Discussion of level 4 monsters. — General

Пандора

18 years ago

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Of course, bonus monsters like the Sorceress, Gargantua, Dragon King, and others are significantly stronger than the standard level 4 monsters that can be recruited in a Castle... Although there are no level 5 monsters, it should be acknowledged that they form their own, special class.

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снайп

18 years ago

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General ZeT;134839

There are no 5th-level creatures in the 4th game, and that's why the Citadel is considered a 4th-level structure.

Sorry, I'm not very familiar with the 4th game :) Please excuse my limited knowledge in this area, but it shouldn't even be included in the poll. IMO, it would be like comparing a Dark Knight and a Lich from the 3rd game.
P.S.: Those who have played both games will understand me.)))

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Pandora;136227

Of course, bonus monsters like the Sorceress, Gargantua, Dragon King, etc., are significantly stronger than the traditional 4th-level monsters that can be recruited in a castle... Even though there are no 5th-level creatures, it should be acknowledged that they form their own, special class.

I sincerely apologize for the off-topic comment, but I just don't remember what a Sorceress is. If it's not too much trouble, could you remind me?

Хранитель заката

18 years ago

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The Mantis and the Phoenix are definitely the best, especially in terms of aesthetics. P.S. There's a mistake in the topic title.

M@)(iM

18 years ago

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Phoenix is the most beautiful! I also like the hydra! P.S. There are no errors in the topic title!

Light God

18 years ago

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Dragon King and Black Dragons

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T@mar@

18 years ago

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Dragons and Manticores are undoubtedly...

But I find Sea Serpents delightful, they are so plump... and quite strong, by the way...

Has no one ever run from them at sea? :rolleyes:

Legolas2301

18 years ago

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The very best – black dragons...

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Dirty_Player

18 years ago

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Legolas89;173911

The best are black dragons...

It's obvious that black dragons are the strongest! However, when it comes to price/quality ratio, one can argue :)
I think strong options are Magic Dragons, Thunderbirds, Beasts, and Evil Witches :D

General ZeT

18 years ago

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T@mar@;173893

Dragons and Manticores are undoubtedly...

But I find Sea Serpents delightful, they're so plump... and quite strong, by the way...

Hasn't anyone ever run around the sea with them? :rolleyes:

:D The Sea Serpent is a unique creature. It's the only one that can defeat the Dragon King in a one-on-one battle.

It's obvious that Sea Serpents are the strongest creatures!

That's just an initial impression. In reality, there is no single strongest creature (some consider the Dragon King to be the strongest).
Example 1: A Sea Serpent can defeat a Dragon King, simply by eating it:))
Example 2: A Dragon King can lose to a single Minotaur (a level 2 creature), but the Minotaur cannot defeat a Sorceress, who cannot kill the Dragon King. And here the circle closes:) i.e., the Minotaur can defeat the Dragon King, but cannot defeat the Sorceress. The Sorceress can defeat the Minotaur, but cannot defeat the Dragon King.
Example 3: A Dark Champion can defeat a Sorceress, the Sorceress can defeat a Sea Serpent, and the Sea Serpent can defeat the Dark Champion. And the circle closes again:)

Conclusion: there is no single strongest creature.

If anyone has questions about Minotaur vs. Dragon King, look for it in one of the topics in section 4. Somewhere there, our Iron Champion explains how to defeat the Dragon King with a Minotaur. And even if you don't find it, you'll learn a lot of interesting things from IronAxe's posts, just like I did.:)

:smile17:

UTER

18 years ago

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Champions are the units that make playing for survival worthwhile! Take a 10-week increase in champions and other creatures, and you'll probably realize that only dragon golems ruin the whole picture, but in general, you need to judge units not only by how they fight each other, but also by how they perform on the battlefield with heroes and other creatures!

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Byk

18 years ago

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I like the bone dragon, but the hydra is also pretty good if you buff it, for example, with cat reflexes, speed, bloodlust, and if you have a necromancer, then vampire touch. It becomes a killing machine, hitting everyone twice with powerful attacks and also restoring health from all targets. And regarding champions, UTER is right, I always build them when I play as Haven, the main thing is to get the build-up going.

