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Well, I listen to them because of their aggressiveness, and whether it's more complex or not is debatable, but both are masters of the "Metalcore" style.
I found and downloaded an album from 2005, released by Madway, and honestly, it doesn't smell like metalcore. I wonder if I need a different album? Recommend something.
Otherwise, it's more like nu-metal, but with aggression – closer to the style of KoЯn, this is probably a well-known mix called angrycore – something like that.
I found and downloaded an album from 2005, released by Madway, and honestly, it doesn't smell like metalcore:( I don't know, maybe I need a different album? Recommend something.
Otherwise, it's more like Nu-Metal, but aggressive - more in the style of KoЯn, this is probably a well-known mix called angrycore - something like that.
Yes, this is Aggressive Metalcore, and I didn't even try to classify Korn's style; in my opinion, it's just Alternative Hard Rock.... As for the album Lost And Found (2005), it's their best so far...
You can also listen to the band Trivium (Metalcore / Melodic Death), or Engel (Melodic Death / Metalcore) (although there's nothing special in the album, it's still good)...
Those who have read the reviews generally speak well of Slipknot...
Yes, this is Aggressive Metalcore, and I didn't even try to classify the style of Korn; in my opinion, it's just Alternative Hard Rock....
no, not hard rock:smile38:, but hardcore;)
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Well, regarding the album Lost And Found (2005), it's their best so far....
hmm... kj1313;196982
You can also listen to the band Trivium (Metalcore / Melodic Death), or Engel (Melodic Death / Metalcore) (although there's nothing special about the album, it's still good)....
I think I've heard of Trivium, but if I don't have it, it means I didn't like it:(
but I'll probably check out this Engel.
It seems that we have different ideas about metalcore (although it's not surprising - this style is considered a mix of several genres). But I imagine it something like what its representatives play, such as A7X or As I Lay Dying (if you've heard anything from them).
On a winter day in early 1992 in Des Moines (USA), Anders Colefield was helping his welder friend Shawn Crahan with some welding work and, while talking, decided to form a band with him. Shawn and Anders were both drummers, and they decided that their group would have an amazing percussion sound. According to their vision, the future band should have 3 drummers. Shortly after, same welder Shawn called his friend Paul Gray in Los Angeles, who was to be the band's future bassist, and asked if he wanted to play in the group. He agreed.
A minimum lineup for the band was assembled. In 1992, the group wrote their first five songs: "Idiot", "What’s Wrong", "Wise up", "Gently", and "Slipknot". These songs featured an abundance of percussion, which attracted the listener's attention as much as the guitar does in many other metal bands. In his singing style, Anders tried to imitate Max Cavalera from Sepultura (now in Soulfly). At that time, there were approximately two versions of each song. However, in 1993, Shawn had other concerns, and the project was forgotten.
Mate.Feed.Kill.Repeat. (1995—1999)
In 1995, Paul, Shawn, and Anders decided to revive their band.
In January, guitarist Donnie Steele from Paul's death metal band Body Pit joined the group. He took the lead guitar spot, while rhythm guitar was handled by Quan Nong, who came from the band Heads on the Wall. By February, Quan Nong had already left the collective.
Soon Shawn grew tired of being the lead drummer, and in May 1995, he brought Joey Jordison into the group. Joey became the lead drummer, while Shawn decided to create various interesting percussion sounds and crackles. He used his profession as a welder to weld his own small drums.
Additionally, in September, rhythm guitarist Josh Brainard from Modifidious joined the band. In the very beginning of their existence, the group rehearsed in Anders Colefield's basement. The musicians played their songs in a soundproof "Pet Grooming Center". Animals with bladder problems were kept there, so everything smelled like animal urine. The basement was very small and uncomfortable for the musicians. Slipknot first performed at "The Love Shack" club (previously called "The Crowbar") under the name Pyg System and without masks. This performance took place in November 1995. Around the same time, the group renamed themselves "Slipknot". And that was when they decided to perform in masks.
Cover of the album Mate.Feed.Kill.Repeat.
The band also established their own rules: They played only what they wanted and only how they wanted. The band must have 3 drummers.
The main goal of the group was to create music that no one had ever heard before, a spectacle that no one had ever seen. Ultimately, they had a mission to "cleanse the music industry".
