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Someone has been rambling here.

And there's no need to start an argument if the goal is to prove the correctness of not your own version, but both. What's the point of the discussion then? Huh?

That's why I'd ask you not to pretend to be smart.

The participant in the argument takes on an absurd and comical appearance in the process.

And then, here's my last post. It comments on the opponent's thought and is supplemented by my statements. And? Is there anything to say about this?

Now I understand what the notorious hot-headedness is all about. It's in stubbornness... By the way, it's very convenient to call the opponent's arguments stupid and accuse him of not understanding the subject matter if you yourself have nothing to say. It's a good method. It immediately discourages the opponent from any desire to continue an idiotic argument on the verge of absurdity.

The future belongs to science. To the exact sciences, baby. All new and new inventions and modifications of old ones.

I'm talking about mathematics in general - there are numbers everywhere, there are always at least basic counting skills needed, everything is organized and arranged on shelves in alphabetical order, there are subtle automatic calculations that are not immediately obvious, and logic is needed in many things (yes, and again, logic).

Not knowing the language, you can still survive. In the city, in the forest - it doesn't matter where. Just remember the hermits, the inhabitants of tiny villages, guest workers, the homeless. A homeless person can sit all day at a pedestrian crossing, not saying a word, with an outstretched hat or glass, a hermit can live in the forest, and although it can be very difficult in the psychological sense without communication, a peasant can plow the land, talking only in gossip with his neighbor, a guest worker can work as a janitor and communicate with gestures, receiving food and shelter... But none of them can live without knowing the basic principles of mathematics.

If a Dryopithecus saw two separate, parallel-growing trees, not having speech, he could not name them in any way. Well, maybe "ugauht" or something like that. And even then, it's not really a definition. Rather, it's an "intuitive impulse." Seeing two other trees, he might even forget about it... But the point is? The point is that he still understood that they were parallel, that they did not intersect, even if he did not have the words and definitions for it. That's how it is.

I couldn't help but smile while reading. All of this, on the contrary, is the future. The future lies in science. In the exact sciences, darling. All new and new inventions and modifications of old ones.

Even without knowing the language, you will still survive. In the city, in the forest - it doesn't matter where. Just remember hermits, residents of tiny villages, migrant workers, homeless people... but none of them can live without knowing the basics of mathematics. A hermit will not be able to calculate the amount of wood to be harvested for the winter, a migrant worker and a vagrant will not know how much money they have and what they can buy with it, a villager will never build a shed without knowing numbers and concepts of basic geometry, will never harvest a crop without knowing how many days have passed, how many months until winter, how many months it takes for a particular crop to mature.

Logic, rationalism (yes, again), ingenuity, the ability to identify what is needed, to distinguish one thing from another, to set a goal, to make a plan, and to follow it, and much, much more - this is mathematics. This is the very essence of the human mind. You may not know programming codes or Newton's binomial formula, but you will always be able to distinguish a sphere from a cube, you will always be able to add one to another and figure out what will happen. Because all of this is mathematics.
That's it.

trade, money, negotiations (yes, again logic), architecture, education, industry, advertising, art, corporations, agencies, show business, militarism, healthcare - everywhere, everywhere there is a significant amount of mathematics.

That's it.

and this argument will not end until you get tired of it

the only thing that can annoy me is when they call me a "kid"... I asked not to call me that...

What nonsense... how can I not understand mathematics if I am a mathematician myself... where is your vaunted logic?

that's exactly what "ONLY" means... guess what the second part is? In advertising, art, and show business, I disagree - the main thing is money and the right creative approach... and our healthcare system no longer treats people, but cripples them because they are most concerned with extracting money for medicines in a geometric progression... in Moscow, I was almost killed in a paid central hospital...

any knowledge can be passed down by inheritance, and even if a person has never studied any mathematical sciences, but in childhood they were shown the essence, they will always be able to repeat it

I won't even talk about logic and rationalism - first understand their meaning... it's just impossible... you perceive them abstractly... you can also distinguish a sphere from a cube with figurative thinking - and so what???

No, I haven't read that, although I enjoy the cynical style of Bernard. But I have read the gritty "Salimov's Fate," "The Sharpshooter," and "The Corpse," all by the same author, after which many things became easier and more readily understood. And although this has nothing to do with mathematics or language, it might inspire such thoughts; the aftereffect is quite strong.