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Dude, if I start talking about my dreams here, everyone will commit suicide... And catch and Loken are right, people think about what they want to think about, that's how their consciousness works. I've had a lot of dreams, both good and bad, and most of them came true, but I didn't tell anyone (who would believe this nonsense?), maybe it's a coincidence, or maybe not... Few people can understand this. Advice: If God doesn't help, then He doesn't exist... If there is no God, then there can't be a Satan either... it's simple logic.
Есть свет и тьма, Добро и зло, Есть сила и власть, И много всего Но знай ты одно, Что все это чушь, И лишь без любви Не проживешь ты и дня..
You're right about everything, but you're not taking one thing into account: the lady wants to attract attention to herself, to emphasize her uniqueness :) This is quite normal :) Or maybe it's not normal, but it happens very often in life :) By the way, those who are privy to another side, those who are initiated into what is inaccessible to others, usually remain silent. They don't need to tell everyone they meet about it; what's the point? If other forces are aware of it. Moreover, these forces don't always like it when others talk about them ;)
How foolish you are! Demons laugh at you, and angels weep for you. I don't need to stand out with this; I'm already bright enough. I just wanted to draw people's attention to this topic because I'm interested in it, I'm interested in opinions, and I wanted to compare them with my own dreams. By the way, if you don't know about these things, you shouldn't even talk about them. There are special people who spread all this. I'm not a spreader, and I don't need your attention. And these forces, you unenlightened atheist, are only revealed to those who want to know them, not to people like you, who live for their own pleasure and don't need to know anything else. You know what? I can even imagine your thoughts... I sincerely pity you. I still think that there will be people who are also interested in this topic.
Added after 3 minutes TonyMontana;163453
Advice: If God doesn't help, then He doesn't exist... If there is no God, then there can't be a Satan... simple logic.
I have only one answer to this: Only those who want it will be saved; the others will become food for demons... By the way, non-believers are neither fish nor fowl to them; they are tasteless.
Dude, if I start talking about my dreams here, everyone will commit suicide... And catch and Loken are right, people think about what they want to think about, that's what their consciousness is.
Ha! Interesting, why are you lying so much? Here you write that dreams are just empty fantasies of the imagination, even if they sometimes come true, but what did you write to me in a private message? Sorry, I don't communicate with liars. I knew that they would say nasty things to me, but to this extent, and then to say the opposite... no, I think I started this topic for nothing. And now I'm not so much upset that I wasn't understood, but because people are shamelessly lying here...
Oh, sorry, I see it now... we were writing at the same time.
In my relatively short life, which you called "doing it for fun," there was a period when I sincerely believed in God (but not Satan).
I read a lot of books, including the Bible... But I didn't find any of these wild phrases about demons anywhere...
Again... the whole story is based on facts; there was no place for God in history; everything was explained in a simple, everyday way...
I can't write everything now; I'll come back and answer in more detail.
Added after 53 seconds
Well, basically, that's what I thought...
Есть свет и тьма, Добро и зло, Есть сила и власть, И много всего Но знай ты одно, Что все это чушь, И лишь без любви Не проживешь ты и дня..
In my relatively short life, which you called "lived for pleasure," there was a period when I sincerely believed in God (not Satan). I read many books, including the Bible... But I didn't find these wild phrases about demons anywhere... Again, the whole story is based on facts; there was no place for God in history; everything was explained in a simple, everyday way.
Because you haven't read enough and were probably expecting handouts from God. You just need to sincerely believe in Him, and He will help you. Maybe He already helped you, but you didn't even notice. Read the Psalms of Ephrem the Syrian; everything is simple and brilliant there, even the most "gifted" will understand. And you wanted modern scientific concepts in the Bible? You don't know history very well... And, of course, you won't find such phrases in the Bible. But any demon will tell you that...
Oh, sorry, I see it now... we were writing at the same time. In my relatively short life, which you called "enjoying it," there was a period when I sincerely believed in God (not Satan). I read a lot of books, including the Bible... But I didn't find these wild phrases about demons anywhere... Again... the whole story is based on facts; there was no place for God in history; everything was explained in a simple, everyday way... I can't write everything now; I'll come back and answer in more detail.
Added after 53 seconds Well, basically, that's what I thought...
Aga, aga... "There is no evil, there is no good, there is only MAN - the CROWN of EVERYTHING!"... And once again about FAITH, RELIGION, and the HOLY SCRIPTURES: "The temple of the righteous is built not of stone and gold, but of his flesh and blood"...