Slipknot put in an enormous amount of work developing their music, lyrics, and the band's concept. When the music and everything else were ready, all visits to their rehearsals ceased. The members even forbade their girlfriends from attending. This became part of the collective's philosophy. No one was supposed to know what happened inside the group.
The band began preparing material for their first demo disc while simultaneously performing in Des Moines clubs. Slipknot often played in clubs as well as strip bars, but many people did not like what Slipknot played and the audience was very cool toward them, often with a negative attitude. But they continued to play their style regardless. In such cases, the musicians would say right from the stage: "Choke on it. Get the hell out of here," and gradually, through this persistence, they carved out their own path.
By 1996, the collective had accumulated enough material to record a demo disc. The album was independently recorded using the members' own funds and released on Halloween, October 31, 1996, in a limited edition of 1000 copies titled Mate.Feed.Kill.Repeat.. By the time the album was recorded, two new members had joined the group—sampler Craig Jones and guitarist Mick Thomson, replacing the departed Donnie Steele. The album turned out to be very experimental, one might even say overly experimental. As the musicians later said: "We weren't playing music, but a salad of music." Despite this, the album expanded Slipknot's popularity, and the band began traveling outside the city for concerts.
By that time, the members of Slipknot realized they had rushed the recording of the demo disc and decided to record a new CD consisting of old songs that were reworked and some new ones. The album was titled Crowz. While preparing the album, the group members met Stone Sour vocalist Corey Taylor. Shawn, Joey, and Mick helped him get a job at "The Adult Emporium" sex shop. Corey worked there for three years before becoming the vocalist for Slipknot.
In May 1997, they invited Corey to be the second vocalist in Slipknot, and he agreed.
The band members liked the vocals of second vocalist Corey so much that they suggested Anders give up his spot as lead vocalist and instead become a backing vocalist and back-percussionist. Anders was very offended but sang several songs with Corey as a backing vocalist. At one concert in June, he publicly turned around and walked off, performing "Heartache Pair of Scissors" as a final act.
The group found themselves backed into a corner because they had to re-record all the old songs recorded with Anders. And considering that Anders had a harsh voice and constantly practiced growling, while Corey had previously always sung with clean vocals, it was very difficult for the band.
There was another problem within the collective: new vocalist Corey Taylor was not eager to devote most of his time to Slipknot since he had his own band, Stone Sour. Then Shawn, Joey, and Mick threatened Corey that they would fire him from the sex shop where they had helped him get a job. After this, Corey had to leave his primary band and seriously commit to his new group.
Soon the band stopped wearing ordinary clothes at concerts and switched to their "uniform". The musicians began wearing work coveralls.
In September 1997, Greg Wells joined the group as a third percussionist. He replaced Anders' percussion and sang along slightly by growling instead of Anders. Greg Wells didn't stay long and left the group in June 1998 to work at his own tattoo parlor in South Dakota called "The Ultimate Prick". He was replaced by Brandon Darner. But he also left quickly and was replaced by Chris Fehn in August 1998.
Crowz was supposed to be released on October 31, 1997, exactly one year after the release of Mate.Feed.Kill.Repeat.. But that didn't happen. After many re-recordings and a change of half the band's lineup, the guys decided not to release the record for the time being.
In October 1998, Sid Wilson joined the group as a DJ.
In the same year, the members of the group began looking for a producer and a recording label to record their debut album.
At that time, they had many hard times with recording labels, and companies that came to showcases were frightened. There was a famous quote: "If this is the future of music, then I want to be dead," and the band responded to such words: "We are the future and we're coming to kill you."
The manager worked at a radio station in Des Moines. John worked with producer Ross Robinson (known for his work with Sepultura, Korn, Limp Bizkit, Soulfly, and Deftones), and Slipknot sent him a cassette of their demo—Roadrunner Records Demo. Their manager gave it to Ross, and he liked it. The band forced Ross to rush over on the coldest day of the year to see them rehearsing at Shawn Crahan's house.
Slipknot (1999—2001)
Cover of the album Slipknot
In 1999, the group finally signed a contract with the recording company "Roadrunner Records" and recorded their self-titled debut album under the direction of producer Ross Robinson. During the recording of the disc, guitarist Josh Brainard left the group and was replaced by former member of Corey Taylor's band Stone Sour, guitarist Jim Root.
