Best artist contest. — Art Gallery

Майор Вихрь

18 years ago

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First of all, the contest has an organizer, and they should decide how it will be run, one way or another; however, it would be logical and appropriate for them to listen to the participants (which, in my opinion, they are doing successfully). And the following questions remain unclear to me: 1. Is the contest for the "best unit drawing" or the "best drawing on the theme of heroes"? 2. One or multiple drawings? How would Mephisto prefer to organize the contest if there are multiple drawings? Possible options: * The scheme proposed by vbn. * Several stages (i.e., one drawing participates in the "best unit" stage, another in the "best landscape" stage, etc.). * Several drawings in one vote (i.e., drawings are submitted anonymously by each participant, and all these drawings participate in the contest, so drawings by the same participant compete against each other). * Nominations (the organizer comes up with several nominations in advance, which a drawing can be awarded for, or the nominations are determined directly during the viewing and evaluation of the works). Awarding nominations can also be done in several ways: a) each nomination is awarded by creating a voting thread; b) nominations are awarded directly in the thread by writing a post, for example: "in my opinion, drawing #1 deserves the "best drawing" nomination, and drawing #5 deserves the "most colorful drawing" nomination..."; c) a group of people is created, responsible for coming up with and assigning nominations (they themselves do not participate in the contest), while the rest participate only in the usual vote to determine the main nomination - "best drawing". In principle, other, more interesting options can be proposed if any exist. 3. The duration of the contest. Several opinions and requests have been expressed regarding this. As I understand from what potential participants are writing, it is not desirable to delay the deadlines, as people want a resolution sooner, but significantly shortening the deadlines is not acceptable for people who have exams/sessions coming up. Therefore, I suggest extending the contest until June 10 (i.e., participants must submit their work by this date), and if someone cannot meet the deadline, they should inform the organizer, and they will be given additional time (maximum - one week). However, this question depends on how many drawings are needed for participation. If it's one, then the deadlines I proposed should be more than enough; if it's two or three, I can't say for sure.

Dracon Малласа

18 years ago

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Any idiot can take a piece of paper, hold it up to the monitor, and trace it.

I've never tried that. I decided to give it a shot, and my back started hurting, and my arms got tired. It's better to just draw it myself))).

The following questions remain unclear to me:
1. Is the contest for the "best unit drawing" or the "best drawing on the theme of heroes"?
2. One or multiple drawings? How would Mephisto organize the contest if there are multiple drawings? Possible options:
* The scheme proposed by vbn.
* Several stages (i.e., one drawing participates in the "best unit" stage, another in the "best landscape" stage, etc.).
* Several drawings in one vote (i.e., drawings are submitted anonymously by each participant, and all these drawings participate in the contest, so drawings by the same participant compete against each other).
* Nominations (the organizer comes up with several nominations in advance, which a drawing can be awarded for, or the nominations will be determined directly during the viewing and evaluation of the works). Awarding nominations can also be done in several ways: a) each nomination is awarded by creating a voting thread; b) nominations are awarded directly in the thread by writing a post, for example: "in my opinion, drawing #1 deserves the "best drawing" nomination, and drawing #5 deserves the "most colorful drawing" nomination..."; c) a group of people is created, responsible for coming up with and assigning nominations (they do not participate in the contest themselves), while the rest participate only in the usual vote to determine the main nomination - "best drawing".
In principle, other, more interesting options can be proposed if any exist.
3. The duration of the contest. Several opinions and requests have been expressed regarding this. As I understand from what potential participants are writing, it is not desirable to delay the deadlines, as people want a resolution sooner, but shortening the deadlines too much is not acceptable for people who have exams/sessions coming up. Therefore, I suggest extending the contest until June 10 (i.e., participants must submit their work by this date), and if someone cannot meet the deadline, they inform the organizer, and they will be given additional time (max. - one week). But this issue depends on how many drawings are needed for participation. If it's one, then the deadlines I proposed should be more than enough; if it's 2 or 3, I can't say for sure.

