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18 years ago
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Official offline tournament for HoMM IV

«Ice & Flame»



1. To participate in the official offline tournament for Heroes 4 «Ice & Flame», you must register on our website and leave a request in this thread.

This tournament is official; ratings will be awarded based on its results.

2. Please pay attention! The tournament is held on version Heroes IV Equilibris 3.51 TE. The save will be generated in the Russian version.

3. The goal of the game is to defeat the enemy.

Results will be evaluated primarily by minimum time.
If several players have an equal completion time, the winner will be determined by points; if a favorite is still not determined, then by the amount of mercury.

4. Tournament Rules.

1) Using cheat codes during the final save completion is prohibited.
2) Restarting or any other modification of the initial save is prohibited.

3) Use of the space bar.

3.1) Use of the "space" key is PROHIBITED when boarding a boat.
3.2) Use of the "space" key is PROHIBITED when disembarking from a boat to shore.
3.3) Use of the "space" key is ALLOWED when pulling a killed hero (grave) out from under monsters.

4) Bugs - SaveBag

4.1. Shifting monsters using saving is PROHIBITED.
4.2. Additional hero upgrades related to saving are PROHIBITED.
4.3. 65000 arrows for Elves using saving in battle is PROHIBITED.

5) Bugs - SinglBag

5.1. Overcoming obstacles on land, i.e., when dragging units with the mouse from upper slots to lower ones, they end up, for example, behind bushes that are usually impassable (the player does nothing prohibited, uses the mouse; during this operation, units lose some of their moves).
ALLOWED.

5.2. Overcoming obstacles when disembarking from a boat to shore, i.e., landing on the shore without an indication that landing is possible (the anchor is not visible on the shore), again this is done using the mouse, and units' moves are reset (space is obviously prohibited - see point 2).
ALLOWED.

5.3. Upgrading hero graves with a Thief. Upgrading hero graves with a Master of Stealth.

TARGETED upgrading of a grave in this manner is PROHIBITED.

NON-TARGETED upgrading of a grave in this manner is ALLOWED.
You must provide a reasoned explanation as to why you were forced to accidentally upgrade the grave and why it could not be avoided.

5.4. Upgrading graves with ordinary units on attack, defense, or speed crystals (sapphires) in battle, increasing magic points.
PROHIBITED.

5.5. Units carrying a grave are allowed to visit stables, oases, wells, and other objects that increase movement points.
Therefore, EVEN TARGETED transport of a grave through these objects is ALLOWED.

5.6. Use of the hero's spellbook by the same hero as a grave on the adventure map.
PROHIBITED.

6. The use of "completely Closed external dwellings" on the battlefield is prohibited.
(I will explain in more detail for those who don't understand: I consider a "Closed external dwelling" to be a COMPLETELY enclosed area, for example by rocks or logs, which contains
a small island for a unit, such as a fairy, harpy, vampire, etc. That is, a place that cannot be entered on land by a unit of the smallest size (3x3) and can only be reached by air—a kind of natural fortress. Having such an external dwelling, one could use a single fairy to beat a hundred Black Dragons and win an impossible battle; to prevent such situations, I prohibit "Closed external dwellings" in this tournament.)


7. Digging up the Grail without fully opened obelisks is prohibited!

8. Discussing the tournament on the forum during its progress is PROHIBITED!!!
(Players who violate this rule automatically disqualify themselves from playing in the tournament; their results will not be counted and will be annulled).

9. EVERYTHING ELSE IS ALLOWED.
(unlimited number of heroes on the map beyond eight, and so on).

A "Non-closed external dwelling," or more accurately a semi-open one, is allowed in this tournament.
By a semi-open external dwelling, I mean a place where a unit or Hero can
Enter on foot, while attacking monsters, regardless of their size, must be able to reach the Hero or unit to strike them (the point of a Semi-open external dwelling is to limit the number of monsters attacking you simultaneously). Besides, it's not right for a Hero to hide in an external dwelling while the enemies waste themselves on whatever. Our Heroes fight with open visors.


10. During the tournament progress, the player is obliged to save intermediate saves for each game day.
Intermediate saves may be requested by the tournament leader to verify the honesty of the completion. If a player is found using cheat codes or explicitly mentioned prohibited bugs and game features, the player will be immediately excluded from the tournament.
It is also necessary to make saves of controversial battles (e.g., hero and fairy against 100 dragons) so that the fairness of the victory in the clash can be verified.

11. Along with the final save, players are required to send a description of the tactics for the final battle (the harder the battle, the more detailed).
If the win depends on morale/luck rolls or specific actions of computer players, a full description of the battle is required—one that allows it to be repeated.

12. Send the final save to the email address Lu41k@yandex.ru. The sent save must contain the participant's number from the application table, the abbreviation IF («Ice & Flame»), and the player's Nickname. Example: 1_IF_Lu41k.h4s.

13. The tournament starts on August 6 and will last until September 7 (inclusive!). Results will be announced on September 10, 2008.

14. After receiving your save, you will see in the application table that:

save accepted - indicated by a Bold Nickname

This list may be added to by new participants!
We invite everyone to take part in the tournament!


Saves will only be considered from players who are in this table, so make your requests IN ADVANCE!!!
PARTICIPANT LIST
NUMBERPLAYER NICKNAME
1LordZezuk
2WisTrit
3General ZeT
4Lee
5Uranist
6Lord Vampire
7Просто_мэн
8Спай
9Dr Motor
10BigAke


Everything about the starting save

1. Download the save.

2. The downloaded save must be placed on your computer in the GAMES folder of the installed Heroes 4.

3. Load it and start playing at any time convenient for you, while remembering to make daily saves.

4. After reaching the final action (after which victory occurs), save again.

5. With the final save, describe this last step in detail (most likely a battle); then the results will be processed faster and there will be fewer suspicions of cheating!!!