On June 29, 1999, Slipknot's self-titled debut album was released.
The band began promoting their album at Ozzfest, which lasted from May to July 1999. At the festival, Slipknot filmed their first Home Video—Welcome to Our Neighbourhood.
And from July to December, the group played on the Livin La Vida Loco Tour 1999. The tour went through America and touched Canada slightly where they played a couple of concerts. Then Slipknot conducted the World Domination Tour lasting from December 1999 to July 2000. The tour traveled across countries worldwide.
During this time, the disc sold over 1,000,000 copies, and the collective immediately stood alongside the most famous metal bands. According to "Roadrunner Records", this album is the best recording in their company's history.
The group's popularity was expanded by publications in the rock press: "Metal Hammer", "Classic Rock", "Alternative Press", "Circus", "Guitar World", "Hit Parader", "Kerrang!", "MetalManiacs", "Rolling Stone", and "Spin".
Iowa (2001—2004)
Cover of the album Iowa
After completing the concert tour, the group rested for two months and hit the studio to record their second album. The recording lasted from January to March with only four days off. In April 2001, at a press conference, the song "The Heretic Anthem" was played, reflecting a change in the band's musical direction toward death metal.
In the summer of 2001, the group pleased all their fans with their second studio album titled Iowa. The band's music became noticeably heavier and leaned closer to death metal. Despite its heaviness, the disc immediately debuted at third place on "Billboard" and first in the English charts. In support of the album, the group organized a world tour, Pledge Of Allegiance, which lasted about 1.5 years.
In August, the group appeared in the movie "Rollerball", showing Slipknot performing on stage with the song "I Am Hated", which was included in the soundtrack for this film.
In November, the group released a DVD titled Disasterpieces.
After the tours, the band members unexpectedly split off into side projects. Almost every member started playing in some other group. Vocalist Corey Taylor and guitarist Jim Root were involved in the successful hard rock project Stone Sour, drummer Joey Jordison played in Murderdolls, percussionist Shawn Crahan in To My Surprise, and DJ Sid Wilson played in a solo project under the pseudonym DJ Starscream.
A lull followed; many fans didn't even hope to hear Slipknot again, thinking that the group had broken up.
In March 2003, Corey Taylor, fired up by the success of his side project Stone Sour, said in an interview with the Belgian magazine Aardschok that meeting Shawn Crahan was the worst experience of his life, and Slipknot was the worst thing in human history.
Also in another interview, Corey said that over the last six months he had spoken to only one member of the group besides Jim. Corey said that Slipknot would release one more album, tour, and then split up. He said the band was already irrelevant:
Staying on stage after becoming irrelevant? Never; I will never allow such a thing to happen to a band for which I bled and almost went blind in one eye (once ill-wishers threw an iron bar at Corey and hit him in the eye), not to mention a ruined voice.
This sparked many rumors regarding the breakup of the group. However, in reality, the situation was simpler: the team had split from their managers at the production company No Name Management, and the producers did not fail to predict the project's imminent death without their fatherly supervision.
However, the band believed they were fully capable of handling the situation. They announced that they were working on their new album, and their European tour would begin on May 17. Regarding this, Shawn Crahan said: "This is practically a second coming, and it will be extremely, just extremely brutal. The release date is unknown for now, but we will keep you posted."
Also, Corey stated on the Lazer 103.3 radio station: "We are not breaking up! For whatever reasons, we had to make some management decisions, and we aren't going to break up. We are looking for new managers and plan to record a new album soon, so calm down!"
But literally half a month later, the release of the new album was moved from August 2003 to 2004, and the tour was canceled. They also reported that they had found a new producer, who turned out to be Rick Rubin (known for his work with Slayer, Red Hot Chili Peppers, System of a Down, Beastie Boys).
At the end of June, Corey stated that "Currently, between concert tours, the band is recording an album. The new album will be recorded by the end of 2003, after which we will do a huge tour around the world."