So, Major has explained everything clearly and accurately, and he deserves respect for that.
Creating many polls to vote on in order to answer all these questions would be stupid and time-consuming. Therefore, I suggest that each participant write in this thread about their preferences regarding the scheme indicated by Major. It would be good if everyone did this by the end of the week so that the organizer can set clear rules in the thread.
1) I think that the best drawing on the theme of heroes is better, as it offers more room for imagination.
2) I suggest making several drawings, according to the scheme proposed by vbn.
3) Nominations should be created when viewing the drawings, not in advance.
4) Each nomination will be chosen by voting.
5) It is still impossible to say anything definite about the deadlines for the contest, and we will definitely decide this issue when all participants write in the thread, answering the questions posed by Major.

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Небо

18 years ago

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My opinion regarding Major's proposal:
1. Best drawing on the theme of heroes
2.

Major Whirlwind; 177990

* Several drawings in one vote (i.e., drawings are submitted anonymously by each participant, and all these drawings participate in the competition, thus, drawings by the same participant compete with each other).

3. Extend the deadline to June 10th. Give additional time to those who didn't manage to submit.
P.S.: I never thought you could attach a piece of paper to the screen and redraw any picture. I tried it, and it's terribly inconvenient, and the screen suffers :)

Kitsune

18 years ago

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Shall we set aside a month for the contest? There really isn't much time left.

Julyanna

18 years ago

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1) Can I just upload a picture of a unit?
2) Until what date will the contest last?

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Lady Revan

18 years ago

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Lelya;177985

In general, it would be very unfair if those who just copy images also participate. Anyone can take a piece of paper, put it against the monitor, and redraw it.

I have never tried it. And I don't think anyone on the forum does it. Why would anyone need to do that? For example, I find it more interesting to draw units than to create variations, because I love the Heroes series. But I don't do it the way you described! I draw myself.

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absd;177968

Maybe it would be better to conduct a poll: who is for 1 drawing, who is for 2, and who is for 3. I see that opinions are divided.

I agree with you. It would be better that way. I personally am for one. And I have already started it. But not everyone likes it; some just want to draw units! And I don't know what to do. My dark elf dragon is already half finished, and then this happened... It needs to be modified((((

Dracon Малласа

18 years ago

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1) Can I just post a picture of a unit?
2) Until what date will the contest last?

Read the previous posts in the thread, and you'll understand the conversation; for now, nothing has been decided yet.

Аделаида

18 years ago

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1) A drawing on a geoid theme (this way, there will be more participants and drawings, and it will be more interesting for viewers when there is such a variety). 2) I suggest creating several drawings according to a scheme, vbn. (and in the poll, make it so that viewers can vote for several creations, 2-3, and prohibit the artists themselves from voting for themselves; the competition should be anonymous). 3) The nominations should be created when a group of people or the organizer and his assistant view the drawings, based on general discussion and feedback in the competition topic. 4) It is difficult to choose each nomination by voting; it is technically inconvenient. Make a poll for the best artist, and choose the nominations from the discussion of the works. 5) The shorter the deadline, the better; forgive me, students... let's at least finish it by June 10th.

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Полосатая

18 years ago

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1. Heroic theme. Everyone has already said why. 2. Nominations awarded by a group of people (or one person) taking into account messages from people in the thread. 3. I think it would be better to have one drawing, chosen by the author, so there will be less confusion, and it will be easier to award the nominations... 4. If there is only one drawing, it won't take too much time. Up to the 10th - that's perfect.

Arandor

18 years ago

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it’s better to submit one drawing at a time so that everyone has an equal chance)... and for those who want to create more, the art fantasy theme is always open))\

P.S. if they decide to do several (or however many they want), it’s better to do it in stages or in groups\

P.P.S. ... if the drawing is a direct copy of the game’s art, then of course it will be a traced image... in that case, let the copiers at least change the pose or the arrangement of the hands and feet... or let them add some kind of movement to the unit... otherwise, it will just be a copy of the art, which is not interesting at all.

