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Who is right?
15 voters
Single choice Closed 2008-12-10
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South Ossetia
26.7% 4 votes
Georgia
0% 0 votes
RUSSIAN FEDERATION
46.7% 7 votes
I don't know
26.7% 4 votes
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It's a pity that people are dying like this. Georgians are shooting wounded people, who didn't even need this war... Is it really possible to just shoot at defenseless people? Is it really possible to kill a wounded, unarmed person? It's one thing to shoot at enemy soldiers, but it's completely different to shoot at civilians. And I'm not even talking about the fact that 25% of the population of South Ossetia are Georgians, who may also suffer. Saakashvili is definitely losing it...

As reported in the news, out of 1400 victims, quite a few are citizens of Russia.
Georgians, that's a great way to put it, lol.
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Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
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The swords of scorn divide,
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well, who doubted that a third world war was coming? it's already on the horizon, isn't it?

you know, it's a rather idiotic situation. it reminds me of a sandbox where little children hit each other with shovels on the head, trying to snatch a bucket from each other; a third, proud child, a year older, looks down on them haughtily, building sandcastles, and no one notices the healthy, unshaven man with a crowbar who is approaching the sandbox with an undefined purpose.
the truth is, the blows from the shovel are not as innocent and painless as they seem.

saakashvili won't understand anything until he finds himself in close proximity to a mortar explosion. hundreds of people have died, thousands have been wounded and left homeless. they have lost everything. absolutely everything.
i think that soon the hot-headed leader will suffer the same fate as kadyrov.
no matter how much they shout, georgia will no longer be able to join nato. although... considering that it would be against our country...

p.s. shouting "russia will be defeated! we will crush them!" is at least stupid.
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If I'm not mistaken, the Geneva Convention prohibits harming the wounded, whether they are enemies or not, and instead requires providing them with assistance. Nevertheless, even in our "civilized" 21st century, this seems to be forgotten by chance. And we're still talking about democracy and world peace? It's almost comical. Not to mention that such wars are encouraged. How can there be democracy if someone is not allowed to peacefully secede from a country?
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Russian Federation. Peacekeepers were deployed, and Georgia opened fire on them. Now, the Georgians will quickly be brought to their senses. As for the talk about the "prelude to World War III," it's just laughable. Given the current state of affairs, World War III could be between the United States and Russia. Neither of us is foolish enough to start a war over what is essentially a local conflict between Georgia and South Ossetia. Yes, the West will complain about how Russia is suppressing democracy and fighting against the freedom of Georgia and South Ossetia. But there definitely won't be a World War III because of this. The reason is not significant enough. I don't understand why there is a separate option for "South Ossetia" in the poll. If it's going to be included, it should be in one option with Russia.
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I agree. There won't be a war because of this. It will be because of something else. But it will most likely happen, even if it's later.
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It is unlikely to happen in the coming decades. Bush's "team" includes many fanatics who miss the Soviet Union and the Cold War, but even they are not so foolish as to start a war with Russia without any exceptional reason. After all, World War III today would certainly be a nuclear war.
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where did I say that World War III would start because of this event? It seems like nowhere, right? I'm just saying that it shows the overall level of... everything today. This is just one of the resulting facts.
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Saakashvili won't understand anything until he finds himself in close proximity to a mortar explosion. Hundreds of people have died, thousands have been wounded and left homeless. They have lost everything. Absolutely everything.
I think that soon the hot-headed leader will suffer the same fate as Kadyrov.
Loken, Saakashvili has nothing to understand; he is currently being portrayed in the world as a champion of democracy (with American support, of course). They are already trumpeting about a military act against Georgia, about interference in the affairs of another country, and even about the bombing of Tskhinvali by our (!) bombers, with losses of around 2,000 among the civilian population. The UN has become corrupt and has retreated into its hole, taking its "important" statements with it, so now, who will be blamed for the war? The blame has already been shifted to us, and pro-NATO countries have expressed support for Georgia (Ukraine, Latvia, etc.). Despite the fact that we are essentially repelling an armed attack, we are in a very contradictory situation, and it is unclear how the world will react to this. So, this is not a "stupid" act, but a well-planned direct aggression against Russia, and, of course, against Ossetia, as our ally.
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Different opinions are being expressed here... I think that calls for the seizure of Georgia are, of course, foolish, however... It wasn't our military that began bombing the city with civilians and our peacekeepers at night without warning. It wasn't our military that killed 1600 civilians and 15 of our soldiers. It wasn't our military that is preventing the evacuation of the wounded from the city. And so on. Although no one has declared war, what is happening now can only be described as such. The Security Council is just a gathering of who knows who; they have already met three times and haven't decided anything. And of course, America fully supports Georgia... In Western media, Russia is naturally considered the culprit. In general, there will be no peace anymore, and in my opinion, now is the time to show these Georgian bastards their place. I mean Saakashvili and his cronies. They want war; they will get it. To get these republics back into the composition of Georgia, they will have to kill all the civilians, because after all these events, no one will want to live under the rule of Georgia. At the same time, they clearly demonstrated to the West that Russia will defend its national interests and its citizens, no matter who threatens them. In general, let's see what happens next. However, there will be no third world war here; America doesn't even know what to do with Afghanistan and Iraq...
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.

