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South Ossetia
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Georgia
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RUSSIAN FEDERATION
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I don't know
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XEL;190285
The mention of Russian passports in my post was in the context that it was one of the factors supporting South Ossetia and Abkhazia joining Russia.
Yes, but these passports appeared after the tensions in South Ossetia began. That is, first, the Ossetians declared that they wanted independence and to join Russia, then Georgia refused them this "luxury," and only after that did Russia provide the residents of South Ossetia with its citizenship and passports. Quite a situation.
As for the "illegal" inclusion of South Ossetia into Georgia, you are again wrong; everything was done according to the law and some decree on the distribution of territories after the collapse of the USSR. However, this distribution was, to put it mildly, strange. Ossetia was divided into North and South, with one included in Russia and the other in Georgia. Crimea was given to Ukraine, and there are many other mistakes, which represent a ticking time bomb, as each of them has caused/is causing/will cause conflicts. Why this division was signed by the majority of those responsible for it, I have no idea:smile32:

P.S. Facts and nothing but the facts.

"Let's fly to the most beautiful sky. No matter how many times your wings break, keep trying."©Crono Crusade

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Yeah, but these passports appeared after the tensions in South Ossetia began. That is, first, the Ossetians declared that they wanted independence and to join Russia, then Georgia refused them this luxury, and only after that did Russia offer the residents of South Ossetia its citizenship and passports. Quite a situation.
As for the "illegal" inclusion of South Ossetia into Georgia, they are wrong again; everything was done according to the law and some decree on the distribution of territories after the collapse of the USSR. However, this distribution was, to put it mildly, strange. Ossetia was divided into North and South, with one included in Russia and the other in Georgia. Crimea was given to Ukraine, and there are many other mistakes, which represent a ticking time bomb, as each of them has caused/is causing/will cause conflicts. Why this division was signed by the majority of those responsible for it, I have no idea:smile32:
So what? I even mentioned in my post above that the Russian passports were mentioned in the context of South Ossetia's desire to join Russia.
Regarding the annexation. According to the law, as far as I know, Georgia, as a republic with autonomies on its territory, should have separately decided on the issue of its autonomies (since they could also become separate states), but it simply left them within its composition.
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Nazg, I know it sounds absurd. However, that's how it was. Not very pleasant facts, you must agree. I don't understand the point of it either.
Step aside from the way of a better man than you
So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you
Its the servants devotion for the decay
Stand up

There are no flowers on your grave
There are no chains
There I keep chanting for the forgotten name © Amorphis
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What's the point of voting? There are 328,000 votes, and 92% support Russia. That's a bit strange...))
O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.


G.K. Chesterton: English Hymnal
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I don't understand the talk about the lack of objectivity in our media (I'm not quoting because I'm not at home and don't have access to my computer). Western channels report from the safe city of Tbilisi, while ours report directly from the conflict zone, risking their lives. The main newsmaker for the West is Saakashvili, while ours show interviews (or simply conduct polls) with the victims. How can they be accused of being biased when the consequences of the Georgian bandits' raid are right behind them? Another question is the losses, but here, Georgia exaggerates them many times over, while our side has no reason to hide them, and it would be impossible to do so.
I don't know the details of the situation with Russian passports in South Ossetia, but it's already clear that this republic will never become Georgian again.
Regarding the poll, has all this anti-Russian information campaign failed to confuse the minds of ordinary people? I would like to hope so.
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.

God save us everyone
Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns...
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No, it's just that EVERYWHERE people are spamming this link and writing "click 'Yes'," and this is the result...
Where do we go?
Where do we end up when we save the world?
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Saakashvili speaks with BBC


Principles for resolving the situation in the Caucasus have been proposed.
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Tbilisi warns people about US provocations in central and western Georgia

In Tbilisi, ICQ users are receiving a message about US provocations: "In western Georgia, in Kutaisi, detachments of Bandera supporters from western Ukraine and Baltic nationalists have been formed. They are disguised in Russian uniforms and armed with Russian weapons. Many cities in western Georgia have now been abandoned by Georgian troops and police, and Russia does not want to begin an occupation of Georgia itself, so there is complete lawlessness there, and the population is left to fend for itself and is without protection.

According to military journalists, the US, through Ukrainians and Balts, is preparing a major provocation - mass atrocities against the local population under the guise of Russian soldiers.

All of them, of course, speak Russian and are white, so the Georgian population will not be able to distinguish them from Russians. These European "gentlemen" have video and photo equipment to document the "Russian" atrocities.

THE PROVOCATIONS ARE POSSIBLE IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE!"

Currently, all of Georgia is disconnected from the .ru domain, and it is impossible to inform a large number of Georgians through vkontakte.ru - they are simply not there.

Georgians! If you have relatives or friends in western or central Georgia, in cities abandoned by the Georgian army, they should evacuate IMMEDIATELY women, children, and the elderly, preferably to Tbilisi, where provocations are unlikely, as the Georgian army is stationed there. Men should form people's militias for self-defense. In the event of a provocation, they should capture the Nazi outcasts ALIVE.

Georgians! RUSSIANS ARE NOT YOUR ENEMIES! In Russia, everyone supports the Georgian people and the "Georgian" - that is, American - occupation government! No one in Russia wants the suffering of the brotherly Georgian people! The Russian army will never commit atrocities against the civilian population!

The worst enemies of Russia and the Russian people are the Baltic and western Ukrainian nationalists, the ideological heirs of the SS "Galicia," the "forest brothers," and the "Latvian riflemen." They will stop at nothing to portray Russians as murderers and barbarians!

SPREAD THIS URGENTLY! EVERY HOUR COUNTS!

Source - OSinform News Agency.

http://osinform.ru/news/

Sincerely, VDV_forever
Единый справочник по Героям Меча и Магии

ТУРНИРЫ ПО ГЕРОЯМ 1!:smile13:
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Well... I find it hard to believe.
Step aside from the way of a better man than you
So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you
Its the servants devotion for the decay
Stand up

There are no flowers on your grave
There are no chains
There I keep chanting for the forgotten name © Amorphis
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Okay, if that’s the case.
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No one believed there would be a war in South Ossetia either. I don't know if it's true or not, but it would have been better if it had been, um, disinformation.
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