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K0Lb@zzeR;189493
I'm curious... how can this be tracked... the use of a database in the game???
It's impossible to track, but you can ban someone by covering the entire map with cursed ground or artifacts, but that's a different story...

I'll try to say a few words in defense of the program. Sometimes, there are battles where you need to get a Blessing of Divinity (BoD) three times in a row to win, and you end up spending days trying to get it! This is where this program would be useful! It will save a lot of time, just like a hero-finding program, and in general, there aren't that many battles like that! Personally, I'm all for introducing and using this program!
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The program is almost finished. I want to ask the Heroes community: should I release it?

And I can do it without your program, even with +1 morale and +1 luck, for example, by making a stack of archers shoot 10 times in a row (shot +BD; shot +luck). In offline mode, of course. It will take me half an hour to an hour. If I knew how to use programs that record video from the screen, I would post it here. It will be interesting - write to me in private.
Your method will be faster, I think. It's not a big deal.
The question is: who and to what extent will abuse this program?... But there is no definitive answer here.
I would personally want such a program. But if it is publicly available, I will act harshly: I will generate BD with luck to the maximum. Because I'm not Don Quixote. I'm not abusing this trick right now.
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I really love Vanechka's posts!!! :D He said everything correctly, to the point, and in a beautiful way! Well done!! And I'll add that I'll be using this program even when playing online! For the same reasons!!
Because I'm not Don Quixote
I'm not abusing this trick right now
There aren't many battles where you really need to generate a database and rely on sheer luck!
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It's impossible to track, but you can ban it by covering the entire map with cursed ground or artifacts, but that's another story...
Hehe:D
Ban BD – there are other gaming resources. Why ruin the game???
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Vanechka;189503
Hehe:D
Ban BD, there are other gaming resources. Why ruin the game???
Hmm, I think BD will be banned on other resources as well.
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Alright, let it be! It was bound to happen sooner or later! They discovered that the Earth is round, even though they tried to suppress that discovery and even burned a person at the stake, but others came along and rediscovered it... the same will happen here; if the program isn't released now, sooner or later, someone else will come along, disassemble it, and write a program!

Let's not burn AlexSpl at the stake then. And regarding the program, I think AlexSpl himself can come up with a way to track it and prevent its use in offline tournaments.
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Hehe:D
Ban BD – there are other gaming resources. Why ruin the game???
Everyone understands that banning BD is nonsense! Besides other resources, there are other games! Those who don't like something will have the opportunity to play them :D
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Kyle;189506
Hmm, I think they'll ban BD on other resources as well.
Kyle, in a mental institution, they ban sharp corners and cover the walls with foam. Why is this necessary for normal people?
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Vanechka;189511
Why would anyone need this?
You're an adult, yet you play a children's game, and not only do you play it, but after completing a map in a couple of hours, you spend much more time (many times more) trying to complete the map in n-1 days. Do you consider yourself a healthy person? ;)
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You're an adult, yet you play a children's game, and not just play it, but after completing a map in a couple of hours, you spend much more (many times more) time trying to complete the map in n-1 days. Do you consider yourself a healthy person? ;)
In reality, this is no longer a children's game, but rather a kind of sporting interest – to get the maximum out of a map!
And regarding the sharp angles, Vanya hinted correctly, because reducing the building limit in a hero is roughly the same thing!
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Kyle, in a mental institution, they ban sharp corners and cover the walls with foam. Why is this necessary for normal people?

What will be the point of the game? You sit, sip your coffee, light a cigarette, a green light comes on - bang, you shoot, or you just walk around. Before, you had to think: is it worth attacking, is it not, how to move to win the battle.
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But what will be the point of the game? You sit, sip your coffee, light a cigarette, and a green light comes on – you shoot or walk around. Before, you had to think about whether it was worth attacking or not, and how to move your units to win the battle.
Andrey, believe me, there is more to think about in Heroes than just battles! There are maps where you sit and rack your brain trying to figure out which direction to send which hero, and no program can help you with that!
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Andrey, believe me, there are things to think about in Heroes besides just battles! There are maps where you sit and rack your brain trying to figure out which direction to send which hero, and no program can help you with that!

I agree with you 100% on this point, but not everything that simplifies makes it better! I hope you understand?!
Then, allow an infinite number of turns, and you won't have to think about anything at all.
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I think the use of the program can be tracked; it modifies parameters, so traces remain after it's used. We just need to find out what it changes and at what address. As for the project to create this program, I liked it; it will be very interesting. Regarding blocking the database, simply double the army size instead of playing without the program. For example, if you don't have the program, the map will have 20 elves (for example), but if you download it, you'll need a map with 40 elves.
Одна древняя легенда гласит,
Что темный дракон весь мир покорит,
Темный дракон - безликая тень,
Теперь навсегда ночь сменит день.
Он свергнет всех местных Богов,
Ни сила, ни воля не сдержат его.
Рыцарь, король - все одно для него,
С ним в битве исчезнет и зло, и добро.

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Andrey44_44
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Yes, this will lead to situations where players will have stacks of a hundred dragons, and it won't be possible to build magic structures in castles above level 3, but we'll be making progress with Battle Doctrine!!!
And I think it will be possible to track.

The question is whether to allow it or not?

Because stronger and more experienced players are already creating such massive armies with weaker units that I wouldn't even dream of. And if they also get Battle Doctrine, it's game over.
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