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#62
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As long as there is no official ban, it can be used.
If it turns out that it can be used to do something that cannot be done manually, we will ban it.
In any case, in this tournament, you can use the hero finder.

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#63
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I recently heard that there is some "clever" way to find out which heroes are in the tavern on the computer.

Then, knowing these heroes, as well as the heroes that are already on the map (including those in prisons and in the player's tavern), you can calculate which of the heroes are available for recruitment in the tavern.

And then it was suggested not to recruit heroes manually or with a hero digger,
but to intelligently modify the save file by inserting the desired hero into the tavern.

So here’s what I want to say based on my own experience.
There are times when there are heroes who are neither in taverns nor on the map, but they also cannot be recruited manually or with a digger.

However, by modifying the save file, you will still be able to recruit this hero, but here lies the catch – it is impossible to recruit the hero manually; it is clearly a modification of the save file.

The hero digger does not even access the structure of the save file at all; it only emulates pressing keys on the keyboard (and mouse) instead of the user.

P.S. An open question: how do you know if, for example, this save file has been modified, and in this one, the hero was actually recruited manually (or with a digger)? There are ideas about this as well. But this information is for another topic.
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#64
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aastr;151049
I'd also like to participate. Please register me. Even the champions probably won't be able to solve this puzzle in less than 2 weeks :)
Similar thoughts often crossed my mind during other tournaments, and then I would find out Sir Nzol's result:confused:
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vbn;151575
I recently heard that there's some "clever" way to find out which heroes are in the tavern on the computer.

Well, I think there isn't much difference between finding out which hero is in the castle tavern of an opponent, whether it's in the third or second part of Heroes. IronAxe wrote about this. I'll try to find it now...
"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."
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vbn;151575

And then it was suggested not to manually search for heroes or use a "hero finder",
but instead intelligently modify the save file, placing the desired hero in the tavern.
But what if the developer himself writes such a program (I mean his opponent)?;)
Would he trust himself with something like that? And would he give it to people?
Plus, there are strong advantages besides speed... see what kind of heroes the computer has in its taverns.
Besides, similar programs already exist for 3... a sniffer on Heroes Portal detects whether the save file has been hacked and which heroes are available for hire in all taverns.

Now, back to the topic... I sent the Witch Hunt save file to Heroes Portal... they have already confirmed receipt, hopefully, no need to create a duplicate here...
Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.
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I only finished the map for the Gorbik Portal today, so I'm not sure if I'll have time to participate in the tournament. But I still request to be added to the list of participants.
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Please register me as a participant as well. I will send the save file to Sir Catch.
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Sure, sign me up too, since the rules require it. ;-)
I only have a couple of days left to play (in-game)! :-)))
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vbn;151575

Heroekopalka doesn't delve into the save file structure at all; it merely emulates keyboard and mouse key presses on behalf of the user.

Moreover, it operates based on a principle that prevents it from influencing the save file structure in any way. It works not with the game's program code but with the window, emulating cursor movement and key presses. The tool identifies heroes by their appearance in the tavern (meaning if there are heroes with non-standard appearances on the map, it won't be able to find them). This is why it can only work with specific resolutions and color depths.
So, there's no reason to ban it ;)
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The idea is very interesting, and I would like to participate in the tournament.
#72
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Bandito, you don't have much time left.
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#73
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I only sent the save file to Catch.

I really enjoyed the tournament; thank you to the organizers for putting on such a great event.
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Will save files be accepted until February 23rd?
Yes, save files will be accepted until 23:59:59 Moscow time on February 23, 2008.

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Qwerty;153581
Yes, save files will be accepted until 23:59:59 Moscow time on February 23, 2008.

Will HeroesPortal accept save files for one hour longer? According to Kyiv time.