Assembled artifacts in Heroes of Might and Magic V. — General

Mos.keen

18 years ago

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To be honest, my friend and I tried to collect all the artifacts and test their compatibility on an incredibly challenging map (we played mage against undead, and the map had mentors, so we tried all possible hero build options). We found that the Sar-Isa wasn't very effective for mages in the end; it became useless. The dragon is, of course, overpowered, but we didn't use it to avoid creating imbalance with level 7 units. The Necromancer's Cloak is simply amazing, especially for undead. The Urgash's Will is also overpowered; it's easy to acquire and is an incredibly good item for infernals (I used it in another game, and it helped a lot). The bow is an excellent item (no further comment), especially with 30% initiative. The dwarven item is also very good; it took us a long time to figure out how to counter it with undead! I didn't use anything else. I also want to talk about some straightforward artifacts, like the Crown of Leadership and the Amulet of Superiority (I think that's what it's called, the one that gives the hero a 4th-level skill). The Crown of Leadership is just... well, it's amazing. We found Leadership and the Crown for the undead, and it created complete chaos for the opponent. The Amulet is also very good. So, composite artifacts aren't always the best, and you can find excellent single artifacts (in my opinion)

ValgallaWolf

18 years ago

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The coolest thing is that you don't even have to collect them all! For example, I collected 2 Arantir artifacts in the campaign, and the Banshee's Cry was so enhanced that I didn't need the other two artifacts, or even the Cry of Terror. I don't know how it works with other sets, but in the Dragon set, you get +1 to the hero's stats and something else for just 2 items – is that bad?

P.S. Later, I found the Necromancer's Amulet (along with a cloak and something else) for Arantir, but I couldn't find the staff (I searched all the shops and Utopia) – where did they hide it?

By the way, I had this weird thing happen: I leveled up the Cry of Terror, and I had a half-set of Necropolis items (2 items). The Cry of Terror refused to work even after I took off those 2 items. Is this a bug?

P.P.S. That is, the Banshee's Cry remained as if I had a full set all the time (even after I got the Cry of Terror and removed the artifacts)!

_Prizrak_

18 years ago

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message from Mos.keen: I've been fighting against her for a long time... my brain is turning into undead!!,

fix it, otherwise they'll give you a warning or even ban you...

so, the "Cry of Horror" skill stopped working even after I removed these 2 items... Is this a bug?

I didn't have the exact same issue, but something similar happened:
So, I equipped 6 dragon artifacts on my hero, then removed one, but the stats (+4 to parameters) remained, it's a miracle ;):)

Не герой

18 years ago

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I was playing in a company, and for Arantir, I completed all but the last mission, fully collecting the Will of Urgash and the Embrace of Death.
This gives +4 to morale, -2 to luck, -20% to initiative, -1 to speed, and -20% to the defense and attack of a unit whose morale has dropped.
And for Necropolis, the cost of raising troops is 25% lower, and there's a +5 bonus to attack.

Regarding the neutral creatures, there was a real massacre, even without the Banshee's scream.
The enemy heroes put up a bit of a fight, but not much.
If I had upgraded the Scream of Terror, the game would have become even less interesting.

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Mefisto

18 years ago

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I love the combined art of the Death Embrace! But unfortunately, I couldn't collect the complete set in the game, although I managed to collect 3 out of 4 pieces.

_Prizrak_

18 years ago

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I love the Death Embrace artifact set! But unfortunately, I couldn't collect the complete set in the game, although I managed to collect 3 out of 4 pieces.

If artifacts were easy to collect, there wouldn't be any fun in playing...

All artifacts drop according to an algorithm – one piece from a set appears in one shop (finding artifacts from sets, like the Necromancer's Amulet, is practically impossible on the map). The system works like this: you, located on your territory with one shop, get one of the artifacts there, for example, the Crown of the Dragon, while your opponent, with a shop on the other side of the map, sees an artifact from the same set, but, for example, the Sheath. (Of course, these artifacts can drop at different times). Utopias remain... There, of course, they can give you anything... So, it turns out:
1. 10% chance that you will capture all the shops and not miss a single artifact.
2. 10% chance that you will find a Utopia that gives you the desired artifact.
3. And another 10% chance that you will find the desired artifact on the map.

In total, it's about 30%, which is insignificant for collecting a set... This is not serious, and you can't rely on it.
Of course, all this is just my opinion (IMHO)...

