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Or maybe you could organize a tournament for TE?
The difficulty level for the game could be set to 200%, but in a separate file, add starting resources for the heroes: 5 wood and 5 stone, 5000 gold, and 2 of all other resources.
The number of computer opponents could be set to 2 or 4, depending on the players' choice.
The map could be L with an underground or XL without an underground.
And if people really like the standard SOD, you could disable everything... the main thing is that in TE, more balanced random maps are created...
Playing on a fixed map is not very interesting...
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RAPER
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IMO, there are already enough tournaments; clan wars are ongoing, and SOY will be held soon (spring 2008). Then there will be an Arena tournament on TE... and another Arena tournament on SOD... so I think that such a tournament would not be beneficial. And besides, if you want to play on TE, just post a request in the "Let's arrange to play 3v3 online" thread, and maybe someone will respond. Although the idea of a tournament is commendable.
играю на уровне AI !!:smile32: ;)
Dreamcatcher
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If the idea of bringing the TE closer to the SOD works, then we need to hold a test tournament. But it should be 160% successful.
If the idea of bringing the AI closer to the level of a skilled player works, then a test tournament should be held. But at 160%.
What's the point of 160%? With sufficient resources, computer opponents are very weak and don't pose a significant threat (it's much more interesting to fight against an opponent in more challenging conditions). P.S. Just to clarify (for those who might not know), computer opponents always start with conditions corresponding to yours at a difficulty of 100%. Two creature buildings at the beginning (sorry, I accidentally didn't select this option in the poll) with 5000 gold and resources of 5 2 5 2 2 2 is quite enough for initial balance in various conditions (it's rarely any different).
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Ley
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The very idea of holding an OFFLINE tournament for Might & Magic: Heroes is commendable! But on the other hand, considering how busy our "tournament community" is, it's unlikely that a sufficient number of participants will be available for such a tournament...
Perhaps the creator of this thread should ask what time frame would be more suitable for most people...
"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."
The very idea of holding an (as I understand it) OFFLINE tournament...
what timeframes would be more suitable for most...
1. No, not an OFFLINE tournament... otherwise, I would have posted it in the OFFLINE tournament sections of the forum... 2. I made a suggestion; I didn't say anything about the timeframes... Dreamcatcher;148912
Only 160%
in principle, a tournament can be held under certain conditions... such and such... and if specific players decide to change something by mutual agreement, why not... TE allows it...
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RAPER
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With sufficient resources, computer opponents are very weak and do not pose a significant threat (it is much more interesting to fight against opponents in more challenging conditions).
Hmm... online with computer opponents????
No, not offline... otherwise, I would have posted it in the offline tournament section of the forum...
That's very silly... IMHO... it's the same as an offline release...
играю на уровне AI !!:smile32: ;)
Dreamcatcher
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Computer opponents are widely used in the practice of professional online players on the 8mm6 template. That is, two human players compete against each other, and in addition to them, there are 6 computer-controlled opponents.
Computer opponents are widely used in the practice of professional online players on the 8mm6 template. That is, two human players play against each other, and in addition to them, there are 6 computer opponents.
. I don't find this very appealing... You can play against a computer at home, alone, at your own pace, and play to your heart's content... But like this... They are too predictable....=)) (IMHO).. It's much more interesting to play against people... then it's easier - 5 people can sit down, with only 1 real person, and play for a week+)) and so on=)).. ;) That's where it gets really interesting=)
I don't think it's fun... - you can play at home alone with a computer, taking your time and enjoying it. But like this... They are too predictable... =)) (IMHO).. It's much more interesting to play with people... then it's easier - 5 people can sit down and play for a real day, which is like a week+))... well, etc... ;) that's where it gets interesting=)
Have you tried playing like that? Try it, you might like it. And besides, you're not playing against computers, but against a person. Bots are just for atmosphere and extra excitement. You're probably just afraid that the computer will kill you :p.
Dreamcatcher
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At this rate of experience gain for computer-controlled heroes, it might actually happen :D
You're probably just afraid that the computer will defeat you.
Yes, yes... that's all I'm afraid of...
играю на уровне AI !!:smile32: ;)
Phenix3
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The AI opponents are predictable, of course, but they are 200% effective, and when you play not only against them but also against a real opponent, they can definitely kill you... The goal is to survive and defeat the opponent (regardless of who kills them).
I haven't played in a long time, but I agree that if you know how to fight against the AI, they aren't a big problem and only become problematic when combined into two teams of three (if it's just one team, they have no one to fight and are weaker)...
But for a tournament, not a game with one person and a limited time, this might be too aggressive, so I suggest a more relaxed option: 2 or 4 AI opponents without alliances.
However, in a chaotic tournament with several players, it's not very interesting due to the inevitable human factor... again, the game will be based on luck (we'll exclude the option of a large difference in player experience).
So, it's not worth saying: RAPER;149402
Hmm... is it online with AI opponents???? That's very stupid... IMHO... it's the same as an offline game...
What kind of offline game can it be when you won't have a chance to win and will be limited in time?
If an AI kills you instead of the opponent, you still lose.
Dreamcatcher;149409
AI opponents are widely used in the practice of professional online players on the 8mm6 template. That is, two players play against each other, and in addition to them, there are 6 AI opponents.
Because this is optimal for professional online players :)
I only played like that on a local network, with one machine in "hot seat" mode, and it was optimal...
But since I'm not an online player, I don't know anyone, I haven't played in a long time, and I'm not sure that these rules would suit many people for a tournament, I suggest 2 or 4 AI opponents.
Also, I suggest that in the tournament, the map conditions are chosen in turn within certain limits (except for difficulty).
The choice of starting cities should be either random or determined by a quick vote.
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Loi
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In addition to the above posts, I suggest holding a test tournament (6-10 people) where the TE (Test Environment) is as close as possible to the SOD (Standard Operating Document) – if this is technically feasible now. This could even involve leaving only the button for transferring all troops (what to leave – we can discuss this further, but not for too long; democracy is good in moderation). We should invite 2-3 respected individuals from the SOD community to the tournament, and then everyone can share their opinions based on the tournament results. On my side, if the esteemed Dreamcatcher or/and Phenix3 can handle the technical and organizational aspects, I will try to involve 5-10 people from my side, if needed. The tournament results, with a name like "SOD-TE Test Drive," should also be taken into account in the ranking here – this doesn't violate any rules, as it will be considered that all tournament participants simply agreed to play against each other according to these rules. As they say, time will tell. Also, in my opinion, it should be done quickly – in 1-2 weeks; those who cannot participate should refrain. And if there were a couple more masters of TE, it would be a real "silver bullet."
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If the idea of bringing TE closer to SOD works out...
Please explain. If you mean technical implementation, that's one thing. But if you mean waiting for everyone to express their opinion, in my opinion, this will take a long time and is not the most optimal approach. There will always be plenty of people who want to speak up, even after the tournament – and further discussion will be more productive, having practical testing experience. Experience is the son of difficult mistakes (not my quote)
Стратегия - искусство возможного.
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Just in case... whoever organizes the tournament... it's important not to forget: 1. Ban the heroes Goltran and Tazar. (Other heroes don't need to be banned if it's decided to enable the option to change the starting skills of the heroes). 2. Ban the Grail in the Conflux.