The first Offline Tournaments for Heroes 5! — Tournament history (offline)

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VDV_forever

6/7/2006 4:17 AM UTC

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$ PRIZE POOL $

PrizeA:

Licensed DVD-BOX of Heroes of Might and Magic V (with delivery)
Fan t-shirt in your size(XL,L,M,XXL) with the Heroes Of Might And Magic V logo

PrizeB: A profile award (like the one given to respected nprf for winning the 1st Heroes 3 tournament over at HeroesV.net.ru)

PrizeB, [PrizeA(1) or PrizeA(2) {winner's choice}] is awarded to the player who takes first place in the tournament according to the tournament rules.

TOURNAMENT RULES

1. To participate in the first offline tournament, you must register on our website www.heroesworld.ru and also submit an application in this thread
2. The tournament is held on the Russian version of Heroes 5
3. Game version 1.0
4. The submitted save must contain the tournament number (1) and the player's Nickname
example 1_VDV_forever.sav
5. Along with the submitted save, it is mandatory to provide a description of the final step (battle with a hero, battle for a castle, capturing an artifact, defeating the last monster) after which victory occurs, or the walkthrough of the scenario.
6. The submitted save must have only one conqueror hero who performs the final action (others should simply be dismissed).
7. Patches, cheats, codes, mods, as well as additional programs that can change the game structure are FORBIDDEN!
8. Results will be evaluated primarily based on minimum time.
If several players have an equal completion time, the best will be determined by the sum of primary skills (attack, defense, magic, knowledge); if a favorite is still not determined, then by the amount of mercury.
9. The conqueror hero in the submitted save must be without artifacts (they can be placed in the backpack or transferred to another hero who should then be dismissed).
10. Ashi's Tear can only be dug up when the puzzle map is fully opened (this will not happen in this tournament).
11. Send the save to the email address h5_tournament@heroesworld.ru
12. Applications are accepted until June 19, 2006. If you're late, you've missed out
13. In case of suspicion of cheating or other malicious intent during the map completion, a save must be made every game day.
P.S. In such a case (detection of cheating), the player will be required to send additional saves and provide a walkthrough description to determine whether the play was unfair or fair.
The result of a player who played unfairly will be voided and their reputation on our site will be "morale down"!
14. Discussion of the tournament during its progress is FORBIDDEN!!!
(Players violating this rule automatically lose the opportunity to play in the tournament; their results will not be counted and will be annulled).
15. The tournament starts on the 19th and will last for 19 days. Results will be announced 19 days after its conclusion. [You can still apply and participate in the competitions within 5 days after the start of the tournament, i.e., until 00:00 (GMT) 25.06.06]
16. After receiving your save, we will notify you of receipt via your mailbox on our website www.heroesworld.ru

17*. For this tournament:

If you killed the main opponent Gilraen and then completed the following task (killed the last weak hero, captured a castle, or something else) after which absolute victory occurs, the description of the battle with Gilraen MUST be sent together with the save!!! That is, in this case, you will have to provide 2 descriptions (instead of one):
a) battle with Gilraen
b) final winning step

The description should look approximately like this:
Attacking Gilraen with hero Agrail.
Agrail has:
Level N,
army size.
Gilraen has:
Level N,
army size.
And then describe the battle itself.

Tournament Sponsor Respected ADMIN!!!

P.S. I wish all tournament participants a great time gaming and, most importantly, VICTORY!

P.S.S. If there are any additions or remarks, please do not hesitate to speak up to minimize disagreements and shortcomings during the tournament process

PARTICIPANT LIST FOR THE 1st offline HEROES 5 TOURNAMENT!
NUMBER	PLAYER NICKNAME
1	VDV_forever
2	*JOKER*
3	КАНТ
4	Night
5	Борис
6	Vladushka
7	BlazinPimp
8	Dimusik
9	sterh
10	Carmack
11	leshan
12	SandroTM
13	fanat
14	Karatel SS Varjag
15	Aleksandrkalin
16	Diesel
17	Geser
18	Rojok
19	Intruder
20	Halfing
21	DarkOne
22	dontes
23	VaRyG
24	Sablik
25	Supreme
26	Ежик в тумане
27	necko78
28	kop
29	AlexeyPank
30	Faer
31	Paladin
32	gluck
33	Tank 2
34	Philip
35	kazyabr
36	di ps
37	Skeleton Darkknight
38	sjava
39	Evil Hearted
40	GvozD
41	LordOrder7
42	Kiselev Yura
43	Xaker
44	Rogvold
45	mudvaLing
46	BAXtheGREATEST
47	dartRevan
48	shoot-nick
49	KOLb@zzer
50	Svyatoslav
51	Steep
52	Х®одо из Фы®а
53	Ivanuraser
54	Lap1976
55	Strelok
56	Bandit
57	Rean
58	Krivol
58	DeMoN
59	Rustam
60	Varg-Nar
61	Carrion
62	D3lirium
63	vladislav5
64	Krong
65	Illipyk
66	emfoot
67	IronAxe
68	Андрей