Sincerely, _Prizrak_

Gunslinger

18 years ago

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2Prizrak - where did you get this information? Sometimes, you can find 2 artifacts from the dragon set in the shop. Besides, you can also find artifacts on the map... I remember collecting 5 artifacts from the dragon set just on the territory around my castle.

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Mefisto

18 years ago

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2_Prizrak: What do you think? Will I be unable to assemble any artifacts in the late game? No, I'll assemble at least half of them, 99% sure! Even with only half of the artifacts assembled, it's not that bad! And there's also a chance that the necessary artifact will appear in Utopia. So, you understand.

_Prizrak_

18 years ago

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1. Regarding the stats, I think so too...
2. I probably chose a bad example... instead of dragon artifacts, I should have written "Isusin."
3. It's definitely possible to collect 2 artifacts, I'm not arguing, but the chances of collecting a full set are very low.
4. I wrote there about the reason why it's difficult to collect a full set of artifacts.

Не герой

18 years ago

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in the artifact shop of the city of mages, artifacts appear without any system. Once, I bought the entire dwarven set there; first, two items appeared in one week, and then, over the course of two months, two more items appeared one after another.

_Prizrak_

18 years ago

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What is the map like? If there are few shops, they need somewhere to go, and people don't play on small maps for very long, so it's unlikely they'll be able to collect everything... but if there are a lot of shops, then they probably drop according to that system.

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Mos.keen

18 years ago

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_Prizrak_;155266

If artifacts were easy to collect, there wouldn't be any point in playing...

All artifacts drop according to an algorithm – one artifact from a set appears in each shop (on the map, artifacts from sets, like the Necromancer's Amulet, are practically impossible to find). The system works like this: you, while on your territory and having one shop, get one of the artifacts there, for example, the Dragon Crown, and your opponent, with a shop on the other side of the map, sees an artifact from the same set, but, for example, the Scabbard. (Of course, these artifacts can drop at different times). Utopias remain... There, of course, they can give you anything... So, it turns out:
1. 10% chance that you will capture all the shops and not miss a single artifact.
2. 10% chance that you will find a Utopia that gives you the artifact you need.
3. And another 10% chance that you will find the artifact you need on the map.

That's a total of about 30%, which is insignificant for collecting a set... It's not serious, and you can't rely on it.
Of course, all of this is just my opinion...

Sincerely, _Prizrak_

I've noticed the same thing: if you check all the shops, you'll find one piece of each set (except for the Dragon set) in all the shops (we were playing Hot Seat)

Rameliya

9 years ago

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Assembled artifacts appeared only in the "Tribes of the East" expansion. Below is a complete list of assembled artifacts. (Artifacts framed in yellow and green appeared in the first expansion, "Hammers of Fate." Artifacts highlighted with a brown frame appeared in the second expansion, "Tribes of the East.")

It is interesting to note two new aspects:

Assembled artifacts can provide bonuses even when not fully assembled (when there are fewer items than there are in the set).
Most sets (8 out of 10) are "tailored" to a specific race: they give heroes of that race additional bonuses.
Detailed overview:
http://heroes1-5.at.ua/publ/sbornye_artefakty/60-1-0-152

Utiferus

9 years ago

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In my opinion, the most powerful set of artifacts is the "Dragon Strength" set. Of course, obtaining a complete set is extremely difficult, but it's still worth it: a hero who has acquired such artifacts will crush even a formidable opponent, and creatures of level 7 will appear in his army every day.

Rameliya

9 years ago

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Yes, "Dragon Strength" is very cool, but it's difficult to assemble. You can't find the entire set on every map.
It's a different story with "Archer's Dream" - you only need 2 artifacts: Unicorn Bow + Quiver of Arrows.
Or "Rune Power" - you also only need 2 artifacts: Rune Battle Axe + Rune Battle Harness.
This is more realistic.

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MARKEL

:smile12::smile26:There's also another composite artifact - Tome of Dark Magic + Tome of Light Magic + Tome of Summoning Magic + Tome of Chaos Magic = Archmage's Book - it gives ALL SPELLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:smile12::smile26:
That would be great!!!!!!!!!

But it would be extremely unbalanced.

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Crol

It's simply impossible to assemble "Archer's Dream"... the probability is low, even on large maps =\ I've only found the bow from this collection... nothing else! Not once! So it's better to try to assemble something more attainable. I most often find "Dragon Strength" and "Dwarven Might."

No, on the contrary, it's the easiest to assemble