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Леля

18 years ago

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If that's the case, should we only use units from Heroes of Might and Magic V for the artwork? After all, this topic is in the Heroes of Might and Magic V section... In general, I think it would be better to create a separate topic for organizing the contest and move all the discussions about the organization there. In the new topic, under this title (by the way, at least give it a title), we could write the final rules, deadlines, and everything related to the assignment itself. Otherwise, it's a pain for me to read all 3 pages with text that repeats itself, and then try to find where all the participants, rules, and deadlines are listed. ;) IMHO.

Майор Вихрь

18 years ago

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To summarize, based on what I wrote, everyone started expressing their opinions. I originally intended the post more for Mephisto, although what we have now is even better. Now I can say that it's up to the participants to decide. 1. A drawing on a hero-related theme, instead of just units, as was originally suggested. 2. The nominations will be determined by a group of people or the organizer. At the same time, they will be based on discussions of the drawings and comments from voters, determining the nominations. That is, a group of people decides, but the opinion of the majority is taken into account. 3. Regarding several drawings, opinions differed. But now, I think it's obvious that if there are several drawings, it should be done according to the scheme proposed by vbn. But I would prefer a single drawing. The most important thing is that this will simplify the implementation of the contest, eliminate possible confusion and problems with anonymity (which was supported, if not by everyone, then by most). Furthermore, Lelya expressed a reasonable idea about creating a separate thread for the contest. Indeed, it would be more appropriate in the corresponding "contests" section. Then, in the first post, all the rules (of which there aren't many) should be added, as well as a list of participants and other useful information. Later (after June 10th), the drawings will be added to this same first post, and the contest itself will begin. I don't think it's necessary to keep the selection of drawings secret (after all, these aren't moderator elections). It would be great if everyone expressed their opinion about each drawing separately (which is necessary for assigning nominations), and this thread should be used to discuss issues related to the organization of the contest. And finally, the last point: there have already been suggestions to make the contest regular. In my opinion, once a year is too rare; after all, excellent drawings can be created much more often. The most optimal options for me seem to be holding the contest every six months or every season. In any case, we need to hold this contest first and then judge, based on the activity, etc., whether it makes sense to hold it regularly and how regularly.

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Леля

18 years ago

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ArhLich;178027

I've never tried it. And I don't think anyone on the forum does it that way. Why would anyone need to do that? For example, I find it more interesting to draw units than to modify them, as I love the heroes. But I don't do it the way you described! I draw them myself.

Calm down. I'm not pointing fingers at you, I'm just saying it for future reference. You don't have to modify the units; you can just draw them in a different pose, as I described above. ;)

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Mefisto

18 years ago

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I don't know about others, but I won't have time to participate! There will be a maximum of 1 drawing from me; otherwise, I simply won't have enough time! I have exams! Let's make the contest last until mid-June! Everyone submits 1 drawing! We need to put our best effort into it! Who disagrees? In principle, if someone wants, they can submit more drawings.

By the way, please don't spam here! We only need ideas! Not discussions about who will draw what!
If someone cheats and copies, it will be on their conscience! It's impossible to monitor that!

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Simsa

18 years ago

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Is it still possible to participate (i.e., register)?
And can I ask some questions?

1) Should units be depicted in the singular, or can there be more than one on a single image? Two, for example? Or five?

2) Should they only be depicted in their usual environments (a druid in a forest, an assassin in a dungeon, etc.), or can a hero/unit be placed in a setting not from the game? Of course, it should look harmonious and fit the scene. But that will be up to the author's discretion.

P.S.: I don't know for sure yet what I will be drawing, but it's possible that something like that will be included... so I would appreciate answers to these questions - is it allowed or not?

Sincerely, Simas...

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