Posts from Thoughts about the Antichrist.

Hey, don't be quiet, we're just starting to have a good discussion!

I've already said what I think. And pointless arguments are not part of my plans ;) This isn't the right topic for that ;) I've had enough arguments in the past ;)

I've already said what I think. And pointless arguments are not part of my plans ;) This isn't the right topic for that ;) I've had enough arguments in the past ;)

They are very meaningful! And there are several reasons for that:
1) Whether the Antichrist is evil or not is the main question of the topic.
2) Whether Christianity is evil or not is a question that follows from the first.
3) I'm just interested in seeing who runs out of arguments first ;) :).
Your move:)

They are quite meaningful! And there are several reasons for that:
1) Whether the Antichrist is evil or not is the main question of the topic.
2) Whether Christianity is evil or not is a question that follows from the first.
3) I'm just interested in seeing whose arguments run out first;).
Your turn:)

No arguments are needed here. The Antichrist = evil, only from the point of view of a person who accepts on faith, as an axiom, all Christian dogmas. Starting from biblical tales and ending with the sermons of priests. For a more or less realistic opinion, I doubt anyone has real data. With all due respect to you, I don't think you know Christ and the Antichrist very well at the same time. Therefore, this conversation is just a waste of time. And I only wrote that it is not necessary to so categorically, relying on the demagoguery of one of the religions, assert about someone that he is absolute evil. He might get offended ;)

Perhaps this question has already been asked, but: if there were no Antichrist, who would maintain Hell and rule over all the sinners? They can’t exactly send them to Heaven… So, he’s actually helping Christ.

Perhaps this question has already been asked, but: if there were no Antichrist, who would maintain hell and rule over all the sinners? They can't just send them to heaven... Therefore, he is even helping Christ.

As far as I remember, he is imprisoned in hell for his sin (he coveted God's power), so he is in hell, roughly like a criminal boss in a prison.

Hmm)) I think he's sitting there like a big boss in a leather armchair, managing all the affairs that happen there)) And no one is managing them, notice) That's even cooler than a criminal authority) Besides, he's not really locked up there) He seems to be able to cause trouble from within without any problems) And there must be something to balance good – therefore, evil is needed; this is what any religion is based on))))

Well, that's exactly what it's for. Your comment about the fat, comedic Antichrist, somewhere between Gaidar and Zhirinovsky, made me laugh – you really came up with some nonsense. Besides, in your argument with Siverfale, Catch, you turned out to be quite stubborn – for you, evil is probably good, and good is evil, judging by how you express yourself. Also, the example of the 85-year-old grandmother is completely absurd and pointless; it's a silly example that only made you look foolish. If you had said that a 30-year-old young man went insane because of his faith and ended up in a mental hospital, that would have been a more believable example, but such a thing has never happened in history (even if you said it, I wouldn't believe it – it's utter nonsense). However, there are cases of pagans – young men who married idols, loving them – that are more abnormal than the priests you consider abnormal because they observe fasts and so on. So, keep in mind that Christianity is not evil; it certainly isn't. You probably don't know how absolute evil women can be (apologies to the ladies), and judging by your conclusions, you don't read much about faith in God. You're confusing Christianity; you claim that it is evil itself, but that's not true. You should remember that the Pope is God's representative on Earth, and that has always been the case since the beginning of our era. Christianity fulfills God's will on Earth. You don't know much about witches and their vile deeds, and you probably don't even believe in them. Think before you argue!!! P.S. It seems that a clan of heretics is being created on our forum soon. Executor, you don't need to constantly bring up the topic of turning the other cheek. After all, even saints, when the limit of what can be tolerated is reached, also take up the sword (figuratively) and defend themselves, upholding the interests of good. Remember that in the Bible, God tolerated the people's sins for a long time, about 100 years or so, before the worldwide flood. When the limit was reached, they received their just punishment.

