stage, general results are tallied. The results of all the player's winning saves are taken into account. Results are tallied by summing the points obtained during the walkthrough of each save. The tournament winner receives the corresponding title.

9. In case two or more participants score the same number of points, the following additional indicators apply:
1) number of days;
2) main hero's experience;
3) sum of main hero's primary skills without artifacts;
4) sum of primary skills with artifacts.

10. In case one or more players score the same number of points in the general standings, the following indicators apply:
1) "countdown" - arithmetic mean between a system fixing first and last places;
2) total number of days to complete all saves.

11. In case of doubts about the honesty of the walkthrough, the player is OBLIGED to provide a detailed report. Arguments such as "every squad had morale every turn," "all computer players entered Utopia one by one and died there," etc., will not be considered. If a player cannot provide a satisfactory report on the walkthrough, their save will be annulled. In case dishonest play is proven, the player will be excluded from the tournament without the right to participate in Tournaments of Honor for one year. In case of PROVEN use of cheat codes or other known dishonest methods in a final walkthrough, the tournament organizers will submit an ADMIN request to revoke the player's access to the site ("ban").

12. Tournament Organizers reserve the right to disqualify any participant from the tournament. They are not obliged to explain the reasons for such a step or prove that the walkthrough does not match the SPIRIT of the tournament.

Rules of the save walkthrough.
1. When completing a save, one should be guided by the SPIRIT and IDEOLOGY of the tournament and be honest.
2. Save hacking, use of third-party programs ("hero diggers" etc.), as well as the use of cheat codes is strictly prohibited.
3. Prohibited:
3.1. Dishonest play;
3.2. Use of s/l method (specifically "digging out a hero," forcing weekly/monthly growth, etc.);
3.3. Use of any cheat codes regardless of the walkthrough stage, including "map exploration";
3.4. Loading an autosave, specifically "grinding" a result through constant re-plays of each Gameplay.
4. Allowed:
4.1. Replaying the game twice FROM THE VERY beginning in case of losing the map. However, it is strictly prohibited to use saves from previous walkthroughs during the repeat attempt;
4.2. Replaying the map once from the very beginning without explaining reasons. However, it is strictly prohibited to use saves from previous walkthroughs during the repeat attempt.
5. The game is played as if against a live opponent, without constant saves and reloads.
6. I emphasize again specifically: LOADING AN AUTOSAVE, SAVING THE GAME BEFORE A BATTLE, LOADING ANY SAVE OTHER THAN THE STARTING ONE IS UNACCEPTABLE!, as it contradicts the SPIRIT of the Tournament. Only loading a save from a deferred game in case of interruption is allowed. Naturally, verifying this point is impossible, but the presence of Dessa, Crag Hack, Tazar, Solmyr, Cili among heroes and constant growth weeks, as well as taking griffin conservatories without losses, may lead to exclusion from the tournament.
7. In case of violation of the Rules, the player is guaranteed exclusion from the tournament and other "joys of life."

May Honor and Dignity be with you! Glorious Victories!:)


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Deadline for sending winning saves - October 01, 2006, 22:05.
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I'm flattered by the invitation. Thank you for trusting me and inviting me. It seems I don't have the platinum edition, though :( I'll take a look, but I think I just have WOG 3.5. Is there a patch I can download somewhere? I don't want to buy another disc... Maybe the map will work on my version, or is there a patch available? I'd really like to participate... I hope someone can advise me on what I can do.
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Стань лучше и сам пойми, кто ты, прежде чем встретишь нового человека и будешь надеятся, что он тебя поймет. (с)

Элистион - 3-е место в Расовом Вопросе!
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Sign me up for the tournament; I guarantee fair play. I also only have WOG 3.5; will that work?
"Если свет который во мне есть тьма, то какова тогда тьма?"

Ушел в Аллоды Онлайн!:)
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I confirm that during the recent tournament for the second installment of Heroes of Might and Magic, the participant Alex-Soldier played fairly, without using cheats or exploits. Qwerty, as a judge in the recent tournament for the second installment of Heroes of Might and Magic.
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Regarding WOG 3.5 – the most important thing is that it’s not higher than 3.55! The Platinum version of SoD is not required, but a version higher than 3.2 is mandatory. In general, regarding versions: SoD 3.2 and Platinum, WoG any version up to 3.55.
В крови Огонь, а не вода...
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And when is the tournament? As I understand it, we're playing for points, so it would be very interesting to participate.
"Если свет который во мне есть тьма, то какова тогда тьма?"

