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The only thing missing in the Necropolis castle is the Death Knights; there's nothing else to add there.
:smile16: Сенатор клана Рыцари Апокалипсиса:smile16:



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Why do vampires appeal to so many people? Their stunning ability works just like the blinding ability of unicorns, with the same percentage... And yet, no one seems to care. Everyone praises unicorns, but not the new vampires. But just imagine: 50 vampires can force a unit to withdraw from battle for 4-5 turns.
So many centuries
So many Gods
We were the prisoners of our own fantasy
But now we are marching
Against these Gods
I'm the wizard, I will change it all
Valhalla - Deliverance
Why've you ever forgotten me


19.08.2008 СК Олимпийский.Я запомню это навсегда!!!

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I agree with Valhalla. The new vampires are good. Besides, they gained 1 speed. And they have 5 more hit points. Apparently, the developers think that retaliation is worth a lot. They not only added stunning, but also increased their stats. Personally, I like the new skeletons more. They deal significantly more damage, take half damage from ranged attacks, protect allies, and have magic resistance, albeit small, but it's still level 1. IMHO, they are the best at the start. Although, in principle, you can also combine them. For example, until you have enough troops, carry a couple of bone archers, and the rest are bone shooters. And just place the archers next to the troops to protect them.
O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.


G.K. Chesterton: English Hymnal
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From Altapgrade, only a decent upgrade with Liches and Dragonlings came out (and even that wasn't great), and otherwise, I'm still using the same old upgrade.
Тот, кто находит удовольствие в уединении, либо дикий зверь, либо Бог (с) Аристотель

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WitcheR-L;149104
It really depends on personal preference, what tactics you want to use, and which hero you have.

And the map also matters.
WitcheR-L;149104
At the beginning, I'll take Messengers, and then Banshees, because if you use their special ability on a group, it will be more effective than using the Messengers' special ability, even though they have higher stats.

Adding to the Banshees, they also consume less Dark Energy than Messengers;)

I choose:

1. Skeleton Archers (in difficult situations, 2nd upgrade, when few skeletons are available)
2. Definitely Rotting Zombie (stronger and will last longer)
3. Specters/Wraiths (depending on whether there are more mages or archers on the map)
4. Vampire Lord - forever (no contest)
5. Archlich/Master Lich (Liches, you can combine them, one Decay will deal damage, and the second will resurrect)
6. Banshees (for their special ability)
7. Astral Dragon (higher attack, special ability is sad)
Всадник СМЕРТИ
- Смерть - судьба всех и каждого.

Очень Хаотичный Лидер Клана "Рыцари апокалипсиса"

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Yeah... :smile32: it turns out that I'm not the only one who doesn't like the alternate upgrades for Necropolis creatures... especially for Vampires and Undead (I never use the alternate upgrade). The only alternate upgrade that I think is definitely the best is (Bone Warriors, level 1).
All other creatures from this faction are upgraded by me depending on the situation or personal preference.
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From the new units, I take warrior skeletons. And specters (new ones), they have 1 more HP than the old upgrade. And I also take banshees instead of death messengers (I like their screams :smile22:). Regarding liches, I want to say that I take the new upgrade up to level 50, and then the old one. And you can guess why...
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Here's another argument in favor of the new vampires... They have higher speed. They can already cause trouble in the enemy's ranks on their first turn. A speed of 8 is rare; only nightmares, various dragons, and cerberuses, among others, can boast such speed.
So many centuries
So many Gods
We were the prisoners of our own fantasy
But now we are marching
Against these Gods
I'm the wizard, I will change it all
Valhalla - Deliverance
Why've you ever forgotten me


19.08.2008 СК Олимпийский.Я запомню это навсегда!!!

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Yes, with a large number of vampires, the new ones are better! And if you use the right tactics, they can even reach the smaller creatures. And if you add boots that give +1 to unit speed, then the entire battlefield is yours! As for taking specters that steal ammunition, that's not very effective. It's better to take the old ones and use them to drain mana from the fallen angels, so they won't scare you with their divine vengeance:smile54:
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Yeah... Or, for example... Dryads, Mages, and so on. But I wouldn't mess with the Mistresses; they're terrifying in close combat.
So many centuries
So many Gods
We were the prisoners of our own fantasy
But now we are marching
Against these Gods
I'm the wizard, I will change it all
Valhalla - Deliverance
Why've you ever forgotten me


19.08.2008 СК Олимпийский.Я запомню это навсегда!!!

Как играть онлайн в Герои 5??Ответ здесь
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Skeleton archers are weak, but they can shoot, and that's important for my tactics. Alt-zombies – I like their ability, and the white ones look cooler. Ghosts drain mana pretty well. But I definitely disagree with you about vampires!:smile35: First of all, speed doesn't give them much advantage. Even if you rush to your opponent on the first turn, they will just take you down (they’ll focus all their units on the vampires, and your strongest unit will be wiped out). Secondly, there's the stun effect. It might not work, so you can forget about attacking at level 7. If the vampires get hit back, you need to attack lower levels more often (so they resurrect), but in battle, this is an ineffective distraction from a key unit. With old vampires, I could weaken any unit that was bothering me, but now I have to choose one that won't wipe out all the bloodsuckers if things go wrong! I don't know what kind of Heroes you have, but in my case, the stun effect (as well as blindness) works very rarely (about 1/7), even if I take Soldier's Luck! So, you can't rely on it! A lich without Cloud is not a lich! And heroes should do the resurrection. I generally don't like undead; banshees are useful because of their ability. But still, I HATE the entire level 6!!!!! Because they banned Death Knights S**S!!!:smile35: I take Astral Dragons because I'm a fan of HoMM 3, plus their ability is better.

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2 Lord. He doesn’t care at all... He only knows how to copy, and he doesn't look at sections or notice that such a topic already exists… It would be good to ban him for a week for the last three topics so that he could study the forum as a guest during this time.

P.S. Here is the original topic in Necromancy. /topic/3430/
Undoubtedly, the topic is duplicated; dear moderators need to close such threads (no offense)
Мне больно видеть белый свет,мне легче в полной темноте.
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This topic isn't a duplicate... Because here we discuss the differences and the principle of choosing one of the upgrades. And in that thread, it would be off-topic because it should only discuss the alt-upgrade... I have the same heroes as you... I'm currently playing the campaign... The vampire alt-upgrade is great... It applies stun after 3 attacks (1k7 is nonsense, that can't happen), and it's also a great blocker against ranged units (NEUTRAL), so I wouldn't put them in the front against another player... If I really want to, I'll pair them with specters... They reduce defense... The vampires take them down.
So many centuries
So many Gods
We were the prisoners of our own fantasy
But now we are marching
Against these Gods
I'm the wizard, I will change it all
Valhalla - Deliverance
Why've you ever forgotten me


19.08.2008 СК Олимпийский.Я запомню это навсегда!!!

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Yes, it would be great if there were Knights, and Necropolis would be much stronger. In the third part, there were Knights, and they really helped Necropolis, but now they are gone :(
Ко мне всегда на Ты


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Yes, if there were Knights, Necropolis would be much stronger. In the third part, there were Knights, and they really helped Necropolis, but now there aren't any :(
Well... I wouldn't say so :) If there were Knights, they probably wouldn't have significantly different stats compared to the Undead. There would be a different ability, but definitely not an overpowered ability for neutral Knights. And Necropolis is strong enough as it is. Otherwise, why do so many people love it? ;)
O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.


G.K. Chesterton: English Hymnal

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