6. A full description of the tournament map is encouraged (optional). If such descriptions are provided, a contest for the best description will be held; 10 of them (the very best) will take their place of honor in the "Hall of Fame" section!

7. Send this save to the specified address (in the rules of this tournament).

8. Wait for the results.

- map for the tournament

- starting save


P.S. I wish all tournament participants a great time playing!!! And good luck:smile02:

Sincerely, Luchik!


"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
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17 years ago
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Lu41k, did you play through this map yourself? I can't seem to defeat this guard xD))) The map is challenging... but I'll try to complete it.
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17 years ago
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General, this map has been played hundreds of times in tournaments ;) So you must be doing something wrong! :)

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17 years ago
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I'm not arguing about the tournament history of this map, but with such a high level of difficulty and such strong defenses, I don't think it can be completed within 15 days. It's simply not possible to complete it quickly. If you try to break through the defenses near the portal, it will take 60-70 days, and the defenses are the same on both sides of the portal.
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17 years ago
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I don't think it will be completed within 15 days.

Where did the number 15 come from? I believe the win condition is to defeat the enemy, but not within 15 days. Complete it in as many days as you can! :)

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17 years ago
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Where did the number 15 come from?

I just made it up.
Play as much as you can!

I was wondering what to do. Well, I'll play as much as I can.
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17 years ago
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General ZeT, this is a tournament map)) Only from online tournaments :)
One of the most popular maps at the World Championship!
I didn't manage to finish it myself, but I've seen my husband play it many times!
And you can actually complete it online in a month, or even less (I know the exact number, but I won't say)). So, the top players can complete it in 15 days, with all their tricks))) But completing it without using save/load is much more difficult! And you have all the possibilities here :)

So, play and be happy! ;)

P.S. The difficulty level is standard for this map. The map is not easy, but they don't put easy maps in official tournaments! And also... I really wanted to see how long it takes to complete this map offline :) So let's see the results ;)

Best regards, Luchik!


"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
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17 years ago
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I didn't have time to play it until August 27th; I started playing it recently and will try to finish it quickly.
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17 years ago
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I'm signing up.
I sent the final save file to both email addresses (I considered myself the 8th in the table)...
Equi doesn't support the Russian keyboard layout. That's why I named the final save file 8_IF_Spy.
Please confirm receipt. :)
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17 years ago
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Spike, I have received your save! Thank you for participating; it's great to see that 4 Heroes are popular! :)
And your number is indeed 8 ;)

I hope the other participants will join soon; there is very little time left :)

Best regards, Luchik!


"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
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17 years ago
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Don't be too harsh, folks:) I just can't play well. I can't beat it. But I know that pros could do it in a week:) I apologize to everyone and to our dear organizer once again:) With respect, Lord of Vampires.
Тот, кто находит удовольствие в уединении, либо дикий зверь, либо Бог (с) Аристотель

:smile24::smile24::smile24::smile24::smile24:
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17 years ago
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I have a question: does the description only need to cover one battle? And which one will be the final one? After all, finishing off the enemy isn't a difficult battle in any way...

I want to get an answer to my question... "sniff-sniff"

"sniff-sniff-sniff"

"whimpers and curls up in a corner"... I won't leave here until I know...
Tomorrow holds no promises
Except the ones we've made
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17 years ago
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Please add me to the list as well. I'll participate too – I think I'll manage to complete something. The main thing is to participate. And this is my first time participating in events like this, although I've been playing the game for quite a while.

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Thanks, that's great!
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17 years ago
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WisTrit, well, in principle, no one prevents you from creating a complete description of the entire walkthrough; this is actually encouraged. The description of the final battle is needed to check the battle itself, to play it as the player who sent the save file did. Of course, if the final save file contains this battle, sometimes it doesn't (everything has already been killed, and you are just waiting for 3 days). It would be good if the battle could be won on auto-battle (if this is possible, just indicate it). If the battle is so difficult that it is impossible to win it on auto-battle, then a description is needed to know what and how the tournament participant did, in order to win. I read the description, repeat his actions, and see if I can win in this case! Best regards, Luchik!


"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
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17 years ago
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To be honest, I can’t understand how it’s possible to win anything on this map using auto-battle… :smile07: It’s beyond my comprehension, I’m afraid. :smile15:
Just in case, I’ll provide a description of all the battles, and go into more detail for the particularly difficult ones.
I understand which final battle you’re referring to; I just initially thought of something else. :)
and also.
(everyone has already been killed, and you’re just waiting for 3 days)
3 days?..

Thank you for answering this very important question. ;)
Tomorrow holds no promises
Except the ones we've made
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17 years ago
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WisTrit, I agree, on this map, probably nothing can be won using auto-battle. But the rules are written the same for all offline tournaments; if there are any additional points for a specific tournament, they are specified. Regarding the 3 days: There are situations where cities are captured, heroes are defeated, but the final doesn't occur. Instead, you receive a message: hold your cities for another 3 days, and you will win! This usually happens if a lone unit or units of the enemy army are wandering around, sent to gather resources or simply for scouting. They don't pose a real threat, cannot capture cities, but they exist, and this gives the AI the impression that the enemy army has not been completely defeated. Therefore, 3 days are given either to eliminate this "obstacle" or simply to wait. P.S. Thank you for the question; it's clear that you are a thoughtful player who carefully reads the rules, which is very pleasant. I apologize for the delay in responding. I hope you will please me with your save file. Sincerely, Luchik!


"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."

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