Dark City — New towns.

Registered: 11/21/2007

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#1 11/21/2007 8:09 PM UTC

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I have an idea – to create a dark city. Not just a mishmash of all the evil factions, but something original :rolleyes:. Since I already have a team – a whole 11 people – I plan to start development as soon as possible. Here is the initial concept:

***Creatures of the Dark City***

Level 1: Born in Darkness/Shadow Servant
Level 2: Headhunter/Ancestor's Chosen
Level 3: Rune Lord/Hralt's Hammerer
Level 4: Assassin/Shadow Walker
Level 5: Shadow Sorcerer/Spellshrieker
Level 6: Moon Templar/Blade Dancer
Level 7: Fallen Apprentice/Fallen Maestro
Level 8: Antichrist (please forgive me if I offended anyone)
Buildings (preliminarily approved)

Town Hall
Magistrate
Capitol

Fort
Stronghold
Castle

Tavern

Forge

Market
Resource Depot
Artifact Merchant

Mage Guild (5 floors)

Shipyard
Beacon

Grail (Council of Dark Gods)

Special Building #1 - n/a
Creature dwellings:
Level 1/1+ level: Abandoned Outpost/Terrifying Outpost
Level 2/2+ level: Mercenary Camp/Bandit Camp
Level 3/3+ level: Rune Hall/Hralt's Hall
Level 4/4+ level: Shadow Academy/Unseen Academy
Level 5/5+ level: Shadow Spire/Howling Spire
Level 6/6+ level: Moon Temple/Pantheon of Dark Gods
Level 7/7+ level: Halls of the Fallen/Castle of the Fallen

Creature growth – levels 1 (option – Recruit Barracks),
3 (option – Mithril Mines)

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Native terrain – misty lands
Pit – ominous fog
Heroes: Warrior – Master of Midnight; Mage – Unseen
Warrior Commander: Midnight Guard
Mage Commander: Shadow Touched
If you want, visit our website - http://master-forve.narod.ru

Registered: 8/25/2007

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#2 11/21/2007 9:21 PM UTC

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Couldn't they have come up with shorter, simpler, and more original names for the creatures and their dwellings?:smile42:

Ars longa, vita brevi's est...

Registered: 2/19/2007

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#3 11/22/2007 12:18 PM UTC

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Well, a Witcher is essentially a warrior, just one who knows a bit about magic. I would come up with something else. For example, something like "Enchanter" or something along those lines...

Step aside from the way of a better man than you
So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you
Its the servants devotion for the decay
Stand up

There are no flowers on your grave
There are no chains
There I keep chanting for the forgotten name © Amorphis

Registered: 11/21/2007

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#4 11/22/2007 2:28 PM UTC

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Thank you for the justified criticism. We will take it into account.

Registered: 10/27/2006

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#5 11/27/2007 4:26 PM UTC

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Master Forve;129073

I have an idea – to create a dark city. Not just a mishmash of all the evil factions, but something original :rolleyes:. Since I already have a team – as many as 11 people – I plan to start development as soon as possible. Here is the initial concept:

***Creatures of the dark city***
Unimproved Improved
Level 1 Forsaken Dark Paladin
Level 2 Headhunter Ancestral Chosen
Level 3 Rune Lord Hralta's Hammerer
Level 4 Assassin Shadow Walker
Level 5 Shadow Sorcerer Shrieking Spellcaster
Level 6 Shi'ilen Templar Blade Dancer
Level 7 Fallen Apprentice Fallen Maestro

I didn't know that "Lineage" fans had time to play "Heroes" :D

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Registered: 11/21/2007

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#6 11/28/2007 5:21 PM UTC

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Mugais;130883

Didn't know that Lineage fans had time to play Heroes :D

Oops... Are you talking about Shilen? I just found out yesterday that it's from Lineage 2... Sorry for the unintentional plagiarism:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Registered: 11/23/2007

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#7 11/29/2007 4:26 PM UTC

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In principle, I can’t imagine this faction in the game itself, but I’m all for it; we’re tired of all the existing castles, and we want something new.