This list can be expanded by new participants!
The tournament starts on 19.06.06 (Monday)!!!
Saves will only be considered for players who are in this table, so submit your applications IN ADVANCE!!!

Everything about the starting save

Starting Save

From 19.06.06 the save can be downloaded:
1st mirror
2nd mirror

1. The save that will be posted on our site (19.06.06) must be downloaded and placed on your computer in the following folder C:\Documents and Settings\VDV_forever\My Documents\My Games\Heroes of Might and Magic V\Profiles\VDV_forever\Saves[br][/br]2. Naturally, everyone has their own nickname, so in each individual case it will be approximately: C:\Documents and Settings\X\My Documents\My Games\Heroes of Might and Magic V\Profiles\X\Saves[br][/br>where X is simply the name under which you usually play
3. Load 19.06.06_offline.sav and start playing, making daily saves.
4. After reaching the final action (after which victory occurs), save again.
5. With the final save, describe this last step in detail (most likely a battle); then the results will be tallied faster and there will be fewer suspicions of cheating!!!
6. Send this save to the specified address (in the rules of this tournament).
7. Wait for the results.

The starting save was generated from the "Conquest" map (3rd map) of the standard campaign for the Inferno faction (2nd campaign).

Exactly what you will see when loading the save for the first time:
Diff. level	Hardest (hero)
Hero	Agrail (Demon Lord) Level 12
Stats	Attack-6 Defense-1 Spellpower-4 Knowledge-5
Army	50 Imps 20 Hellhounds 8 Succubi 2 Pit Lords
BUM	Morale = 0 Luck = 0 Mana = 50
Art.	none
Magic	Punishing Strike Create Phantom Stone Skin Ice Bolt Divine Strength
Skills	Basic Gate Opening Advanced Logistics/Pathfinding/Scouting Basic Sorcery/Wisdom Basic Attack/Battle Frenzy Advanced Chaos Magic/Storm Lord
Prof. and Special Skills	Aura of Speed Hellfire
Resources	wood=10 ore=10 mercury=5 crystal=5 sulfur=5 gem=5 gold=5000

PRELIMINARY RESULTS OF THE 1st offline HEROES 5 TOURNAMENT
№	Player Nickname	Number of DAYS	Stats	Amount of MERCURY	AGRAIL Level	Map Description	Battle with Gilraen Description	ScreenShots	Rank
1	Shoot-nick	13	13+1+4+7=25	22	18	Yes	Yes	Yes	???
2	Bandit	15	12+1+4+8=25	4	17	No	Yes	Yes	???
3	Supreme	22	13+1+5+7=26	15	19	Yes	Yes	Yes	???
4	Geser	24	12+3+4+9=28	0	19	Yes	Yes	Yes	???
5	K@lb@zzer	24	12+3+4+7=26	0	18	Yes	Yes	Yes	???
6	DeMoN	26	14+1+4+7=26	11	18	Yes	Yes	Yes	???
7	Iron Axe	28	15+1+6+9=31	21	21	No	No	No	???
8	AlexeyPank	30	13+3+6+7=29	0	19	Yes	Yes	No	???
9	fanat	35	14+1+4+8=27	2	18	No	Yes	No	???
10	VDV_forever	37	14+1+6+8=29	54	20	No	No	No	???
11	Necro78	39	13+1+6+10=30	58	21	Yes	Yes	No	???
12	Sterh	39	12+2+4+7=25	32	18	Yes	Yes	Yes	???
13	Х@од из Фы@а	61	13+2+5+10=30	5	22	Yes	Yes	Yes	???
14	Varg-Nar	96	14+5+9+9=37	80	24	Yes	Yes	No	???
15	Paladin	104	14+5+8+11=38	129	24	No	Yes	Yes	???
16	di_ps	114	14+1+5+7=27	16	19	Yes	Yes	No	???
17	Svyatoslav	137	12+3+7+12=34	67	22	Yes	Yes	No	???
18	Evil_Hearted	230	14+5+9+10=38	171	24	No	Yes	No	???