You’re absolutely right, that’s exactly what it’s for. Your joke about the fat, Antichrist-like comedian between Gaidar and Zhirinovsky made me laugh – you really came up with some nonsense. Besides, in your argument with Siverfale, Catch, you turned out to be quite stubborn – for you, evil is probably good, and good is evil, judging by how you express yourself. Also, the example with the 85-year-old woman is completely absurd and pointless; it’s a stupid example, and you embarrassed yourself with it. If you had said that a 30-year-old young man went crazy because of his faith and ended up in a mental hospital, that example would have been more believable, but such a thing has never happened in history (even if you said it, I wouldn’t believe it – it’s utter nonsense). But there are cases of pagans – young men who married idols, loving them, which is even more abnormal than the priests you consider abnormal because they observe fasts and so on. So, keep in mind that Christianity is not evil; it certainly isn’t. You probably don’t even know what absolute evil women can be (I apologize to the ladies), and judging by your conclusions, you don’t read many books about faith in God. You’re confusing Christianity; you claim that it is evil itself, but that’s not true. You should remember that the Pope is God’s representative on Earth, and it has always been this way since the beginning of our era. Christianity fulfills God’s will on Earth. You know little about witches and their vile deeds, and you probably don’t even believe in them. Think before you argue!!! P.S. It seems that a clan of heretics is about to be created on our forum. Executor, you don’t need to constantly bring up the topic of turning the other cheek. Even saints, when the limit of everything permissible is reached, also take up the sword (figuratively) and defend themselves, defending the interests of good. Remember that in the Bible, God tolerated people’s sins for a long time, about 100 years or so, before the worldwide flood. When the limit was reached, they received their deserved punishment.

A typical church-Christian absurdity :))) As they say, no comments ;)

The most typical religious nonsense :)))

Well, for you, a non-believer, it's nonsense, but you'll burn deep in hell.

If I remember correctly, he is imprisoned in hell for his sin (he coveted the power of God), so he is in hell, roughly like a criminal boss in a prison.

Lucifer is held in hell, not the Antichrist.
The Antichrist is then the son and embodiment of Satan on Earth, and not Lucifer himself.

Lucifer is held in hell, not the Antichrist.
The Antichrist is the son and embodiment of Satan on Earth, but not Lucifer himself.

The first sensible thought in this stream of nonsense :)

Right, that's exactly what it's for. Catch, regarding the joke about the fat Antichrist between Gaidar and Zhirinovsky, you really cracked me up—who writes such nonsense. Moreover, in your argument with Siverfale, Catch, you proved to be quite stubborn—for you, evil is probably good, and good is evil, judging by the way you speak. Also, the example of the 85-year-old woman—she would have died soon anyway; it's a completely stupid, meaningless example, and you disgraced yourself with it. Now, if you had said that a 30-year-old guy went insane because of faith and ended up in a psychiatric ward—that example would have been more believable, though throughout history such a thing hasn't happened (even if you had said it, I wouldn't have believed it—complete rubbish). On the other hand, cases of pagan youths who married idols, loving them, are far more abnormal than the priests whom you consider abnormal for observing fasts and such. So keep in mind: Christianity is not evil, that's for sure. You don't even know what absolute evil women can be (my apologies to the ladies), and judging by your conclusions, you've read very few books regarding faith in God. You confuse Christianity; you claim that it is evil itself, but in reality, it is not. You should remember that the Pope is God's representative on earth; it has always been so since the common era. Christianity carries out God's will on earth; you know little about witches and their vile deeds, or perhaps you don't even believe in them.
Think before you argue!!!

P.S. Apparently, a clan of heretics is about to be formed on our forum.
Executor, there's no need to constantly bring up the topic of turning the other cheek; after all, even saints, when the limit of what is permissible to endure is reached, also take up the sword (figuratively) and defend themselves, upholding the interests of good. Remember in the Bible, before the Great Flood, God endured for over 100 years the thought of destroying people for their sins. When the limit of what was allowed was reached, they received their deserved punishment.

