Posts from The 3rd stage of the annual John Van Caneghem Tournament (2008). Auto-translated

All 4 stacks (2 for money, 2 for free) of angels join there, and one stack of 3 archangels

... I overlooked ((( that's bad..(( .. the 3 archangels near the shipyard I didn't even think of recruiting — I took them out with Luna (AAAA I adore her) ))) ;) ... likewise the stack near the Griffin Conservatory — then I recruited the 2nd one and near the fort I didn't think...
by the way, I basically played the map 3 times.. - because at the start !!!!!!!!!!!!2 times!!!!!!!!!!! I messed up and didn't open 1 tile — for the 2nd hero to pass through (where I had to use the boots — across the water) (1st time I just didn't think — 2nd time I thought and still.. screwed up)

The desire to play such a map for speed (despite all its polish and density) was not even zero, but negative.

well, I hope Vanechka will please us in the next stage of Homm 3 — with a mind-blowing logistics map (but please, no symmetry) ;).. (and yes, by the way, I have an idea — it's been floating around for a very long time, but I don't have the time to realize it myself.. this is also about map-building — so if you have the strength and desire, I can throw in an almost fully fleshed-out idea for a tournament that never happened — definitely not on our portal — on others, I don't know... )));)

Yeah... I have virtually no experience playing on such complex maps. But I finished it out of principle, despite a severe lack of time. After a rather shocking experience with a truly terrible result (around 65 days), I realized that I only had about 14 hours left to replay. For me, it's simply impossible to test a couple of new variations with different logistics. So, I bought Dess and reduced the time to 43. I understand that I will be the last one to submit a save among those who sent them.

I don't understand how you're counting the angels... :confused:
No matter how hard I tried, 3 archangels wouldn't join my army. Of course, you can get them to join, but you need angels in your army first, but where do you get them?
Collecting all the angels on the island is just a waste of time. I gathered 16 and easily defeated Mutara. 13 angels were left. After that, Ril, with 11 angels, recruited more angels near the shipyard, and there were 23 angels in total!!
The most annoying thing is that I gathered an alliance of angels and such a powerful army for Xeron, and he didn't even put up a fight :D

So, I present to you the results of the annual John Van Caneghem tournament for Heroes 3:

Stage 3 of the annual John Van Caneghem tournament
Number	Participant	Experience	Days	Demons
1	Dirty_Player :smile49:	496	22	98
2	Vanechka	496	24	282
3	Romanuel	492	43	149
4	AmberSoler	492	47	11
5	Barsik13	490	60	66
6	dim013	472	165	400

I would like to congratulate all the valiant heroes on completing the tournament! And of course, our winner - Dirty_Player! Bravo ;)!

P.S. Please accept my sincere apologies for the delay!

UPS!!!...is that ALL???...6 people???...something's not right. If the results are final, I have a big request for the winner: please share your save files with the audience, the more the better.