FINAL RESULTS OF THE 1st offline HEROES 5 TOURNAMENT
№	Player Nickname	Number of DAYS	Stats	Amount of MERCURY	Map Description	Rating	Rank
1	Shoot-nick	13	13+1+4+7=25	22	***	50	???
2	Bandit	15	12+1+4+8=25	4	***	45	???
3	Supreme	22	13+1+5+7=26	15	***	40	???
4	Geser	24	12+3+4+9=28	0	***	36	???
5	K@lb@zzer	24	12+3+4+7=26	0	***	34	???
6	DeMoN	26	14+1+4+7=26	11	***	32	???
7	Iron Axe	28	15+1+6+9=31	21	***	30	???
8	AlexeyPank	30	13+3+6+7=29	0	***	28	???
9	fanat	35	14+1+4+8=27	2	***	26	???
10	VDV_forever	37	14+1+6+8=29	54	***	24	???
11	Necro78	39	13+1+6+10=30	58	***	20	???
12	Sterh	39	12+2+4+7=25	32	***	18	???
13	Х@од из Фы@а	61	13+2+5+10=30	5	***	16	???
14	Varg-Nar	96	14+5+9+9=37	80	***	14	???
15	Paladin	104	14+5+8+11=38	129	***	12	???
16	di_ps	114	14+1+5+7=27	16	***	10	???
17	Svyatoslav	137	12+3+7+12=34	67	***	8	???
18	Evil_Hearted	230	14+5+9+10=38	171	***	6	???

The question marks in the player rank column will be changed to numbers once we come up with a functional rank calculation scheme. Then we will try to get it approved by our respected ADMIN!

The asterisks in the Map Description column will be replaced by numbers when the voting results are tallied!

P.S. See my rank scheme in the corresponding section.

ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE ADMINISTRATION AND MYSELF PERSONALLY, I CONGRATULATE Shoot-nick ON A WELL-DESERVED VICTORY!!!

Sincerely VDV_forever

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VDV_forever

7/3/2006 12:52 PM UTC

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Sorry, of course, the computer crashes on the same day; I was thinking one thing and wrote another :D. Anyway, I've been working hard, and I'm hoping that if they let me take a vacation, I can finally get some proper rest :) Best regards, VDV_forever

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Supreme

7/3/2006 1:03 PM UTC

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VDV_forever

My apologies, of course, the computer attacks on the same day; I was thinking one thing and wrote another :D. Anyway, I've been working hard, and I think if they let me take a vacation, I can finally get some proper rest :) Sincerely, VDV_forever

So, which day is considered the victory? The Nth day :rolleyes: or the N+1th day :( It's important to me because that's how I finished the mission. I would like to receive a clear, official answer :) With equal respect, Supreme!

Supreme
Shadow Master - Clan Leader

Стань лучше и сам пойми, кто ты, прежде чем встретишь нового человека и будешь надеятся, что он тебя поймет. (с)

Элистион - 3-е место в Расовом Вопросе!

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VDV_forever

7/3/2006 1:27 PM UTC

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Supreme

So, which day is considered the day of victory? The Nth day :rolleyes: or the N+1th day? This is important to me because that's exactly how I finished the mission. I would like to receive a clear, official answer.

With equal respect, Supreme!

Of course, it's the Nth day, because the computer makes its move on that same day!!!

With respect, VDV_forever

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VDV_forever

7/3/2006 1:36 PM UTC

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First accepted saves:)

AlexeyPank save + map walkthrough description + battle description with Gilraen

fanat save + map walkthrough description + battle description with Gilraen

necro78 save + battle description with Gilraen + last turn with auto-battle

Evil_Hearted save + auto-battle

The remaining saves are being carefully checked

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Supreme

7/3/2006 2:26 PM UTC

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VDV_forever

First valid saves :)
AlexeyPank save + description of the map walkthrough + description of the battle with Gilraen

Regarding that Nth day, that's good :) I'll send my save now. What is the status of the map walkthrough description (mandatory, desirable, not mandatory)? I couldn't find this point in the contest rules...

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VDV_forever

7/3/2006 2:34 PM UTC

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Supreme

That's a good point about the Nth day :) Okay, I'll send my save file now. And what's the status of the map walkthrough description (mandatory, desirable, not necessary)? I couldn't find this point in the contest rules...