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Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns...
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!Everything that happened is just the result of well-planned actions – Georgia is just a tool to launch the operation. The immediate result is the creation of an information barrier – to portray Russia as |especially dangerous to the whole world| – the goals of this are already clear. They are using it as a means of influencing both the people of Georgia, so they don't learn the truth about how they are being used, and the entire international Community – the method is disinformation, using the media and the internet. On the American continents, information about the real events is so distorted that Russia is presented as simply a monster that invaded other people's lands with the aim of conquest and posing a threat to everyone. Here is some good news that sheds some light on the situation.


Just look at the speech of the President of Georgia – who gives a speech on CNN in American, with the flag of the European Union behind him (this is also not accidental) and says completely inappropriate things about Russia.

And most importantly, don't give in to the provocation of inciting hatred between peoples. The Georgian people are absolutely not to blame here – the President of Georgia is the one who can be blamed – but he is just a pawn.

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!!! |and remove this inappropriate poll in the topic| There are no right sides here... there is only a goal – Russia / and the means – Georgia / the source that created the goal is unknown and it is not worth looking for a simple answer here, not everything is so simple !!!=
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It would be good to leave the poll. But only with the option "Russian Federation and South Ossetia".
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Guys, Lock is right. You probably didn't quite understand his interpretation (he already wrote about it). In fact, everything is exactly as he said. The USA and its lackeys are undermining us in every way possible. A few more global provocations like this, and Russia could be portrayed to the whole world as another fascist Germany, as a serious threat to humanity. And, of course, the whole world will be told that Russia has a powerful army, a huge nuclear arsenal, and so on.

Anyway, let's see how things develop, but I really don't like all this...
O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.


G.K. Chesterton: English Hymnal
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Major Whirlwind;189901
And, of course, it will also be announced to the whole world that Russia possesses a powerful army, a huge nuclear arsenal, and so on.
In general, that's exactly what will happen. The only difference is that it will probably be stated in the context of Russia's intentions to conquer the whole world.
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Guys, aren't you taking into account that Russian media also, to put it mildly, doesn't tell the whole truth? Yes, Georgia started this conflict, but we also made ourselves look terrible by immediately intervening. It's obvious to everyone that this was a provocation, and we acted like idiots. If we're talking about holding a knife to the throat of the Georgian government, then our politicians should do the same. And regarding Georgia's bombing of civilians, last night Russian troops bombed an aircraft factory in Tbilisi and didn't even flinch that it was located in a residential area. If even one bomb had missed, that would have been it, not to mention that several bombs didn't explode, and people in nearby houses were asked to stay home until everything was neutralized. Is that normal in your opinion? Wars are generally disgusting, and this one is particularly incomprehensible, as no one among the civilian population of either Georgia or Russia wants this war (except for some fanatics, or idiots, who have fallen for television propaganda). As for the UN, it's just something else entirely. Remember any conflict where they were able to do anything? No? I don't remember either. And I don't understand what the UN is for...

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Guys, aren't you taking into account that Russian media also, to put it mildly, doesn't tell the whole truth? Yes, Georgia started this conflict, but we also made ourselves look terrible by immediately intervening.
In my opinion, we gained much more than we lost. We presented ourselves more as kind, naive good guys.
P.S. "Kind, naive good guys" is a good phrase, and I think it fits.
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