Day 1-1-1
Fiona runs to the exit of the dungeon. Mariussa takes Advanced Pathfinding and runs to the fort on the hill. "E"
Day 1-1-2
Mariussa to the fort, Fiona into the dungeon. "E"
Day 1-1-3
Fiona visits the green tent. Mariussa defeats the Efreet, upgrades the demons, and runs back. "E"
Day 1-1-4
Fiona takes the neutral Inferno. Mariussa collects wood for the tavern. Now there is something to think about. We build the tavern and buy Peer, Josephine, Ryland, and Luna. Ryland captures the abandoned mine and goes to the stone of knowledge. "E"
Day 1-1-5
We visit the second stone of knowledge with Luna, take Advanced Wisdom, and dismiss her. Josephine gets Advanced Diplomacy at the stone of knowledge. Ryland gets Expert Diplomacy after the stone and two chests. Mariussa trades Horned Demons for boots and runs to the exit. We buy Dessa and build the Stronghold. "E"
Day 1-1-6
Ryland joins the magogs at the mine. We pass troops to Josephine in a chain. She connects the magogs, cerberi, and loots the imp swarm. Peer takes the telescope from the Pit Lords. We dismiss Josephine. "E"
Day 1-1-7
Telescope and troops passed back in a chain. Ryland connects the cerberi at the fountain and gives everything to Fiona. Mariussa connects the magogs and dogs. Kirr, Josephine, and Luna are purchased (in the castle with the guild). "E"
Day 1-2-1
Mariussa climbs out of the dungeon and stands in the corner. Ril connects trolls and demons. Josephine trades at the bazaar and jumps into the sea. We build hell gates in the Inferno and release Luna. "E"
Day 1-2-2
Fiona defeats the sultans, takes the spyglass, enters the castle, jumps through the portal to light the way for Mariussa, and jumps back. Mariussa crosses the river. Ril connects the second stack of trolls. Josephine sails away, and Luna gets into the boat. "E"
Day 1-2-3
Mariussa gives up the boots. Kirr with troops gets into the boat. Luna passes troops to Josephine. Josephine lands and defeats the Archangels. "E"
Day 1-2-4
Mariussa gets into the boat. Josephine uses the chests to max out Expert Diplomacy, connects 7 angels, and shakes one out of a can. Luna lands on the shore. "E"
Day 1-2-5
Mariussa sails through the whirlpool and lands on the shore. Luna with one angel kills the Scorpicore and bursts into the brown player's log. "E"
Day 1-2-6
Mariussa goes through the portal, removes the green pillar, freeing Gunnar, connects the magogs, and visits the blue tent. Peer connects 3 Archdevils and captures the gold mine. Josephine joins 8 angels at the fort on the hill and passes them to Luna. Luna races past Mutara and on the last moves takes Evernight castle, reaching level 5 and Expert Fire Magic!!! We build a mana whirlpool there. Ril gets into the boat. "E"

During the turn transition, Gunn gets into the boat, and Mutara attacks Luna. The main battle for which everything was done.
Mutara 27-26-20-21(3 mana)
Army: 23 Evil Eyes, 25 Royal Minotaurs, 13 Queen Medusae, 24 Harpy Witches, 7 Scorpicores, 10 Black Dragons.
Luna 0-1-7-8(160 mana)
Army: 16 Angels, 26 Trolls, 2 Pit Lords, 1 Pit Lord, 2 Pit Lords, 52 Horned Demons, 34 Cerberi.
Incredible, but VICTORY!!! 13 Angels remaining. I won't describe the battle in detail so as not to rob the pleasure from those who want to fight this battle themselves.

Day 1-2-7
Josephine goes to the brown player's capital, Luna follows her, and Kirr runs to the seer's hut where 100 demons are given. Mariussa kills the Efreet-Sultans, freeing Gem. Gem stands next to Pandora's box. "E"
Day 1-3-1
Ril sails in. Josephine captures the brown player's last castle. Mariussa joins 544 hobbits and is dismissed. "E"
Day 1-3-2
Luna gets into the boat. Peer takes the Necklace of Divine Grace and stands in the place where it lay.

During the turn transition, Gunnar attacks Peer and is wiped out without losses!

Day 1-3-3
Kirr takes 100 demons for Gunnar. Ril loots the naga-bank, connects angels near the shipyard, and gets into the boat. Mariussa is purchased, troops are brought to her, and she connects Pit Lords at the quarry. Luna sails toward the blue player. "E"
Day 1-3-4
Ril sails, and Josephine gets into the boat. Luna lands by the blue player. Mariussa visits the library. "E"
Day 1-3-5
Ril takes armor +1 and lands on the shore by the blue player. Kirr passes 100 demons to Josephine and is dismissed. Josephine sails to the obelisk. Fiona kills the Mummies and visits the obelisk. Peer breaks through garrisons with Queen Medusae. Luna captures Ashden. Moner and Clancy are purchased. "E"

During the turn transition, Axis attacks Luna and consequently is wiped out. Rashka jumps into the boat at the spot where Ril just landed. What luck!