Desirable;
If there's a good description, it takes less time to check.
Also, there are fewer suspicions of cheating with an excellent walkthrough.;)

P.S. I'm also thinking about the topic "Best walkthrough descriptions for tournament maps";)

Sincerely, VDV_forever

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VDV_forever

7/3/2006 2:42 PM UTC

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So, we also received saves from:

Svyatoslav (1_Svyatoslav.sav)
Sterh (39_Sterh9.sav)
DeMoN (1_DeMoN.sav)

and they will be reviewed very soon.

P.S. There is less than a week left, so dear players, hurry up:)

Best regards, VDV_forever

sterh

7/4/2006 2:06 AM UTC

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Damn, the last time I read the first post in this thread, it seemed to say something different about the first numbers in the save file!

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Lap1976

7/4/2006 10:15 AM UTC

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sterh

Dude, the last time I read the first post of this thread, it seemed to say something different about the first numbers in the save file!

That's absolutely right. It was the participant's number in the list of participants, not the tournament number. Good thing you pointed it out, otherwise I would have sent it with my number from the list.

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IronAxe

7/4/2006 11:48 AM UTC

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VDV_forever

Naturally the N-th, because the computer moves on that same day!!!

Respectfully, VDV_forever

However, it's probably not all that simple? What difference does it make which turn order the computer has. In any case, if the computer itself triggers the final battle, it means the player didn't have enough moves on their own turn to attack. In this case, the player simply exploits the lack of brains in the AI. Instead of retreating, it attacks.
Well, overall, it's not fundamental. I just haven't had time to play through a single map in Heroes V yet, so I don't know what happens after the final battle if the computer was the initiator?
Does the day change and minerals get credited? Or what—is it an immediate happy end and no minerals are credited?

sablik

7/4/2006 12:31 PM UTC

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hello everyone.
well, what a mess... I signed up for the tournament and ended up in the hospital.
I just got out. I'll be following the results and cheering for the winner...

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VDV_forever

7/4/2006 1:04 PM UTC

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IronAxe

However, isn't it more complicated than that? What difference does it make which turn the computer goes? In any case, if the computer initiates the final battle, it means the player didn't have enough moves to attack on their turn. In this case, the player simply exploits the computer's lack of intelligence. Instead of retreating, it attacks.

Well, not always. But if, for example, the computer is in a hopeless situation and has no Castles left, then it is simply forced to attack you in order to capture at least one Castle and thus temporarily protect itself from defeat (temporarily, of course :D).

And secondly:
The computer knows it is stronger and boldly attacks. And here everything depends on the tactics and strategy of the defender. It's either win or lose, as they say.

IronAxe

Well, basically, it's not that important. I just haven't had time to play a single map in the fifth game yet, so I don't know what happens after the final battle if the computer initiated it?
Does the day change, and are minerals awarded? Or what - is there an immediate happy end, and no minerals are awarded?

Of course, there is an immediate happy end, and no minerals are awarded :)

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VDV_forever

7/4/2006 1:11 PM UTC

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Also, accepted save files:

Sterh - save file + description of the battle with Gilraen (+screenshot) + description of the final battle

The remaining save files are being carefully checked.

Sincerely, VDV_forever

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VDV_forever

7/4/2006 1:18 PM UTC

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Lap1976

That's absolutely correct. It was the participant number in the list of participants, not the tournament number. Good thing you pointed it out, otherwise I would have submitted it with my number from the list.

No, it actually refers to the tournament number;

4. The submitted save file must contain the tournament number (1) and the player's nickname.
Example: 1_VDV_forever.sav

Sincerely, VDV_forever

Bandit

7/5/2006 9:03 AM UTC

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I've sent the save, description, and screenshots. Waiting for confirmation of receipt. Thanks.

Added after 3 minutes
A thought regarding prizes — a certificate (sent to the winner's email) could be used as a prize, which could then be hung on a wall. And given for 1st-3rd place.

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IronAxe wrote - "However, it's probably not that simple? What difference does it make which turn the computer takes. In any case, if the computer itself ends up in the final battle, it means the player didn't have enough moves on their own turn to attack. In this case, the player simply exploits the lack of brains of the AI player. Instead of running away, it attacks.
Well, overall, it's not fundamental."

I fully support IronAxe. For me, this isn't critical on this particular map, but I believe that when calculating results, the advantage should go to the person who managed to get everything done on their own turn.