Completely disappeared without a trace. And deserters, who should have been brought back from previous installments of Heroes. — General

Cheri@

18 years ago

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Shevriel;147218

I completely agree. Let's bring back the azure dragons! But if there were dragons with different levels – magical ones at level 8, crystal ones at level 9, rusty ones at level 10, and azure ones at level 11. The first three would occupy four squares (large creature ability), and the azure one would occupy 8 or 12 squares and simultaneously have the huge creature ability – the idea is that all 7 units from the army could kill it at the same time!

And they also need to be changed somehow, so that they are not azure, etc., but some kind of their descendants. Similar, but different.

Shevriel

18 years ago

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That's quite possible. Something like ancient dragons. There's information in fantasy books that dragons change color as they grow. We could also add white ones – huge, strong, pure – and have them befriend the Elves.

Loken

18 years ago

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How about making it 30 cells right away? Otherwise, it seems a bit underwhelming. At least it will effectively block archers from the very beginning of the battle with its bulk. However, there will be a problem with heroes – they won't be able to use this creature. Why? Because they simply won't be able to place it on the battlefield within the tactical grid. That's not right, is it?

And "Hatred" will be Nygon's future spell. So :P

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And, by the way, Shevriel, green dragons are already "friendly" with the elves.
And where do you get these "fantasy books" from? With ice elves and molting dragons? O_o

Shevriel

18 years ago

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Books, of course, can be found online. It's just that you can make the White Dragon an 8th-level creature. Now, regarding the dragon that occupies 8 squares. It's desirable not for the hero, but as something like a boss. And let it block attacks. In the case where a huge army is attacking a single, ancient dragon, the maximum number of units should be able to approach it to attack, otherwise, it will defeat them all, but here, one unit attacks, the dragon responds accordingly, and the others attack it without provoking a counterattack. This is better. In any case, such a creature is something new. It's not the tiresome army of darkness, which has the same units; it's a monster that the hero will hunt. And there's no need to populate the map with them; otherwise, it will be like in Heroes of Might and Magic III½: In the Wake of Gods, where the map is simply teeming with dwellings of level 8 monsters created on a random map, and the computer-controlled players only buy them.

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18 years ago

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and, well, Shevriel, the green dragons are already "friends" with the elves.

Lock, you're quite the racial discriminator. What difference does skin color make? White? Green? Guys, let's all get along!

Shevriel

18 years ago

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No problem. I'm not trying to undermine the green faction. It's just about imagination. If there were also white units, who would that hurt? The more units there are, the more ideas there are, otherwise we'll soon be discussing everything on the forum and have topics like: Which is better, 15 assassins or 46 goblins, etc. We need to grow, develop our imagination, and firmly believe in the next expansion, which simply has to be released.

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Cheri@

18 years ago

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And I also really liked the thieves in the third game! I would just make them a bit stronger in the fifth game, maybe around level 6. Something like professional assassins, similar to those in Disciples 3, maybe you know what I mean. :smile28:

Loken

18 years ago

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and the next expansion pack probably won't be released, so there's no point in fooling ourselves:)
I'm not a discriminator, it's just that if one faction has two level 7 creatures at once, especially a dragon... they get along... then other factions might get offended... and I would also mention the names of these books. It's interesting.
Cheri@, professional assassins are in Disciples 2, and in the not-yet-released third game, they just look like street thugs with a knife (which is a shame).
and again, returning to the white dragons - these are not "defectors" (a blatant display of ignorance), they didn't exist before. This means it doesn't correspond to the topic. That's it :P

Shevriel

18 years ago

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and again, returning to the white dragons - they are not some kind of "defectors (outrageous illiteracy)", they didn't exist before. So, this doesn't correspond to the topic.

Yes, sorry, I got carried away. It happens to everyone :smile04:. But I still have hope for the add-on, and it's still alive. The company has no choice - people want it, and there's money to be made.
I would like to suggest bringing back the golden golems to Heroes 5, but give them the "gilding" property - so that if neutral creatures are killed, 5% of their value goes to the hero who killed them in the form of gold.

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Cheri@

18 years ago

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Loken;147454

the next expansion won't be released anyway, so there's no point in deluding yourself:)
I'm not a discriminator, it's just that if one race has two level 7 creatures at once, especially a dragon... they get along... then other races might be offended... and I would already say the name of these books. it's interesting.
Cheri@, professional killers are in Disciples 2, in the not-yet-released third game, they just look like street thugs with a little knife (which is a pity).
and again, returning to white dragons - these are not "defectors" (a blatant display of illiteracy), they didn't exist before. this means it doesn't correspond to the content of the topic. oh well :P

I am ashamed of myself for mentioning Disciples 3 and I deserve a ban (God forbid):smile48:, sorry to the fans (including myself), but it was just a stupid typo!
By the way, I remembered hobbits, they fit well into the world of Heroes (and Tolkien appreciates them, and I respect him). But perhaps it was right to remove them. They were weak, and in the struggle for survival, someone always has to die so that others can live!