Posts from LMS, IMHO, is unnecessary!

I suggest that all those who disagree create their own opposite to the League of Might and Magic Clans (LZMS).
If LZMS is a "+", then I propose creating a "-".
Please post your suggestions in this thread.
But beforehand, it must be understood that this organization (if it is created) will not be for resolving conflicts and pacifying "psychotic clans." It will only be to protect users and clans from the actions of LZMS.
In short, I propose going into opposition!

LZMS, IMHO, IS NOT NEEDED!!!!!!!!!:mad:
P.S.: I will not answer posts like:
"What actions should we be protected from?" Those who are aware of all the events will understand what I am talking about.

Well, I'll say this... let me let you in on a little secret... that the League of Shadow Masters (LZMS) already exists (and has for a very long time...!!!) and the question of whether it will be organized is irrelevant. Please study the essence of clan affairs... (ask qwerty, for example... as have many of us... he was at the core of the clan movement...). Find out who AlexeyPank is, what he did for the forum, and why it was all created... and what exactly you disagree with!!!!

I'm not suggesting we remove Lzms (I'm intentionally writing it with a lowercase letter). What's being discussed in the thread, you can read below.

you keep doing that... keep pedaling until they kick you out!!!!!!!! You're already starting to annoy people with phrases like that... I'm not trying to get rid of you... although I could, and not just you.

and you, don't be rude, you're annoying everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think the clan might reconsider its decision in the future (and you know this because I'm more than sure you're not thrilled that the clan "joined"). Here, I suggest we express our opinions about the League of Champions, possible changes to it, so that we can come to a decision that suits everyone. I brought this here because posts were being deleted in the League of Champions topic (apparently, it's "off-topic"!). Otherwise, if a solution isn't found, there will be nothing left to do but create our own LEAGUE.
P.S.: I'm not speaking here as a clan member (if needed, I'll post in this topic without a signature); I'm speaking as a forum user!!! (There, I said it:))

We need somewhere to discuss this madness, and the advantage of this topic is that everyone can express their opinion here!

don't be rude, you're annoying everyone!

I apologize for not asking your permission, oh great one:smile41: :smile41: :smile41: :smile41: :smile25:

.... I already said - if something doesn't suit you, no one is holding you here.... personally, we are happy with everything: LZMС and GI, the clan system, tournaments, etc...... but for some reason, everything is not right for you... you feel like you're being oppressed... where and in what way??? please show me!!!!!!!!!!!

honestly, following Tako's advice, I didn't want to write anything more.... but I just can't ignore this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:smile10: :smile10:

Gentlemen. LZMS is a voluntary organization; if you don't want to join, don't. Compliance with LZMS decisions applies only to members. Any questions? What "protection from LZMS actions" are you talking about? It's as if LZMS is going to take control of everyone and ban those who disagree...
Please read the ADDRESS by the founder of LZMS, Alex Pank (in the post "The One Who..." in the "LZMS Meetings" thread).

I suggest that all those who disagree create their own organization, the opposite of LZMS.
If LZMS is "+", then I propose creating "-".

+ gentlemen, LZMS is a voluntary organization that brings stability and peace to its members (ideally).
A counter-LZMS should be an organization that brings discord, strife, revolutions, and "comrades! The illegal LZMS regime will be overthrown! Hooray, comrades!" to its members?
Those who disagree should not join and can even wish LZMS ill and create their own, LZMS-like organizations. If they don't want to join an existing, more or less well-established organization on equal terms.
P.S.
In my opinion, this topic is a tool for stirring up flame and inter-clan discord.

And I'm not just kicking you out for no reason; you're being stubborn like a sheep. You insist that your LZMС is absolutely necessary for the forum, and what's more, you don't even want to listen. It would be different if you said, "Let's calmly discuss what's wrong and how we can improve it," and listened to others; maybe you'd hear something useful. But instead, you were yelling yesterday that your LZMС is perfect and that as soon as everyone joins it, all the problems will be solved. Okay, let's not dwell on the past. I'm not going to stoop to your level, and I'll raise your BD as a first step towards resolving inter-clan conflicts with the new league.

Please forgive me, I didn't ask for your permission, oh great one:smile41: :smile41: :smile41: :smile41: :smile25:

That's exactly the point – I forgot about asking for permission! I didn't want to write anything, but you forced me to – you're acting like you know everything and have seen everything, like you're some important, multi-story building!

SoulDrinker, you have excellent ideas, but the question is, you're directing them in the wrong way. You're acting on instinct, following the crowd: "My clan is against it, another one is against it... so I'll be against it too." That's why I'm just trying to dissuade you. But you all want to start a revolution. Just know that your revolution won't lead to anything. Because the core of this forum... the majority of it knows what difficulties had to be overcome to even have clans on HW. And Alexey did an incredible job creating the Guild Interface and the Clan Management System. And you want to destroy all of that in one fell swoop. It's pointless. ;)

knows everything, has seen everything!!!!!

I know everything, I've seen everything... at least since June 29, 2006. That was long before the creation of clans. So, draw your own conclusions....

If nothing can be changed in the existing league, what should you do? ... That's right! Create a new league!

If nothing can be changed in the League of Clans, what should be done? ... That's right!
CREATE A NEW LEAGUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why can't anything be changed? Who told you that? You can, but only at the League of Clans council, where 2 members from each clan (that has joined the League of Clans) are present... as it should be.

And creating a new league... then the question is, what is it for? What will it be like?

I agree with the previous speaker. WHEN you prove that you are better than the League of Mapmakers (LMS), and that LMS (please read the League's charter! I beg you!) is bad... then you can organize an opposition. But as it is... "opposition just for the sake of opposition" is a dead end, leading to flame wars. And WHEN you convince at least 51% of the clans that you are better, I will acknowledge that you are better. And I will join the opposition against you, with a program and methods. Power changes. What I described is a "cycle of power in the people." Gentlemen. THE LMS CHARTER AND ITS POLICIES! READ THE CHARTER! THE CHARTER, THE CHARTER, AND NO IDEAS! THE CHARTER, GENTLEMEN, IS EVERYTHING TO YOU! You are simply saying things that contradict the charter and the idea of LMS. + Did anyone other than Rapper bother to read my post?

That's the point – there are only two of us (for example, I can't because I'm not yet aware of all the events here), and if someone just wants to express their opinion (for example, I'm not saying I didn't read beforehand what Alexei Punk suggested), we had a discussion yesterday (emotional, but still a discussion, which implies that others will come in, read it, and express their opinion), but what do I see today – NOTHING.

maybe I created the topic in the wrong section… few people will see it…!!!!!! because topics in the “off-topic” section don’t appear in “new messages”… but on the other hand, it’s probably right… if you created a topic in the inter-clan section, everyone would just get even more annoyed….