"Мы не герои. Мы сильны. Мы упрямы. Мы стараемся соблюдать условия контракта. Но мы не умираем за проигравших." Костоправ
"Мы не поклонники честной игры, если ее можно избежать. Девиз Отряда – максимальная эффективность при минимальном риске." Костоправ
You're absolutely right, but you're overlooking one thing: the lady wants to attract attention to herself, to emphasize her uniqueness. This is perfectly normal.
Well, I had a similar thought, but I didn't dare to express it.
You know what, I can even imagine what you're thinking... I sincerely feel sorry for you.
Despite all my respect (and this is not hypocrisy), Lelya, you can hardly imagine what I'm thinking, at the very least. A person doesn't fully reveal themselves to others, even on a forum where no one knows anyone personally. But it is quite possible to imagine the mindset of the average consumer.
I knew I would be told nasty things.
Take it easy, no nasty things were said here. People are just criticizing your "theory," and you're getting upset about it.
Others will become food for demons... Yes, by the way, non-believers are neither fish nor fowl for them, they are tasteless.
Well, at least the cursed warpspawn won't get any pleasure from eating atheists. :)
And regarding another argument about faith... you know... I had a certain period. I used to believe in it too. I would sometimes pray. Well, in a simple way... I was little, I didn't even hold an "Our Father" in my hands. So, it was like that... because if it existed, it wouldn't care whether people use a formula to help them or just ask, right? It's not a spell that needs to be memorized. Otherwise, it leads to paganism... So. Sometimes I would think with horror that it was angry with me if I, for example, didn't do something. In moments of need, I would appeal to it, like, "if you help, I will do all my homework and clean my room," and so on, childish. When my mother lit a candle for the deceased mother and father (my grandparents), I felt that it might somehow help... because my mother said that it was right. But... nothing, except for a slight irritation at the scattered leftovers on the plates (like, let the deceased eat, it's a Christian ritual), I felt. ...when she put crosses on the doorframes on a certain day of the year, supposedly to ward off spirits, I felt silly. I was baptized as a baby. I almost never wore a cross. I put it on a couple of times a day at school, it was like a status symbol to wear a cross... but then I would forget about it. Sometimes I would take it in my hands and try to discern its "holiness." But I saw just a worn, slightly bent cross-shaped piece of aluminum with the inscription "save and protect" and a primitive engraving. A couple of times, at my mother's urging, I lit a candle for relatives. And nothing. I just lit a candle. A thin one. Sometimes I would forget about God or gods, but in need, of course, I would turn to him for help. A minute after the "request," I felt a little better. I felt that an unknown force, the great and terrible God, would tear himself away from his divine affairs and do something for me. Or, with a wave of an incorporeal hand, he would help me in need. Nothing but self-deception happened. I didn't really expect anything, but I continued to believe. I even sometimes felt guilty if I swore, because it was a sin. Of course, in moments of absolute despair, I, like everyone else, had thoughts of suicide. But I thought that even thinking about it was a terrible sin. I sometimes thought about heaven and hell, weighing my actions, guessing where I would end up after death. Sometimes I even had a funny thought - to do a lot of good, and then "accidentally" die, and quickly get to heaven, and live there happily ever after until the second coming. But, of course, these were just funny thoughts, smelling of foolishness. My "faith" was decreasing... I have been to temples, churches, monasteries, and other synagogues in different cities, and everywhere I saw the same thing. People. A crowd of stupid people performing primitive rituals. Kissing some dirty display case with icons. Sweeping the floor with their clothes, bowing to the same icons. Lighting tiny stubs, even candle remnants in a collective candlestick. With rapture and dropped jaws, listening to the incoherent speech of a fat preacher (a good life for the clergy) who gesticulates and makes nonsensical passes with a book and a staff. I tried. I tried to feel the holiness. I tried to feel the faith. I... tried to believe. To join in. I believed in hell and heaven, but I didn't believe in gods. I observed a souvenir stall (despicable merchants in a holy chapel?) in each such "establishment." In which a stupid crowd spent a lot of money on "original writings" and "ancient icons," for "holy candles" and "a bottle of holy water"... I even saw a sale of video cassettes. I still remember this. The film "Brother Pavel." On the cover - a priest with an ultrasound machine, explosions behind him. And the inscription "He will protect the faith." Is this your God? Is this your hope, support, and salvation? In my opinion, this is just an effective organization that controls the minds and wallets of citizens. "Donations for the construction of a temple." Why doesn't the state sanction the flow of funds to such an important industry? Exactly. And I tried, yes, I really did. But... nothing. I only felt disappointment.