Ушел в Аллоды Онлайн!:)
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Message from vbs
I would gladly participate)
I have a few questions)
When does it start and when does it end?
How will we receive the starting save file?
Will it be possible to improve the paths?
Will it be possible to post our results during the tournament, i.e., will there be a dynamic leaderboard?)
P.S. In my opinion, it's better to play on one version of the game, but not tie it to the publisher, i.e., for example, SoD 3.2 or TE; I don't remember which is the latest)

Regarding when the tournament starts, I can only say that we are currently recruiting participants (as you have already understood). And I assure you that everyone will be informed when the time comes.

A dynamic leaderboard with results is not planned. Everything will become known at the very end of the tournament after the calculations...
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I have a few more questions.
How do we play? Like in online games usually? That is:
1) without scouting;
2) without "digging up heroes";
3) without using the s/l method?
So, do we play like that? Or some other way?

PS. SoD is definitely optimal, as it includes "platinum" and many other things.

About how to play. Download the tournament maps from the forum (they will be posted when the time comes in this thread). Load the game and play, without using any external programs, leaving only you and your "honor" with the game.
Делай вещи, дела-делай вещи и не залипай!8)
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Where is the list of participants? Some have already submitted their applications, and I, for example, have no idea if you will accept me or not, but I really want to participate. Moreover, there were no complaints about me in the previous tournament for Heroes of Might and Magic V, so I hope that I will still be able to participate.
"Если свет который во мне есть тьма, то какова тогда тьма?"

Ушел в Аллоды Онлайн!:)
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Firelord
Regarding WOG 3.5 – the most important thing is that it’s not higher than 3.55! The Platinum version of SoD is not required, but a version higher than 3.2 is. In general, regarding versions: SoD 3.2 and Platinum, WoG any version up to 3.55.
Very glad! Then I’m with you! May luck be with everyone! May everyone play in such a way that they can accept the gold of victory without any regrets! Are you ready for battle, gentlemen?!
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Стань лучше и сам пойми, кто ты, прежде чем встретишь нового человека и будешь надеятся, что он тебя поймет. (с)

Элистион - 3-е место в Расовом Вопросе!
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fanat, what exact version of WoG do you have?
maNiT, no сторонних patches, mods, or programs!!! The versions have already been agreed upon!
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fanat, what exact version of WoG do you have?
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I think it's 3.5 WOG, but definitely not higher than 3.55.
"Если свет который во мне есть тьма, то какова тогда тьма?"

Ушел в Аллоды Онлайн!:)
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I would like experts to explain the difference when playing on the "Platinum" version and Heroes of Might and Magic III 5.5.
I wouldn't want to end up in an unfair situation...
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Firelord
Don't bother with time limits! It's 100% better to play for points. Varg-Nar said it right – play for your own enjoyment. And you can still complete the map. If you want to play against the clock, here's how: reach a certain level as quickly as possible. My suggestion: SoD 3.2 (you probably won't find anything else these days), WoG (but not 3.57 or 3.56! preferably no higher than 3.52), TE. As for the same number of points, you could arrange something like an offline duel. :)
How do points differ from playing for speed?:confused:
Essentially, it's the same thing! It all depends on the speed of winning the game, the number of castles, and the Grail.
If someone finds it difficult to play arena Tournaments, then you can really try playing to level up a Hive within a certain number of game days! ;)
It's better to play on one version. Apparently, most people prefer SOD 3.2, although I'm currently playing on TE. I can't say anything about the earlier versions of WoG because I don't have them. And I only installed it to install TE.
But the new WoG is so different from SoD that it's better not to try playing either way. Or you'll have to disable all the new features!
A few more points. Play only from a single starting save, and not from the map!!! It's better to remove the Grail from the map altogether. Otherwise, the computer might dig it up, and very quickly.
As for the start date of the tournament, I would prefer it to be after the Masters on Heroesleague. It's difficult to combine.
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I am honored to be invited to this tournament. I would like to join. I only have the complete collection from Booki, version 3.58 of the Wog game.
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Thank you to the esteemed Qwerty for the invitation to participate in this tournament, as well as for the flattering review!

I will participate in this tournament only if the game is played EXCLUSIVELY on a specific version of Heroes!

If it's VOG - then VOG,
if it's 3.1 or 3.2 - then it's not VOG:)

My preference is still for 3.1 or 3.2. Since the reimagined monster development, as well as the introduction of captains and other things, completely contradicts the standard version of Heroes! And a fair final tally will be not only problematic but impossible if everyone starts playing different versions!!!

ALL PLAYERS MUST BE ON EQUAL FOOTING. Only then will it be a truly Knightly tournament!!!

P.S. I would like to play a map no larger than M, and for the fastest possible hero development up to level 25 (inclusive). This is just a request;) Oops... sorry, I read further up, we are playing for POINTS! I am in full combat readiness!!!

Sincerely, VDV_forever

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