A 30-year-old, you say? And you think people haven't gone mad from this? Oh yes, they have, and not just at thirty—at any age! Do you really think that faith just appeared on its own, that everyone accepted it so simply, and then all sorts of contradictory scoundrels appeared? Or maybe we should remember how Christianity appeared in Rus'? Prince Vladimir, under threat of death, drove the citizens into the river and told them: "Now you believe in Jesus Christ, not in Perun and Co." Do you think many wanted to? They were forced...
And how much blood has been shed because of religion? Let's remember the Crusades. People were killed simply because their God was Allah. Is that normal? Only Christianity deserves the right to life? Are those who believe in other deities any worse? Only Christians are so special and only they are right? Or is it not so, and every faith should be respected?
Women can be evil... but men can't be? Should I remind you of Doctor Mengele?! That animal killed so many defenseless people that I've never seen such a thing in my life! Tell me about even one such woman! That is my attitude toward those who talk about "Women being the spawn of the devil."
Christianity carries out the will of God? Are you absolutely sure that is His will? Absolutely?
Witches :D Now this is where you'd better keep quiet) The Inquisition)) Christians, after all... And women were killed just for finding some healing herbs that others didn't know about before. And those healers only wanted to help. For that, they were burned at the stake—a torturous death... I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Of course, there were malicious women who truly thought they were connected to the Devil and did his will, and therefore had to do all sorts of atrocities, but killing everyone indiscriminately is like dropping hydrogen bombs on Chechnya—we'll kill all the militants at once, and to hell with the civilians. Not bad, right?
I didn't even touch upon the topic of turning the other cheek just now.
And can you speak more politely in an argument? Or is it normal for you in a conversation on religious themes, or where your interlocutor's opinion doesn't match yours? Actually, it is customary to speak politely on this forum.
P.S. Let me guess now—there'll be a "-1 BD" and "burn in hell, cursed atheist!"

Well, it's nonsense to you, unbeliever; you'll burn deep in hell.

Well, it certainly doesn't depend on your opinion ;) It's already been decided, and not by you ;)

Lucifer resides in hell, not the Antichrist.
The Antichrist is then the son and embodiment of Satan on Earth, and not Lucifer himself.

That's what I was saying, that it's at least foolish to talk about the followers of the Antichrist because he hasn't even appeared yet. And calling Satanists his followers is like calling the Jews of the time of David and Solomon followers of Christ :)

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You say 30 years old? And you think they didn't go crazy because of it? Yes, and not just at thirty - at any age! Do you really think that faith came about on its own, that everyone just accepted it so easily, and then all sorts of contradictory scoundrels appeared? Or maybe we should remember how Christianity appeared in Russia? Prince Vladimir, under threat of death, drove the townspeople into the river and said, "Now you believe in Jesus Christ, and not in Perun and Co." Do you think many wanted to? They were forced to...

The most interesting thing is that Christian culture, despite all the secularism of our state, penetrates so deeply into all aspects of our lives... I recently read a history textbook for the 4th grade. It says that people saw that Vladimir and his retinue had accepted the Christian faith, and everyone happily went to be baptized... Such nonsense... They are silent about the thousands killed at that time for Christ, and such smart guys as the one who decided that it would be good for me to sweat in hell, say something about pagans, about their sacrifices... Moreover, Perun, the only one of the pantheon of the original Russian gods who can be called cruel, although compared to Christ, he is simply the Lamb of God, only began to come to the forefront in the 10th century, when invaders came to Russia from two sides: the Byzantines and the Khazars. The Rus' people needed to defend themselves, their families, so they turned to the only warlike god. And even this only god helped them defeat their enemies. And after that, the enemies decided to act through betrayal. They killed Svyatoslav, killed his legitimate sons, and put the illegitimate Vladimir in power, who obediently carried out their will, baptized Rus', thereby actually putting it under the control of Byzantium, since the Orthodox patriarch lived there at that time.
And now we are proud of the baptism of Rus', we consider our history to begin with it, forgetting about our roots, forgetting about the original Russian faith... And there are more and more stubborn fanatics like my "well-wisher." And the Devil, Satan, for them is not what we consider evil, but precisely the pagan gods that each people had. And Satan appeared for the first time when the cult of Yahweh fought against the ancient cults of Baal, Astarte, etc. Hence the horned Devil and so on. And the great Christian faith was created only with one goal: to destroy the Roman Empire. Which it succeeded in doing. And then it served only to keep millions of people in obedience with such phrases as "you will burn deep in hell." And the development of human civilization was stalled for at least a thousand years. All this is a consequence of Christianity. And now you are all afraid of the coming of the Antichrist? But if you think about it, there have already been many antichrists, and each of them brought good. Leonardo, Copernicus, Galileo, Giordano Bruno, they all went against the church, moving humanity forward.