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Registered: 11/18/2007

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#8 12/3/2007 4:45 PM UTC

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Mugais;130883

Didn't know that Lineage fans have time to play Heroes :D

more likely, Heroes fans have time for Lineage 2=). And in general, it gets boring, but Heroes doesn't)))))

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Gentlemen, one question: how will you overcome the 255 monster limit? :confused: There are creatures from Heroes 3 + about 20 in Haven + Cove and Fortress, and that's at least 30, will there be enough reserve for another new castle? And if so, a Dark Paladin of level 1 is a creature, it's discrimination=))
P.S.: I hope the gods will be so kind to us that at the beginning of the new year, we will still wait for Haven 3.59, I'm really looking forward to seeing the new city! ;)

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#9 12/5/2007 4:27 PM UTC

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snipe;132795

more likely, fans of Heroes have time for Lineage 2 =). And in general, it gets boring, but Heroes doesn't)))))

Added 4 minutes later
Gentlemen, one question: how will you overcome the barrier of 255 monsters:confused: There are creatures from Heroes 3 + about 20 of them in Haven + Cove and Fortress, and that's at least 30 more, will there be enough reserve for another new castle? And if so, a Dark Paladin of level 1 is a creature, it's a horror, this is discrimination=))
P.S.: I hope the gods will be so kind to us that at the beginning of the new year we will still wait for Haven 3.59, I really want to see a new city!;)

Currently, there is a discussion about the possibility of re-releasing Heroes 3 on a new engine, where all these limits will be thrown out. The only problem is that it's a very long process. There are enough programmers, but there are no artists.

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#10 12/5/2007 7:07 PM UTC

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Mugais;133437

Currently, there is a discussion about the possibility of re-releasing Heroes 3 on a new engine, where all these limits will be scrapped. However, this is a very long process. There are enough programmers, but there are no artists.

In my opinion, it will no longer be Heroes, but a competition to see who can create the best castle. I'm waiting for WoG 3.59, and with it, Bastion. I tried a script for the human town; when a griffin fires, a critical error occurs. But making it without limits would be in line with the history of Might and Magic; I'm not very familiar with it (I'm practically unfamiliar), but in all the games, this is observed, and it would be bad to deviate from it.

Registered: 5/5/2007

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#11 12/5/2007 8:32 PM UTC

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The Paladin doesn't seem suitable for the 1st tier; the names are too complicated and simply evoke laughter. The special building is also too overpowered compared to other factions. The idea itself isn't bad, though.

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#12 12/5/2007 11:42 PM UTC

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snipe;133501

In my opinion, it will no longer be about heroes, but about a competition to see who can create the best castle :) I'm looking forward to Heroes 3.59, and with it, the Bastion. I tried a script for the human town; when a griffin fires, a critical error occurs :( And yes, it should be done without limits, following the history of Might and Magic. I'm not very knowledgeable (actually, I'm practically unfamiliar), but this has always been observed in all the games, and it would be bad to deviate from it.

But what does a competition to see who can create the best castle have to do with any traditions??? :confused: You didn't understand me.

Imagine Heroes 3 with new graphics, small innovations, and a flexible structure where you can implement any new castles and other mods without fear of any limits. This is what a group of enthusiasts from Russia, Ukraine, and the Baltic countries are currently doing.

Unfortunately, this project doesn't have an official website yet.

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Registered: 8/4/2007

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#13 12/6/2007 6:40 AM UTC

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Master Forve, in my opinion, your ideas need some refinement. Take a look at how the Swamp Castle or the second Dungeon is made...

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Registered: 12/2/2007

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#14 12/25/2007 5:27 PM UTC

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Sure, everything is cool, but I also think you're going too far with the Paladins. Maybe you should come up with something like "Fallen to Darkness," and a dark paladin already exists in some city as a commander.