...a lot of time has passed since then... I have thought a lot about religion... I compared... I assumed... believe me, I came to the denial of gods as a result of long and thorough observations and reflections. And even a whole crowd of theology students will not convince me. I only "believe" in an Emperor I invented 20 years ago, and I periodically play this role on the Internet, or just for fun with friends. In principle, is there no limit to what one can believe in? Right? I also believe in justice. I have my own moral principles and ideas about good and evil. I consider it my duty to eradicate evil in every possible way - whether by word or advice, or by action - for example, by helping or providing support. But... In reality, I am a radically minded atheist. Maybe even a heretic, because I feel contempt for fat pastors who profit from us, the common people. And I consider myself completely right. This is my story. I told it to show, by personal example, that an atheist is not a stubborn idiot, that he has his own reasons for not believing, which must be respected.
How foolish you are! Demons laugh at you, angels weep for you. I don't need to stand out with this, I'm already bright enough. I just wanted to draw people's attention to this topic because I'm interested in it, I'm interested in opinions, and I wanted to compare them with my own dreams. By the way, if you don't know about these things, you shouldn't even talk about them. There are special people who spread all this. I'm not a spreader, and I don't need your attention. And these forces, you unenlightened atheist, are only revealed to those who want to know them, not to people like you who live for their own pleasure and don't need to know anything else. You know what, I can even imagine your thoughts... I sincerely feel sorry for you. I still think that there will be people who are also interested in this topic.
Well, it's not up to you, lady, to judge what I know and what I don't. You also have no reason to call me an atheist :) And you can't imagine my thoughts ;) More precisely, you can imagine anything, even the Antichrist marrying you in the Cathedral of Christ the Savior :) But you can't know a person's thoughts for sure ;) Lelya;163462
I knew I would be told nasty things, but to this extent... no, I think I started this topic in vain.
Lady, no one is saying anything nasty to you. Believe me, if you don't insist and talk and think about your exclusivity, about the fact that you are chosen, that the Antichrist has revealed himself to you, then your life will become much easier :) Believe me, in my life I have met many people with all sorts of quirks. Some even claimed that they were the Antichrist. And they gave such arguments in favor of this that it was amazing. And I see these people now. In life, they have not achieved anything, some have sunk even lower. This is what detachment from reality and an unfounded belief in one's own exclusivity leads to. It can be said that Satan has achieved complete victory over them. After all, the belief that you are above other people and even, perhaps, equal to Christ, Satan, some gods, is one of the temptations by which the Devil can lead a person astray from his life path. Therefore, I advise you, lady, to forget about your dreams and just continue to live. You are still young, you still have everything ahead of you. Don't repeat the life mistakes of others. And believe me, no Antichrist will come to you personally ;) Loken;163497
well, I also had that thought, but I didn't dare to say it.
Okay, I'm back... now I'll say everything I've been thinking. First of all, I'm annoyed by phrases like "godless," "fire hyena," and "may demons devour you." You've probably played Hammers of Fate too much, focusing on Biara Laslo and Alaric... Secondly... you say I don't know history? Religion has always been a scam. There are still debates about whether Jesus was truly righteous or just pulled off a world-scale hoax! The Crusades weren't about Jews stealing the Lord's tomb, but about profiting from and acquiring the wealth of the East... Look at our time! In the church in my city, truly believing people give their last pennies to "servants of God," and then we wonder where the priests and monks get their 15,000-dollar phones and gas pistols! I see that you're just stubborn and have only one answer: liar, fool, godless. How interesting, with that attitude, how do you "listen" to the opinions of others?
P.S. For your information: a private message is a personal message, and I still don't believe in dreams and consider them just coincidences; it wasn't hard to see that if you had read my ENTIRE post.
Added 3 minutes later Another thing: if anyone has heard, the eighth deadly sin has been introduced. Selling drugs, weapons, etc., is punishable by death
Есть свет и тьма, Добро и зло, Есть сила и власть, И много всего Но знай ты одно, Что все это чушь, И лишь без любви Не проживешь ты и дня..
Lelya, why are you starting this again? It’s been clear for a long time that no one here can prove anything to anyone about religion. Can you explain to me why atheists are stupid? Because they don’t see God? Or maybe it’s the opposite, and atheists are smart because they see that He doesn’t exist? Why start this? After all, none of the atheists participating in the discussion said that believers are stupid.
Step aside from the way of a better man than you So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you Its the servants devotion for the decay Stand up
1. And you cannot possibly imagine my thoughts ;) Or rather, you can imagine anything you like, even the Antichrist marrying you in the Temple of Christ the Savior :) But as for knowing a person's thoughts for certain, that is not granted to you ;)
2. Believe me, if you stop being stubborn and stop talking and thinking about your own exceptionalism, about how you are the chosen one because the Antichrist revealed his face to you, your life will become much easier :)
3. Believe me, in my life I have met many people with all sorts of quirks. Some even claimed that they were the Antichrist. And they provided arguments in favor of this that would make your head spin. And I see those people now. They achieved nothing in life; some have sunk below rock bottom. This is what happens when you detach from reality and have an unfounded belief in your own exceptionalism.