In July, Jim Root spoke about the recording of the new album:
Many say that the album coincides with the time and type of Iowa's recording, but in reality, it is not at all like that. We have already recorded 13 songs, truly heavy ones with plenty of drums and percussion. But that's not all. After we gather again in August, we plan to record another 10 songs. In terms of volume, the album will be roughly like our first one, but who knows what final edit it will have?... 4 or 5 months ago I didn't want to return to the band; I started getting depressed at the mere thought of returning to the group to create a new recording... Probably because... Iowa was not a good experience for me... It is my least favorite album. But now I've come out of that state, now I'm back in the band and I don't get that feeling when watching the DVD. And I can see with satisfaction that everything we did—is actually quite decent.
Corey also gave an interview: "Alright, now it's time again for me to leave my family and hometown to prepare a new, third installment of the Slipknot saga. I'm looking forward to the future Slipknot album. A lot should have changed, but the album material is simply killer."
Vol. 3: The Subliminal Verses (2004-2008)
Cover of the album Vol. 3: The Subliminal Verses
In November 2003, the group finally gathered together under the direction of Rick Rubin in Los Angeles to record a new album.
In the summer of 2004, the band's third studio album Vol. 3: The Subliminal Verses was released. The disc disappointed some of the band's old fans; slow acoustic songs appeared on the record, and the sound became noticeably lighter. But Slipknot members claim that it is the best record they have ever released.
On November 1, 2005, the group released their first live album 9.0: Live. At the same time, Slipknot was finishing their nearly two-year tour in support of the album Vol. 3: The Subliminal Verses. At the end of 2005, a special version of the album Vol. 3: The Subliminal Verses was released containing a second CD with eight new compositions. As after the release of Iowa, the members of the collective immediately split off into side projects.
On December 5, 2006, the group's third DVD, Voliminal: Inside the Nine, was released.
All Hope is Gone (2008)
Cover of the album All Hope is Gone
At this time, a new fourth studio album by Slipknot, "All Hope is Gone", has been recorded and released. The album was written under the supervision of the band's new producer Dave Fortman (known for his work with Mudvayne, Evanescence) in Jamaica, Iowa. The disc was mixed by Colin Richardson (known for his work with Machine Head, Fear Factory, Napalm Death).
In June 2008, the group pleased fans with a new song "All Hope is Gone". And on July 1, the first single from the album, the song "Psychosocial", went on sale. The album itself will be released on August 25, 2008 in Europe and on the 26th in the USA.
On Saturday, July 19 at 7:00 MSK, the premiere of the first clip from the upcoming album—Psychosocial—took place on MTV USA. The clip debuted in the "FNMTV Premiers" program, and Corey, Shawn, and Joey specifically came for it.
The group plans to play at the Mayhem festival across North America. According to Clown, after the Rockstar Energy Mayhem tour ends, Slipknot will return to the USA only in winter-spring 2009, which means American fans won't hear their new songs live until then. And on November 5, 2008, they start a new tour with a concert in Moscow at the Olympic Stadium.
Awards:
1999
"Rolling Stone" magazine named Slipknot "People of the Year".
"Kerrang" and "Metal Hammer" magazines gave the group awards in the categories of "Best Album" and "Best New Group".
Drummer Joey Jordison was named best drummer by "Metal Hammer".
2000
"Kerrang" magazine gave the group awards for best single "Wait and Bleed", best live performance, and also recognized them as the Best Band in the world.
And "Rolling Stone" magazine named Slipknot people of the year.
2001
In February, the group was nominated for a "Grammy" in the category of Best Metal Song with the song Wait and Bleed. The band's vocalist Corey Taylor commented on this as follows:
In the 5th century lived a samurai warrior who celebrated his Birthday quite interestingly. He called this day the Day of Restoration, and on this day the samurai took a new name and lived the following year as if it were the last in his life. The point of the legend is that you live your whole life not knowing what will happen if your life goes steadily. This year Slipknot was nominated for a "Grammy", which is a great honor for us. My heart is excited and we have already discussed this. My brain tells me "be happy, but never be satisfied". Satisfaction is death for a dream. And we will still fulfill many dreams that reside within us.
But the group was not destined to win the award.
2002
In 2002, the group was nominated for a "Grammy" for the third time in the category of best metal song with the song Left Behind.
