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In the global view, the game should be about rushing, especially on large maps, because you can't give the Necromancer time to systematically eliminate neutral creatures. Moreover, once he has gathered enough skeletons, he will sweep through the utopias and won't even be slowed down – then it becomes almost impossible to kill him. As for the specific battle, the focus is on tactical skill and having ranged units to eliminate the skeletons. Therefore, various slowing effects, static shields, and quicksand are welcome. Ideally, you defend with a tower that has 3 ranged units and strong magic. Regarding liches: they are simply blocked either by gargoyles or djinn, even at the expense of the latter, and in one round, all ranged units eliminate them. After that, the crowd of archers and their protection can only be countered by a meteor shower. The same barbarian can also play a great defensive game. In principle, the problem with liches can be solved with a single Implosion spell, and then the entire tactic is built around defense. In rare cases, for example, if the barbarian has the Tactics skill and Expert Speed, he can eliminate the skeletons in one round, as having an advantage in combat stats, the barbarian can easily handle the rest of the army
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I agree that Black Knights and Vampire Lords are strong, but their strength can be countered by your own strength. A good example of this can be seen with dragons (if two monsters are standing next to each other, and one of them is yours, the dragons will attack both). In a similar situation, Berserk magic works.
Добро потеряешь - не много потеряешь,
честь потеряешь - много потеряешь,
мужество потеряешь - все потеряешь.
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Berserk magic against Necropolis? That's something new... If I remember correctly, many spells, such as blessing, curse, joy, sorrow, and berserk, don't affect the undead. If there are only two creatures in the army (vampires and Dark Knights), you can't just blow them away with a dragon right away, and you need to position the creatures correctly when attacking, not side by side...
СМЕРТЬ ПОПСЕ!:smile10:
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And what if you attack a Castle with Black Knights and Vampires? Okay, the Vampires will fly over, and the Knights won't enter until a ballista breaks down the wall or until you create a teleport. And the Vampires behind the wall will be quickly killed (unless you have a legion of them there). However, the outcome of the battle is still uncertain.
Добро потеряешь - не много потеряешь,
честь потеряешь - много потеряешь,
мужество потеряешь - все потеряешь.
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Berserk magic against Necropolis?
Yes. And what about it? The black orb hasn't been cancelled!
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So, does that mean you can apply Berserk to Necropolis units? For example, in a battle, if you have two Archdevils, 10 Vampires, and 10 Death Knights, you apply Berserk to the Death Knights and then use the Archdevils to fly around the battlefield. Vampires move slower than Devils, and Death Knights move faster than Vampires. By the end of the battle, there will be about 4 of each left. And then, with a bit of skill, no cheating is needed!
Добро потеряешь - не много потеряешь,
честь потеряешь - много потеряешь,
мужество потеряешь - все потеряешь.
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Arseniy;170918
So, does that mean you can apply Berserk to Necropolis units? For example, in a battle, if you have two Archdevils, 10 Vampires, and 10 Death Knights, you apply Berserk to the Death Knights and then use the Archdevils to fly around the battlefield. Vampires move slower than Devils, and Death Knights move faster than Vampires. By the end of the battle, there will be about 4 of each left. And then, with a bit of skill, there's no cheating involved!!!
That's all well and good, but in contrast to the black ball, your opponent will have a red one :p
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Forsaken;47624
Against Necropolis, you definitely need good morale, and luck wouldn't hurt. Speed, and again, speed! Plus, good offensive spells are essential, especially on expert difficulty. Don't forget about slowing. You can and should use Berserk. As for who to use it on, that depends on the situation. I think Blind is useful. Of course, Conflux and Tower are strong against undead. But if the Necromancer has the King's Robe and Cursed Armor (which is quite easy to get on large maps), then it's a tough fight...
Everything is mixed up, everything is wrong = loss.
AlexeyPank;47887
Humans have an advantage when playing against Necromancers: diplomacy + leadership. I've experienced it firsthand. When 500 griffins join the humans, it's a terrifying thing. And they weren't the only ones.
Where do you get these numbers from? The game ends much faster.
Pablo N Ochoa;48381
It's difficult to fight against Undead... But they also have weaknesses; almost half of the beneficial spells don't affect them... Then there's special magic against them, only one archer, and the Dragon is completely useless, so only Vampires and Liches save the undead. But I fight them with the Tower, there are many archers and they are strong, and I use Golems in battle: 1-armor, 2-magic resistance, 3-vampires can't bite them, and of course, magic. Otherwise, they aren't that strong if you fight them skillfully and tactically...
This is good advice.
Darth Saruman;48544
If Necromancers had Black Knights again, things would be different...:rolleyes:
What happened to them?
AlexeyPank;48842
But the iron units are too slow. And against Necromancers, speed plays a very big role. Therefore, it's best to take fast units so that you can end the battle in your first turn. Or inflict decisive damage.
How is that even possible?
AlexeyPank;48861
And Dungeon is also effective. Dark Hunters, flying Manticores, Minotaurs with good morale, immune Harpies, and two squads of archers. Plus, doubled mana and the ability to buy back creatures from external dwellings. A very powerful town against Necropolis. But they have little health (except for Dark Hunters) - vampires can seriously damage them. Therefore, the first thing to do is hit the vampires.
+1 You have to approach while the skeletons are being shot down, the vampires are damaged by magic + harpies.
Geksorin;48863
Well, if you judge by morale and luck, then Stronghold is also very strong against Necropolis due to its attack power, and the bears that can be sent against vampires and skeletons, and Ogres are very strong on their own!
I think it's very difficult to play with this castle against Necropolis. At least, they don't bother me as much as the Tower or Dungeon. We don't play with Conflux.
Darth Saruman;48868
In my opinion, Castle is also good against Necropolis! When there are many halberdiers and crossbowmen, as well as crusaders and champions, then you can give the undead a beating! Archangels with resurrection also help!
A bunch of meat for vampires :)
Darth Saruman;49206
Against Necropolis, Stronghold and Tower are also good! With the Tower, I used archers, nagas, and golems to slaughter the undead, and with Stronghold, I took them with numbers and strength!
And in general, the computer just pumps up Necropolis!:mad:
Are you taking into account playing against the computer???? Why?:) You can beat them in any way, without even trying.
AmberSoler;49789
Can it be aged? It has immunity to magic...
Dark Hunters can be aged. You can age almost anything. As far as I know, but it's so rare that I might be wrong :)
Blondie;89645
I usually played against Necropolis with two heroes, the first got undead troops, its main task was to destroy the vampires, then the second hero attacked with striking power.

