Mini-Tournament "For Sale" — Tournament history (offline) — Page 19

Registered: 5/8/2008

Posts: 264

#271 8/4/2008 12:18 PM UTC

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Thank you for the detailed and long-awaited description!!!!!
There is very interesting information.

BUT, quote: I came to the conclusion that in internal structures such as conservatories, crypts, naga banks, utopias, etc., the battle map (let's call the entire battle process, step by step, a map) remains unchanged when the same actions are repeated.

For example, when fighting dwarves in a treasure chamber (100 units), the morale worked differently for both me and the dwarves (with the exact same moves repeated).

Registered: 6/5/2008

Posts: 196

#272 8/4/2008 12:23 PM UTC

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I still don’t understand – can the flag be used in oases as well?

Одна древняя легенда гласит,
Что темный дракон весь мир покорит,
Темный дракон - безликая тень,
Теперь навсегда ночь сменит день.
Он свергнет всех местных Богов,
Ни сила, ни воля не сдержат его.
Рыцарь, король - все одно для него,
С ним в битве исчезнет и зло, и добро.

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Registered: 5/8/2008

Posts: 264

#273 8/4/2008 12:27 PM UTC

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DARK_DRAGON;188676

I still don't understand – can the flag be used on an oasis as well?

After any battle, visiting a flag or an oasis increases not only morale but also movement range. You can significantly increase a hero's movement range on an oasis.

Registered: 6/5/2008

Posts: 196

#274 8/4/2008 1:35 PM UTC

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Exactly, and yet it’s forbidden by the rules (visiting objects that increase the number of turns).

Одна древняя легенда гласит,
Что темный дракон весь мир покорит,
Темный дракон - безликая тень,
Теперь навсегда ночь сменит день.
Он свергнет всех местных Богов,
Ни сила, ни воля не сдержат его.
Рыцарь, король - все одно для него,
С ним в битве исчезнет и зло, и добро.

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Registered: 4/29/2007

Posts: 11,030

#275 8/4/2008 1:39 PM UTC

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DARK_DRAGON;188690

That's exactly it, and yet it's forbidden in the rules (visiting objects that increase the number of turns).

Who said that? Nothing like that! I don't see any reason to prohibit visiting these objects.... Where did you even get that from? :confused:

Registered: 6/5/2008

Posts: 196

#276 8/4/2008 2:17 PM UTC

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Who said that? Nothing like that! I don't see any reason to ban visiting these places... Where did you even get that from?

Seriously, is that allowed? Damn, I might be able to finish it in 2 days then.

Одна древняя легенда гласит,
Что темный дракон весь мир покорит,
Темный дракон - безликая тень,
Теперь навсегда ночь сменит день.
Он свергнет всех местных Богов,
Ни сила, ни воля не сдержат его.
Рыцарь, король - все одно для него,
С ним в битве исчезнет и зло, и добро.

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Registered: 10/21/2006

Posts: 148

#277 8/4/2008 2:23 PM UTC

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DARK_DRAGON;188676

I still don't understand – can the flag be used on Oasis tiles?

Why not? Is it a bug or a prohibited tactic?

Registered: 6/5/2008

Posts: 196

#278 8/4/2008 2:43 PM UTC

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I could have, but I thought it wasn't allowed, so I just completed it in 3 days.

Одна древняя легенда гласит,
Что темный дракон весь мир покорит,
Темный дракон - безликая тень,
Теперь навсегда ночь сменит день.
Он свергнет всех местных Богов,
Ни сила, ни воля не сдержат его.
Рыцарь, король - все одно для него,
С ним в битве исчезнет и зло, и добро.

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Registered: 4/29/2007

Posts: 11,030

#279 8/4/2008 2:48 PM UTC

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DARK_DRAGON;188714

Sure, I just thought it wasn't allowed, so I completed it in only 3 days.

Actually, the fountain isn't the key here; you can easily complete it in 2 days without it!
As they say: You can't catch a fish without a POND! :D

Registered: 6/5/2008

Posts: 196

#280 8/4/2008 2:55 PM UTC

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Actually, the fountain isn't necessary; you can easily complete it in 2 days without it!
As they say: You can't catch fish without a POND!

It's possible, but it would be considered an unfair playthrough (I'm talking about doing it without effort).

Одна древняя легенда гласит,
Что темный дракон весь мир покорит,
Темный дракон - безликая тень,
Теперь навсегда ночь сменит день.
Он свергнет всех местных Богов,
Ни сила, ни воля не сдержат его.
Рыцарь, король - все одно для него,
С ним в битве исчезнет и зло, и добро.

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Registered: 12/15/2006

Posts: 1,035

#282 8/5/2008 1:07 PM UTC

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Eldgernon;188843

I watched the video about the Titans, but the link to the console doesn't seem to be working.

Apparently, files larger than 5 megabytes cannot be uploaded to Narod, and it was removed. Please download the video in the archive.

Клан Homo homini

Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. Charity never faileth...

Registered: 6/5/2008

Posts: 196

#283 8/5/2008 2:49 PM UTC

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I would like to ask those who created the map (and others) what programs you used while playing through it.

Одна древняя легенда гласит,
Что темный дракон весь мир покорит,
Темный дракон - безликая тень,
Теперь навсегда ночь сменит день.
Он свергнет всех местных Богов,
Ни сила, ни воля не сдержат его.
Рыцарь, король - все одно для него,
С ним в битве исчезнет и зло, и добро.

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Registered: 5/22/2006

Posts: 1,394

#284 8/5/2008 9:35 PM UTC

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DARK_DRAGON;188918

I would like to ask the winners (and everyone else) what programs they used while playing the map?

All players used the excavator (Hero Digger) to optimize the recruitment of the necessary hero – this works with 100% probability and guarantees that all available heroes will be recruited in a strictly defined sequence... This is evident from the introductory part of the winner's description – more than 10 heroes arrived in a strictly defined order chosen by the player. This technique significantly reduces the game time and increases the efficiency of completing the map, which is not prohibited, as it fits within the reasonable limits of probability theory. There is no need to use any other programs in this playthrough...

Сначала было слово...
FizMiG v.2.0 *** Очередное обновление справочника! *** http://vk.com/fizmig

Registered: 6/5/2008

Posts: 196

#285 8/5/2008 11:33 PM UTC

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Regarding the hero editor, I know about it, but are there any other programs? By the way, I think using the hero editor is cheating, and I think it should be banned. Also, which heroes are prohibited from being hired?

Одна древняя легенда гласит,
Что темный дракон весь мир покорит,
Темный дракон - безликая тень,
Теперь навсегда ночь сменит день.
Он свергнет всех местных Богов,
Ни сила, ни воля не сдержат его.
Рыцарь, король - все одно для него,
С ним в битве исчезнет и зло, и добро.

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Registered: 12/15/2006

Posts: 1,035

#286 8/6/2008 7:09 AM UTC

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Senatоr;188986

2 vbn: but is there a limit of 200 gems?! Diplomacy with Roland could have been used... with an advanced skill and a small amount of meat (for example, troglodytes from Brokhild), the same stormtroopers would gladly join. So, there is no limit to perfection))

Well, there is always a limit, and on this map, it can even be calculated.
Recruiting stormtroopers is not a good option; you would have to spend money on 1 or 2 extra heroes, which is not efficient.

Клан Homo homini

Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. Charity never faileth...

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