But the band's bassist Paul Gray didn't even hope to receive the award:
Of course it's cool that we are nominated for a "Grammy". I would even say it is an honor for us to be nominated. I'm not very worried about whether we win or not. I don't even hope to win the statuette and congratulate System of a Down, as they are the ones who should win in my opinion. I just know that System of a Down will get the award, just as I knew Deftones would win last year. It's cool to be among the "Grammy" contenders. I was going to come to the awards ceremony, but I got sick. We are all sick; the band just got off the road.
But Paul Gray was wrong—the award went to the group Tool.
2003
In 2003, Slipknot were again nominated for a "Grammy" in the category of best metal song with the track My Plague. The most interesting thing is that besides them, Stone Sour—the side project of Slipknot vocalist and guitarist Corey Taylor and Jim Root—was also in this nomination, so they had twice as many chances to win. But they did not win.
2005
Slipknot were again nominated for a "Grammy", this time in two categories: best metal composition (Vermilion) and hard rock composition (Duality).
Corey Taylor commented very coldly on the nominated Slipknot compositions across both categories. According to him, the group had to face world classics.
If the "Grammys" are actually fair, I think Motorhead will win in one nomination and Velvet Revolver in the other.
And most surprisingly, Corey was right with both nominations; Motorhead and Velvet Revolver received the "Grammys", while Slipknot were once again on the sidelines.
2006
The group had another opportunity to win a "Grammy"; Slipknot were nominated in the category of best metal song with the composition Before I Forget.
Corey Taylor decided not to waste time on the "Grammys". He didn't even attend the awards ceremony on February 8.
"I'm not going to waste time on a lousy 'Grammy'. This is already the eighth time for me. I was worried about the first two. Now I'm not. Once, when I hoped for victory, my hopes collapsed; maybe that's why I'm irritated, but now, I really don't care. The main thing for me is to continue making music. I want to do this for another 20 years. Dreaming of some idiotic statuette that I'll probably put in the bathroom. I don't need it."
But precisely at the time when the band's vocalist became disillusioned with the award, it ended up in the hands of the musicians from Slipknot.
Taking the stage during the awards ceremony, Paul Gray thanked all the fans for their support, saying: "Thanks to our fans; they are the ones who helped us get here."
Sid Wilson also added: "I hope people use music for good purposes, to convey something to those who are interested in it."
Shawn Crahan paid tribute to his recently deceased father. He also explained Slipknot's inclination toward masks to reporters: "This is our concept, our dream, our sacrifice, our religion."
Unfortunately, the "Grammy" victory was not very joyful for percussionist Shawn Crahan. His father left this world while the group was on tour.
"I constantly remembered that I could lose my father at any moment," said Shawn. "It was hard to accept and come to terms with it because you sacrifice a lot to fulfill your dream, but the pain never goes away; it always remains in your heart. But we had to do this and my father would not have wished me any other fate."
"I felt as if I were pulled into a dark hole," said Shawn, who cried while expressing gratitude to his father during the awards ceremony.
"I haven't even felt that we won yet," said Joey. "I'm glad we didn't get the award earlier; we feel that we deserved it this time."
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and so you and I seem to have different ideas about metalcore, (although it's no wonder - this style is considered a mixture of several). But I imagine it roughly as Bullet for My Valentine, Avenged Sevenfold, or As I Lay Dying play it (if you've heard any of those, of course).
I have the correct ideas; I'm just versatile and believe that in MetalCore melodicism is redundant (that's my opinion). Well, this style in its original form was Crossover with elements of Death metal; it later became broader: Mathcore (it's also called progressive metalcore (The Dillinger Escape Plan)), Moshcore (I would call it HardrockCore (Hatebreed)), Grindcore ((Napalm Death) for which they invented it, I curse them), Deathcore (the style is good but the growling is as tedious as in Death metal (A Black Rose Burial)); and then there are prefixes of course (Melodic, Chaotic, etc.).
And I prefer industrial metal more, which I notice Slipknot lacks very much; if there were more electronics, the band would be priceless.