Day 1-3-6
Josephine lands by the obelisk, killing Black Dragons. Peer pulls troops out of the dungeon. "E"
Day 1-3-7
Josephine visits the obelisk and gets into the boat. Ril captures Abaddon. Hell gates are built there and Luna emerges. Mariussa breaks the garrison and stands next to the pillar, and Clancy stands by the shore. Gem hires Kirr at the external tavern. Kirr stands in the place where the Grail is presumed to be. Tyraxor is purchased. "E"

During the turn transition, Deemer kills Gem, and Oris kills Tyraxor.

Day 1-4-1
Clancy takes the demons from Josephine and gives them to Mariussa. Mariussa goes through the gates and effortlessly crushes Xeron. The Angel Alliance RULES! Luna kills Arlash. Moner visits the last obelisk. Kirr digs up the Grail. Luna attacks Oris. Luna fails to win and both heroes perish. The blue player is finished!

VICTORY!
Total:
Score – 496.
Days – 22.
Demons – 98.

Respectfully, Gryazny_Igrok.

P.S.: I'm posting only the battle with Mutara because the rest is of no interest to anyone.
2Romanuel I can email you all 402 saves. If needed, send a PM.

Hmm. The Moon unit turned out to be more powerful than my Interrus in terms of stats.
Congratulations, DirtyPlayer!:smile12:

DirtyPlayer receives another extremely challenging map as a reward:

The Danish kingdom remembers its heroes
:smile40: :smile40: :smile40:

Vanya, thank you so much!!!! What an amazing gift!!!!! :smile54: I'll make a map out of it if I can!!!!!!!!!! :-)
Respect, my friend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :smile54:
I'm really shocked!!!!! :)

Hey, where's Fireball? And where's Catch? What about Kamikaze? And Nzol?

Where's the catch?

Ordered to live long :smile16:

It was thanks to their absence that I made it to the top with a completely unconventional strategy, where Mariussa was bored on her starting location, waiting for the fast-moving Dessa to connect with her troops and leave with the Earth book to Acheron. Moreover, I discarded the Boots of Levitation after eliminating everyone I could reach without using the blue tent. I knew I had played incorrectly, but not to that extent! I didn't have time to meticulously review all the saves provided to me by Dirty_Player, but what I saw was impressive. I believe that this archive will enrich any beginner, like myself. BY THE WAY – this is a map for players who REALLY know how to play the third game. The idea of how to acquire the book came to me, but I failed to get Fiona into Candent. And in general, I messed up. It's like the stage in the fourth game last year, when everyone else also failed, and I made it into the ranking with 32 days on a map where the Iron Golem managed in 3 days.

5th place... I would really like to take a look at the results, or rather, the list of 18 results. I understood from my previous (first) tournament, "Time of Change," that the leaders are ahead by three times the number of days. But there are also players at my "level" who may have used the map editor for the first time and studied the physics engine (their results are especially interesting to me). Besides, even good players sometimes make mistakes, which leads to a mediocre result. Yes, my result of 60 days is not great, but I tried, and I'm not ashamed of it (and I didn't exceed the number of days of the leader by three times). I would be glad if others would also share what they have achieved, without fearing a loss of respect or rating. In general, it would be nice to feel some competition and competitive spirit in the "2nd league" of secondary results, and not just a clear focus on winning.

Thank you very much to everyone who sent in their saves!
A special thank you for the description to the winner. Congratulations!

5th place... I'd really like to see the bigger picture, or rather, the list of 18 results.

I think that's all here... )) It's just that players who are unhappy with their results often don't submit their final results. Like, if I'm not first, then I won't participate at all... ))) And the fact that a quorum is important to other players doesn't seem to bother them, unfortunately...

I am and remain against pre-registration for tournaments. Whoever plays, plays, and if there's no final result, there's no point in shouting "Register me too!"... The results of these applications are obvious. On average, no more than 30% actually play, the rest just chat in the thread and mislead... And this isn't the first time...

That's exactly the point – with such a low turnout, or rather, a lack of participation, things get a bit bleak... In that case, the organizers could simply post the winner's result, and that would be it. Everyone already knows their own results.