Losing vampires, even in a winning battle, demoralizes any Necromancer.
Okay, I'm tired of commenting :)
With this tactic, you would give me a 100% victory. Voluntary division of the army :) Unheard of generosity.
And in my opinion, two things are very effective.
1. Destroying the main forces: skeletons, vampires (with magic, archers that attack without provocation).
2. This is what the player does. While the Necromancer is gathering meat.
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To avoid cluttering the forum with such topics, I'll ask here: Which castle is easiest to use to defeat Necropolis (when playing against a person with a very high IQ), preferably without suggesting Necropolis itself.
Одна древняя легенда гласит,
Что темный дракон весь мир покорит,
Темный дракон - безликая тень,
Теперь навсегда ночь сменит день.
Он свергнет всех местных Богов,
Ни сила, ни воля не сдержат его.
Рыцарь, король - все одно для него,
С ним в битве исчезнет и зло, и добро.

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If you had read it, you would know the answer. But since you're too lazy, I'll tell you: on small to medium-sized maps, Orcs, Elves, or even Castle can be effective. Otherwise, Tower, Dungeon, or Conflux.
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I think two tactics would work:
1) Corral the archers in a corner and defend. A Castle and a Rampart would probably be suitable here. It's necessary to have the Tactics skill, and ideally, the Necromancer shouldn't have teleportation.
2) Kill the skeletons in the first turn. Only Crag Hack can help with his mega-damage. I tried it myself – it worked once. You also need a lot of Haste and the Tactics skill. And the final battle shouldn't be sooner than a month.
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It's always interesting to read quotes from people who only play against the computer, about "how to play," whether it's against Necropolis or some other faction. Well, it might be nonsense, but it comes from the heart. But all the techies... yeah... And the people who actually play (and have experience), online players, and even strong offline players, only write a few things. It's a shame! It would be better if some of the strong players shared how to take Utopia on the 2nd week, what skills, units, formation, layout, etc., using Necropolis or another faction, instead of writing such nonsense... it's sad to read.
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За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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Offline El Magnifico Sonic`
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Lider1 +1, for online players – it provides almost no useful information!!!
Although this resource is not only for online players but also for those who play against the computer to earn points!!!
Лечиться даром - даром лечиться!!!:smile16:
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Against the undead, use the "Cleanse" spell. Maybe you'll manage to do it before the Liches shoot everyone down. Hehe.
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Lider1;194702
It would be great if one of the strong players shared how to take Utopia on the 2nd week, what skills, units, setup, layout, etc., to use, with Necropolis or another faction.

You need to dig deeper and not be lazy. There is information about your question on this forum.

I can repeat it with Necropolis on the second week.
Galtan with 500 warrior skeletons. Advanced Haste on skeletons or Shield of Skin. The rest of the stacks are decoys. We put them in the 1st stack. With Haste, they will be faster than the right-hand dragons, and Shield of Skin will strengthen them. The dragons will not attack the skeletons if there is a living decoy. If they don't start playing for a victory. For example, maxed Utopia, and you have a weak hero.
It is also possible to have Undead Regeneration, which simplifies the task.
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