Yeah, not everything. Unless we're talking about all the great bands... It's just a few. In many cases, it's not just a random collection of sounds. Even on my first phone, there was a melody that wasn't just a random collection of sounds, but I wouldn't download it to my player. :D:D:D And stop talking about them being a "copy of Iron Maiden," it's not accurate, it's just a common misconception. The difference is in the lyrics, which carry completely different meanings. Only a few songs were blatantly copied. The rest of their work is quite independent. Let's call Children of Bodom a copy of Maiden because they did a cover of Aces High. Next. I don't see the drive in hardcore at all. Although I don't deny that it might be there. Degradation. I agree. From singing to growling – not the best transition. I don't like this style either. However, they play heavier music, and it's not just any kind of heaviness. Lock, you can, of course, replace the drums with a program, but live sound is always better and more enjoyable to listen to. They are different, I checked it myself.
Step aside from the way of a better man than you So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you Its the servants devotion for the decay Stand up
Enough talk about them being a "copy of Iron Maiden," you can't call them that, it's just a common misconception.
I agree, let's stop. The topic isn't about that. It seems someone mentioned them being a "copy of Iron Maiden" here, but that wasn't even my opinion, but I agree with it – they play in a similar style (many people make covers, and covers aren't remakes, that doesn't mean they're clones). It was written in a newspaper... eXeCuToR;197448
The difference is in the lyrics, which carry completely different meanings.
In a game, that doesn't matter.))) eXeCuToR;197448
They blatantly stole only a few songs. The rest of their work is quite independent.
Independent, but similar... eXeCuToR;197448
Let's call Children of Bodom a copy of Maiden because they did a cover of Aces High.
Let's not confuse Black with Heavy Metal... eXeCuToR;197448
Furthermore, I don't see the drive in hardcore at all. Although I don't deny that it can be there.
I can agree that when it was first created, it wasn't very driving, but not modern... It was created for drive... eXeCuToR;197448
Degradation. I agree. From singing to grunting – not the most successful transition. I don't like this style either. However, they play heavier, and it's not just any kind of heaviness.
A Metalhead (in the full sense of the word, basically listens to everything – classic, experimental, borderline, alternative metal blends) from another forum told me that these are different types of heaviness, and I agree with him. If you play like Slipknot or Meshuggah, not every Death Metal band can compare. He also respects Slipknot... But I'm not against Death Metal in terms of playing if it's played with rhythm like "DevilDriver," in terms of vocals, I prefer Black Metal (it's not overwhelming, and it's dark)...
But all of this is off-topic, so it would be better if you answered whether a second video will be made for the latest album, "All Hope Is Gone"?
1. It seems like these guys are playing in a similar style, which is why they play the same way. Does anyone want to say that Megadeth is a copy of Metallica? 2. In the game, playing the guitar isn't important, but the style is.
3. See point 1.
4. I doubt I'll ever confuse these two styles, but I'm curious what you would call black metal. In my posts, I haven't mentioned any black metal bands because I don't like that style.
I don't mind Dez's vocals, strangely enough, but I absolutely don't enjoy the music of some of their artists. But this applies even more to alternative music.
Step aside from the way of a better man than you So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you Its the servants devotion for the decay Stand up
It seems like the Slipknot topic has been exhausted. Hmm... what about Stone Sour? It's a side project, so to speak. Corey Taylor and James Root (from Slipknot) play in Stone Sour. I like the band :).
Stone Sour = commercial, just like MurderDolls, because the Slipknot style has become outdated, and they scattered to different projects just in case). But I used to like them. I remember breaking my arm in the seventh grade, and while I was in the hospital, I listened to them.
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Stone Sour = commercial, just like MurderDolls, because the Slipknot style has become outdated, and they all scattered to other projects just in case.
They all play in other bands. But they are all known as Slipknot.
Why has it become outdated?:)
I wonder, will there be a new album in 2009? As Corey said, he wants to write music for another 20 years :)))
They peaked after Vol. 3, when they no longer needed to gain notoriety through silly (I'm not criticizing) antics at concerts. Now they've released something new, and, as you can see, they didn't miss the mark; the album has become popular. Of course, now he's ready to write music for at least another 20 years.
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Basically, each Slipknot album is different from the previous one.
For example, All Hope Is Gone is more melodic.
Although I like both the 1999 album and the 2008 album equally.