Zybr

18 years ago

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Champions? Why replace fast Angels with a large but fragile stack?
Besides their speed, Angels give a hero a second chance or replenish their losses in battles with neutral creatures, and they also perform very well under buffs, unlike Champions. Regeneration and the Guardian Angel ability are more effective when the stack has a larger health pool. But Champions will attack a more or less strong and resilient enemy unit, and then they can be defeated, and no speed boost will save them. Moreover, the speed boost is only effective on the first turn; after that, the Champions simply won't be allowed to gain momentum.
The same applies to Hydras, unfortunately. The unit is very strong, and it can also be buffed, but when the choice is between them and Champions, well, the Hydra doesn't stand a chance. In Might and Magic IV, speed is one of the most important factors for victory. With Champions, the army will have very high speed (and no other monsters are needed in the army). Also, Champions are good in battle because they can quickly eliminate enemy mages and archers when the heroes are still weak (battles with neutral creatures), while the Hydra also needs to be buffed, which consumes mana that the Chaos Knight needs to conserve, otherwise it will run out at the most crucial moment.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

Нэйко

18 years ago

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I think that magic and black dragons are the coolest of all. Magic dragons are cool because of their magic, and black dragons are just very strong.

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Lu41k

18 years ago

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Mutare Drake;191241

I think that magical and black dragons are the coolest of all)). Magical dragons are cool because of their magic, and black dragons are just very strong))).

Black dragons are not just very strong :) They have 100% magic resistance, which is definitely a plus and sometimes the key to victory, although this can also be a disadvantage, because you can't cast protective or blessing spells on them, and you can't heal or regenerate them... oh well. But there must be some drawbacks ;) And also... they are not cheap, they require a lot of sulfur, and then it is difficult to buy them, and they are born rarely. But otherwise, they are just super units :) Much better than slow hydras :)
Magic dragons (by the way, specifically Magic dragons ;)) are also good, but... they have little HP, they are generally weak in melee combat, and they are useless against resistance. If you are playing against mages, then Phoenixes are better, they are strong and can fly, and they have fire protection, they attack 2-3 at a time (if they are in a group), and most importantly, they can be reborn, if, of course, their mana is not stolen :)
Recently, when playing as Nature, I prefer them, although it depends on the opponent, of course :)
Well, that's just my IMHO :)

"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."

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Zybr

18 years ago

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Lu41k;191256

Black units aren't just very strong :) They have 100% magic resistance, which is definitely a plus and sometimes the key to victory, although this can also be a drawback, as you can't cast protective or blessing spells on them, nor can you heal or apply regeneration... oh well. But they must have some drawbacks, right? ;) And also... they are quite expensive, requiring a lot of sulfur, and it's difficult to buy them back, and they are rarely produced. But otherwise, they are simply superb units :) Much better than slow Hydras :)
Magic Dragons (by the way, specifically Magic Dragons) are also good, but... they have low HP, they are weak in melee combat, and they are useless against resistance. If you're playing against mages, then Phoenixes are better – they are strong, they fly, and they have fire resistance, they attack 2-3 at a time (if in a group), and most importantly, they can be reborn if their mana isn't stolen. :)
Recently, when playing as Nature, I prefer them, although it depends on the opponent, of course. :)
Well, that's just my IMHO. :)

1) It's not resistance, but immunity)) if they had resistance....:rolleyes:

2) Magic Dragons are probably more effective against mages, thanks to the Mirror spell. You won't always risk casting spells on them, and the computer often hesitates to do so (this applies to neutral creatures).

Oh, Phoenixes:rolleyes: with the support of a Druid, Healer, and Tactician... mmm)))
It's so convenient to use them to clear out neutral creatures. :)

By the way, Magic Dragons are worse in that if there is no ranged unit in the army or a Chaos Mage, then you need a larger number of them than Phoenixes to defeat neutral creatures

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!