4. One could say that Satan won a complete victory over them. After all, the belief that you are above other people and perhaps even equal to Christ, Satan, or some gods, is one of the temptations the Devil can use to knock a person off their life path.
5. Therefore, I advise you, lady, to forget about your dreams and simply continue living. You are still young; you have everything ahead of you. There is no need to repeat the life mistakes of others.
6. And believe me, no Antichrist is certainly coming to you personally ;)
1. Oh, I can imagine, and I'm not taking the "average consumer" as Loki put it, but an individuality. Sorry, but one does not joke about this. Take such conclusions to your "average consumers" of the female gender... 2. Firstly, I am not being stubborn and I am not saying that I am some chosen messiah. Secondly, he didn't appear only to me; now I communicate with 2 people (who are my best friends) who also dreamed of him and, believe it or not, they would never have told me about it if I hadn't pushed them... And no, it's not what you thought; they are by no means laughing at me or playing along. 3. Such people (who pass themselves off as some demon or other foul creature) earn themselves a terrible fate; either they were servants and were punished by their own lord for some small offense or for no reason at all... In any case, you've seen this for yourself... I didn't say that I was some Lilith or something else. And no, I am not detaching from "realities"; religion does not interfere with my life, it helps me. And again, no: I am not falling, but on the contrary, I live well, I get "5s" and "4s" in school, and I am respected by both classmates and teachers. Perhaps your acquaintances became too proud, too vain, declaring themselves princes of this world, but as is known from the history of Lucifer, such gentlemen can only end in one way: falling lower than the lowest... 4. I repeat, look above, I wrote nowhere that I am a new prophet or one of Lucifer's twenty thousand wives who will punish you for disobedience... No, I know perfectly well that I am a human, but an individual, a personality, just as you all are. Yes, this temptation happens every moment, my dear, if you didn't know that, and not only in this, but in everything—from a nasty little thought about a new neighbor to suicide. 5. Gentleman, you should not tell a lady how to live, and a lady will live as she wishes and make as many of HER OWN mistakes as necessary. 6. I sincerely hope so. And I wish that you never meet him.:)
Added after 5 minutes TonyMontana;163550
I see that you've just dug your heels in and you have only one answer—liar, fool, atheist. How interesting; with such an attitude, how do you "listen" to the opinions of others?
Fine, let it be so. Only you don't notice anything about yourself, do you???:) And you should... Imagine, I do listen to the opinions of others. Strange, right? But that's how the attitude becomes...
Added after 25 minutes My apologies to TonyMontana for the "liar" and the PM. I confused you with someone else, sorry.
Hmm... I don't believe in such things. The reason is that I was at the sea in 2002. I met a guy there, about 3 years older than me. We drank some beer, talked, and he told me that once, in a dream (which was very similar to reality), he entered his room and saw that Satan (the Devil) was lying on the sofa. Well, the guy was smart, and Satan could do a lot of not-so-good things to you – so he immediately hid under the table. Satan didn't notice (or maybe he did, but didn't show it), stood up, and disappeared as if through the ground. The friend was very scared and sat there for another 5-10 minutes just in case. Then a voice from the sky spoke – not in Russian, but he understood – it said that the apocalypse would happen in 4 years, in 2006.
I don't think I need to explain anything.
Хороший сон укрепляет боевой дух. Хорошая еда укрепляет боевой дух. Хорошие деньги укрепляют боевой дух. А больше всего укрепляет боевой дух - отсутствие врага.
Hmm... I don't believe in such things. The reason is that I was at the sea in 2002. I met a guy there, about 3 years older than me. We had some beer, talked, and he told me that once, in a dream (which was very similar to reality), he entered his room and saw that Satan himself was lying on the sofa. Well, the guy was quite intelligent, and Satan could do a lot of not-so-good things to you, so he immediately hid under the table. Satan didn't seem to notice (or maybe he did, but didn't show it), stood up, and disappeared as if he had fallen through the ground. The guy was very scared and sat there for another 5-10 minutes just in case. Then a voice from the sky spoke – it wasn't in Russian, but he understood – it said that the apocalypse would happen in 4 years, in 2006.
Firstly, demons lie, and secondly, they don't know anything themselves, not even their own Satan. Of course, they can tell the truth, but only when it benefits them. Well... but in 2006 it began. And no one knows for sure when it will end.