Stone Sour = commercial, just like MurderDolls, because the Slipknot style has become outdated, and they scattered to different projects just in case) but I used to like it))) I remember breaking my arm in the 7th grade, and while I was in the hospital, I listened to them.
The first Demo of Stone Sour was in 1996, that is, even before Iowa (2001), and the first Stone Sour album was released in 2003, that is, before Volume 3 The Subliminal Verses (2004), so your theory is wrong))) And Corey Taylor is simply a genius, and I don't care if it's commercial or not, they play well, and that's the main thing!
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It became outdated after Vol.3, when they no longer needed to earn fame with all sorts of stupid (I'm not accusing) antics at concerts. now they released a new one, and, you see, they didn't fail, the album was a success. of course, now he is ready to write music for at least 20 years.
In my opinion, they became even more popular after that album, I like it more than Iowa (I don't understand why almost all Slipknot fans say that this is their best album, and after that they say that they have gone downhill, even if you kill me, I don't understand).
Maybe in the next album they will add more Math Metal, because I noticed a trend towards complicating metal among many bands...
Added after 2 minutes Revan;200107
In principle, each Slipknot album is different from the previous one.
There's actually a band with a similar image to Slipknot, called "Mushroomhead."
Here's what I can tell you:
In 1997, the Cleveland band Mushroomhead was trying to finally sign with a record label. Roadrunner Records was one of the contenders. Mushroomhead sent them their promotional materials: photos, posters, videos, and albums. The label managers took a long time to respond. But in 1998, they asked the band for new material to make a final decision about the contract. At that time, Mushroomhead had just started recording their next album. As soon as the raw material was ready (the future album "M3"), they sent it to Roadrunner Rec. To their surprise, the label responded that they were no longer interested, as they had signed a contract with another band in masks (Slipknot).
The Cleveland musicians were even more surprised when they saw who had taken their contract. Slipknot wore the same jumpsuits. Bassist Paul Gray wore a pig mask, just like Mushroomhead bassist Jack Kilcoyne. DJ Sid wore a gas mask, just like Mushroomhead drummer Steve Felton. And Jim Root wore a BDSM mask from a sex shop, just like Mushroomhead dancer Marko Vukcevich.
Mushroomhead reacted to this situation in the most sensible way, deciding to radically change their image. The masquerade masks were replaced with uniform X-Face masks. And in retaliation, the album M3 included the song "Xeroxed."
Later, another song contained a hint about Slipknot. On the album XIII, you can find the line in the song "Our Own Way": "Despised imitators engaged in plagiarism, but dictatorial ambitions are false."
Initially, there wasn't a real conflict between the bands. It was all started by the fans. However, it should be noted that it wasn't without reason. Sean Crahan said in one interview that Mushroomhead was a terrible band. This served as a catalyst for the conflict. And the next time Slipknot came to Cleveland (Mushroomhead's hometown) for a concert, they received a "warm" welcome. One of the audience members threw a 9-volt battery onto the stage, which hit Paul Gray in the forehead. And the audience began to chant "Mushroomhead!" Corey Taylor, Mick Thompson, and one of the technicians came down from the stage and started a fight (for which Mick and the technician ended up in jail). In a subsequent interview, Corey commented on the situation, saying that it was all staged by Mushroomhead. Although Mushroomhead frontman Jason Popson personally wrote apology letters to each member of Slipknot, even though Mushroomhead didn't even know about the planned prank. However, the apologies were not accepted, and Corey threatened to beat up everyone in Mushroomhead. This is how a verbal exchange between the two bands began, which can be traced in the magazines of that time. Sean Crahan did not miss an opportunity to call Mushroomhead terrible, to which Mushroomhead producer Steve always responded with one phrase: "Come to Cleveland, and we'll sort it out." But Slipknot ignored these offers, probably because Steve promised to knock out all of Corey Taylor's teeth. Things started to improve in early 2002, when Corey sent a message to Steve (Mushroomhead's producer) on his answering machine, saying that he no longer held a grudge against them and wished them success. Since then, relations have improved somewhat. Mushroomhead and Slipknot stopped calling each other names in the press and exchanging threats. But a personal meeting was delayed. Mushroomhead met Slipknot in person only in early 2005 in a Cleveland bar. What they talked about is unknown, but after that, they started badmouthing each other again.