In general, I'll summarize :) You need to at least think for yourself a little, and not blindly believe everything that the apologists of some religions say ;)

Why then did all of you atheists and non-believers even come to this topic in the first place?! The very idea of the Antichrist comes from the Bible and nowhere else, and you are making up nonsense about it here. HOW DARE YOU!!! You have already expressed your opinion, it's clear, and it's very amusing. Catch is a funny mix of Gaidar and Zhirinovsky – the Antichrist (what a thing you came up with). Do you, with such a worldview, perhaps just got out of prison? Even though this is a joke, I'm not only asking this because of it, but also because of all the posts you have written in this topic. Don't corrupt the truth as you are doing, turning it into a lie. Think about whether the idea of his coming came from pagans or someone else. If you say yes, that's utter nonsense. How can you not believe in God when you don't even know what awaits you in the future? You don't know what fate might bring you. But don't say that a person creates their own destiny. I've already read that in "The Master and Margarita" (there's a clear example). How dare you claim that there is no God when you study and work as he commanded (6 days are practically a working day for everyone, and the 7th day is a day off and is consecrated by the Lord, but don't tell me that people invented the schedule themselves in ancient times and then attributed it to the Bible in order to control people even more strongly and realistically with the Christian religion through faith in the true God; it is enough to remember how pagan religion controlled people in Ancient Rome, Greece, Egypt, and in our country and in America, and in other civilizations (in America, their religion allowed people to be sacrificed, they believed that this would ensure that the sun would continue to rise in the sky, this was mandatory for them, and their main god of the religion, Quetzalcoatl, the Feathered Serpent, is this not absolute evil, have you even seen Mel Gibson's film "Apocalypto," which tells about this in more detail?; proud Rome received what it deserved for its desire to rule over many, and it was rightly punished by the Germanic barbarians). God allowed this, and rightly so. Non-Christian!!! (and how they also incited lions against Christians, tell me, is that also right, feeding defenseless people to lions?). The fact that Prince Vladimir drove everyone into the icy river because of their disbelief – there is nothing bad or harmful to health in this, on the contrary, hardening helps to strengthen the human body, especially on the Day of the Baptism of Christ, people also bathe in icy water in winter and nothing happens, and for professionals in this matter, nothing threatens at all, especially since we have always had severe frosts (let's remember the wars of Napoleon and Hitler), so hardening is only beneficial for the future, they wouldn't have frozen anything off! And how did our faith in Christ help us in the Battle of Kulikovo against the Mongols, because a 140,000-strong Russian army opposed Khan Batu with his countless horde of 300,000 warriors, do you feel the difference? It was faith that helped them win, and the ambush regiment, which struck at the right time. Otherwise, you might all still be under the rule of the Golden Horde, and the country would have developed more slowly because of them. All the peoples were amazed by this victory of the Russians. Baptism does not kill anyone; for example, a military regiment went to war, and before that, they were baptized and prayed. Everyone returned from the battle alive (this is not just an anecdote). It's inexplicable, but it's a fact. And for me, there is nothing inexplicable. Christ commanded his disciples to spread the faith throughout the world!!! You fools! From there, the priests and inquisitors continued their work (spreading the faith). Let's remember George the Victorious, who defeated the Moors, who had been constantly attacking Spain for centuries. Saint Luke, who communicated with and pitied the poor, who became poor precisely because of power, how many people in Russia became impoverished because of perestroika and the theft of oligarchs – is this not evil in your opinion (no, we will instead believe that Christianity is evil), everything was right, and everyone kept voting for Putin, because it's still better than someone else who would again disgrace the country and weaken it, like Yeltsin, who was also pressured by the oligarchs, for example, Zhirinovsky, a showman, he says and promises everything in words, but not in deeds. Boris promised a lot, but he did nothing, and it was the party created by the Soviet Union that promoted such people, and the Soviets were created by revolutionaries, led by Lenin, who was supported by Stalin, who had only two years of education and this man sent millions of soldiers to war, one general asked him to send reinforcements to St. Petersburg, but