In your opinion, which faction is the strongest in Heroes 5? Let's discuss the advantages and disadvantages of each faction. — General

A1coho1!c

4/24/2008 2:58 AM UTC

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Humans are practically INVINCIBLE on large maps (IMHO)!!! Tested and proven many times; undead are weak competition for them. Mind Control can be removed either by Purification or Antimagic, and humans' attack power exceeds that of the undead by a factor of 2 or more (again, on large maps). Only elves or orcs can compete with humans.

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Аренгар

4/25/2008 4:42 AM UTC

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People on large maps are practically INVINCIBLE (IMHO)!!!

Prove that they are invincible!:D Without decent magic and a useful super ability. Only the fact that you can only upgrade 7 creatures to the next level once a week, and even then, it costs a fortune!:)
How are they better than other factions?

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shnurov_hl

4/25/2008 4:50 AM UTC

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Arenghar;172361

Prove that they are invincible!:D Without decent magic and a useful super ability. Only the ability to upgrade 7 creatures once a week, and even then, it costs a fortune!:)
How are they better than other factions?

Are you sure it's only 7?

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Lady Revan

4/25/2008 5:05 AM UTC

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I think Humans are the strongest race! The hero levels up in attack and defense, and you can use training, which increases the number of Knights and Archers. If you level up light magic, Antimagic or Purification will save you from Mind Control!
Elves are in 2nd place. Their secret archer works wonders! 250 Dragons with one shot! I was shocked. And Ents have a lot of health. That's why Elves are not so easy to defeat!

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A1coho1!c

4/25/2008 6:11 AM UTC

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2 Arengar: not 7, but 20!!! And light magic is strong enough for humans. =) Plus, humans have the highest attack and defense!!!

Boris K

4/25/2008 7:30 AM UTC

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Even if there were 7, it still wouldn't be very weak. These are level 6 units, after all. Although, when playing against the AI, I usually train monks because they are more useful when attacking a castle. But when playing with friends, our final battles always take place in an open field. However, when I play as Warlocks, I would be happy if one of my friends agreed to wait for me in their castle. When playing as Humans, I try to level up a hero who specializes in training troops (skilled counter-attack, experienced commander, troop gathering). The longer the game lasts, the stronger the army becomes. For Sorceresses, the growth of magical power is limited. The longer the game, the harder it is for the hero to gain new levels.

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Gondar

4/25/2008 8:53 AM UTC

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perhaps humans are not as strong a race as necromancers, but they also have their own advantages, for example, their defense and attack are better than some races. But I think they rely more on numbers and strength than on magic, unlike the Silver Cities. But in some cases, humans will defeat necromancers, and in some cases, necromancers will defeat humans.

С уважением Gondar.:) :) :)
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Майор Вихрь

4/25/2008 12:03 PM UTC

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What are you arguing about? Friends, you're trying to prove an axiom, and at the same time, you manage to even convince each other of something... Of course, Necropolis is the strongest in the late game (when there are secondary towns on the map, it's unlikely anyone can defeat them). Humans are also strong with a huge amount of gold. Dwarves and Stronghold can also perform well in the later stages...

O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.

G.K. Chesterton: English Hymnal

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Аренгар

4/25/2008 12:11 PM UTC

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2 Arengar: not 7, but 20!!! And light magic is strong enough for humans=)
Plus, humans have the highest attack and defense!!!

Yeah, definitely 20. But it's still very expensive. You need a lot of gold! And then you have to upgrade them.
Humans' main skill is defense. And their attack is terrible! :D

Night Elves, on the other hand, have a good attack and magic growth. Under certain conditions, the magic spell "Explosion (Earth Shock)" deals 3000 damage!:D

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El Feroz

4/25/2008 3:17 PM UTC

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Gondar;172414

it might be that humans are not as strong a race as necromancers, but they also have their own advantages, for example, their defense and attack are better than some races. But I think they rely more on numbers and strength than on magic, unlike the Silver Cities. But in some cases, humans will defeat necromancers, and in some cases, necromancers will defeat humans.

It is precisely the necromancers who rely on numbers. Humans can also create a large number of strong units by upgrading them, but this requires huge costs!

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T@mar@

4/25/2008 4:08 PM UTC

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Warlocks... only if you have a lot of troops and a strong hero with an enhanced Earth Shock spell... tactically, I like them – the creature combinations are interesting... I won't even argue about Humans and Necropolis – they are very strong... Elves shouldn't be underestimated either... well, it really depends on how you like to play – with brute force or cunning ;) ...

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<<<Vital>>>

5/1/2008 5:44 PM UTC

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P_U;171132

I can agree with that. Necropolis has many advantages; you can gather a lot of warriors! I like playing as Necromancers! Necromancers will defeat any other faction!

Necromancers are Necromancers, but quantity doesn't always guarantee quality. And no matter how many times I've played, Necropolis has only beaten me ONCE!!! :D :D :D
And why is everyone so fond of them:smile05: ??? If it weren't for the quantity, they wouldn't be anything special!

Я в сумерках проклят и светом и тьмой,
Круг жизни замкнулся - пути нет домой,
В безрадостном мире нет звёзд в небесах,
Мечты обращаются в прах!!!

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Legolas2301

5/2/2008 4:42 PM UTC

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The undead are undead, but quantity doesn't always equal quality. And no matter how many times I've played, Necropolis has only defeated me once! :D :D :D
And why is everyone so obsessed with them? :smile05: If it weren't for their numbers, they wouldn't be anything special!

You're the first person to say that (at least, you're the first I've noticed)... The undead really do have units with weak stats (I'm talking about attack and defense)... Yes, their numbers save them, and quite effectively... But I disagree with one thing... It's not just their numbers that save them; they have quite strong magic... I've noticed... the undead are particularly weak against factions with a combat focus... But that's just my opinion (it doesn't necessarily have to be true)... As for choosing the Necromancer race, I don't see anything wrong with it... Everyone has their own preferences... What's wrong with someone expressing their opinion?
By the way, the undead haven't defeated me very often either... I only got angry with them in the final mission of the "Ranger" campaign.

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Аренгар

5/3/2008 7:45 AM UTC

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The undead are undead, but quantity doesn't always equal quality. And no matter how many times I've played, Necropolis has only let me down ONCE!!! :D :D :D
And why is everyone so obsessed with them? :smile05: If it weren't for their numbers, they wouldn't be anything special!

You're right.
But the races are balanced, and therefore, under certain conditions, one or another becomes stronger. For the undead, there should be many neutral LIVING creatures and ore on the map, and the map should be small. For the Tower, time for development is needed, and a huge map is required. And so on.

P.S. The undead are stronger in the early stages of the game.

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El Feroz;170950

This is a very complex question, and it is impossible to answer it однозначно. If you compare the races in terms of the strength of creatures in general, then the dark elves are in the lead. But the dark elves are the worst for storming cities. And the demons, with their gate opening, are simply great for storming cities! You can block almost all archers and then bring up the main troops to them (while they are fighting the summoned ones). This ensures the least amount of losses compared to other factions. Since storming cities is the main key to victory over the enemy, I voted for the demons!

When storming, I first disable the archers with my own archers and magic; by the way, the meteor shower is applied to an area and damages at least 3 units!

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