he categorically refused, he was thinking about Moscow, if Moscow was captured, then the war would be lost (he was thinking about himself, that atheist devil), and how he argued with Churchill, who arrived on ships in St. Petersburg about opening a second front, after all, England is a small country, not like Mother Russia. Stalin said: "It doesn't matter how many human lives must be lost for the sake of victory in the war!" (approximately). That is, he already didn't care about human lives, and we had the same concentration camps as Hitler did under Stalin, from this it follows that Stalin killed millions, and human culture, morality were destroyed, the workers were the best, as Lenin said (about the working class) and he pitied them, the intelligentsia under the Tsar, as he believed, were all exploiters, scoundrels and bastards. These people, in order to survive, crowded on ships sailing to Europe. Stalin also destroyed them all. And what about him, I read a biography about him, which was also instilled in the heads of our fathers and mothers, grandfathers and grandmothers, great-grandfathers and great-grandmothers. Isn't this the madness of atheists, and do you also consider priests to be abnormal? And these posters everywhere and always in the Soviet Union, Stalin and Lenin, like gods, everyone worships them, the whole people are misguided and stupid and driven mad by them. In your opinion, atheists are normal, maybe not all of them, but don't try to force all of Christianity into one mold, that everyone is abnormal and so on, and then we will also force all atheists to believe that you are absolute evil. As you treat us, so we will treat you. You started it, so you are to blame. How are you atheists better when, like you, the pagans themselves killed even more human lives, millions of them, while Christianity eradicated harmful people: witches, sorcerers, and Cathars. Do you even know what evil witches did, old women who devoured infants and other witches also did, and they tried to do as much as possible, one witch could have up to 40 eaten infants on her conscience, and there were hundreds of these witches, Satan has many servants. Remember the Battle of Troy, it was because of a woman that the Trojans and Greeks killed tens of thousands of people. There is also a historical case about a queen, either Sumerian or Jewish, I don't remember exactly, she killed her husband in order to rule the kingdom herself, and then her own children, heirs, in order to prolong her power. Moreover, these are not all their deeds. This is even worse than the example you gave with Doctor Mengele, whom I have now surpassed a hundred times (all the ladies will faint now), you criticize religion so much, but what are you good for? It is rightly said in the Bible by wise Apostles and Prophets: judge by deeds, not by words. Here, atheism seized power, allowed the same war in Chechnya to happen, for the sake of the oligarchs' profits, and thousands of lives were lost. It was right that Siverfale said that law enforcement agencies are no better, they are also atheists who spit on people and only think about themselves. After the revolutionaries killed our Tsar and renounced God, they created such power, and the whole West began to despise us, all of Europe, America, and others. Well, if you don't want to believe, don't believe, but don't climb into the topic that, in your disbelief, is nonsense, so why do you stubbornly climb here and write your meaningless posts, if you don't believe in God, then you don't believe in the Devil and the Antichrist either. You are of no use here. Only meaningless empty arguments and useless chatter. P.S. You were all baptized as infants, how can you reject faith, non-Christian!!! After all, you are probably Jews, maybe not completely, but practically everyone has either a small or a large share of this blood. For Jews, it is a sin to reject faith and not believe in God! eXeCuToR, you yourself, by the photograph you posted on the forum, look like a Jew.

...Christianity eradicated harmful people: witches, sorcerers, and Cathars. Do you even know what evil witches did...

No, I don't know for some reason...:rolleyes:

Stalin said: "It doesn't matter how many human lives must be lost for victory in the war!" (approximately). That is, he already didn't care about human lives + we also had concentration camps just like Hitler's under Stalin, from which it follows that Stalin killed millions + human culture and morality were being destroyed.

So what do atheists have to do with it? Are you implying that all atheists are like that?

After all, you were all baptized in infancy, how can you reject faith, you non-Christian!!!

It wasn't by my will.

Then why did all you atheists and non-believers come to this topic at all?! The very idea of the Antichrist comes from the Bible and nowhere else, and you are making up nonsense about it here. HOW DARE YOU!!!

Listen, what's it to you? If people want to, let them discuss it, why are you starting to flame?