How many factions are there? — General

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6 was more than enough

2.8% 4 votes

Having 7 races now is more than enough

2.1% 3 votes

8 races: 4 good + 4 evil

15.5% 22 votes

9 races: 3 good + 3 evil + 3 neutral

17.6% 25 votes

10 races is just right!

7% 10 votes

the more, the better

54.9% 78 votes

Vayshan

18 years ago

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Nah... It seems now that the more factions there are, the better and more interesting it is, and so on. But in reality, you'll play for a month, and it will all get boring. New factions will stop being new, and the interest will fade. In my opinion, right now, the balance is perfect: four factions that are conventionally evil, and four that are conventionally good. And if you were to add any, it should be at most two – one good and one evil.

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-=AnGrY El'F=-

18 years ago

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In my opinion, even 4 standard races would be enough. Humans, elves, dwarves, and undead (or demons). Why create forest elves, night elves, and blood elves? Doesn't that seem pointless? The same goes for dividing one human race into three: paladins, archers, and some kind of griffin riders. Or dividing the undead into ghosts, skeletons, and zombies.

Vayshan

18 years ago

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Well, this is also an overcorrection, but in the opposite direction. There are too few. And in general, the most popular fantasy races were chosen for the game. For example, dark elves are not only in Heroes... Wait. What other night elves, blood elves? Two types of elves, and that's it. Even Tolkien had two types of elves, but the second ones weren't called dark elves, but something else.

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eXeCuToR

18 years ago

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-=AnGrY El'F=-;134153

In my opinion, even 4 standard races would be enough. Humans, elves, dwarves, undead (or demons). Why make forest elves, night elves, blood elves?! Doesn't it seem stupid to you? The same goes for dividing one human race into 3: paladins, archers, and some kind of griffons. Or dividing the undead into ghosts, skeletons, and zombies.

Of course, doing it that way would be just silly, but four races are still too few. And the fact that there was a division into forest and dark elves is normal; both of these races have long been widely known, so there was no division of one race here. And four races are much more diverse than four.

Drnik

18 years ago

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Yes, 4 is too few; we shouldn't go to extremes! The most popular ones are: Humans, Elves, Dwarves, Mages, Undead, Demons, Orcs... These races seem to be the foundation of the entire fantasy world. Reducing the list would lead to forum threads with suggestions to create new castles, races, etc. Increasing (significantly increasing) the number would lead to all races becoming too similar, which would result in boredom and monotony in the gameplay.

Майор Вихрь

18 years ago

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However, even now, with 8 factions already available, many feel that it's not enough. Looking at two threads about creating a swamp faction and a second Dungeon faction, and the number of forum users supporting these ideas, we can conclude that 8 is still too few. Personally, I played Heroes 3 for quite a long time and now I miss the swamp faction. You know, I even had this thought that instead of the dwarves, they should have made a swamp faction...
By the way, the developers came up with a great idea to add one faction in each new expansion pack. On the one hand, this is commercially beneficial for them, and on the other hand, we get tired of all the factions after some time, but later an expansion pack with a new faction comes out and introduces some variety into the game.

Vayshan

18 years ago

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But a swamp is impossible in the fifth installment of the game, if only because what kind of swamp would it be without hydras? And hydras in the world of Ashan have always lived in the Dungeon.

Landalos

18 years ago

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More factions – more variety – more beautiful units =P

Майор Вихрь

18 years ago

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Don't say that, Vaishan. The swamp can easily do without hydras. Don't believe me? Then come here: /topic/2813/

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Rogov

18 years ago

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Vayshan;134119

Nah... It seems now that the more factions there are, the better and more interesting it is, and so on. But in reality, you'll play for a month, and it will all get boring. New factions will stop being new, and the interest will fade. In my opinion, right now it's just right: four factions that are conventionally evil, and four that are conventionally good. And if you add any, then at most two. One good and one evil.

Simply brilliantly said!))) Right now, we're playing, and it's not getting boring. If they add factions, it will get boring literally within a month!)))

eXeCuToR

18 years ago

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Well, eight is enough for me, but if they add well-designed factions, I wouldn't mind. The game won't become less interesting; it will become boring if the factions are not well-designed and become tiresome quickly, and creating many interesting factions is very difficult.

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Rogov

18 years ago

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eXeCuToR;134559

Well, eight factions are enough for me, but if they add well-designed factions, I wouldn't mind. The game won't become less interesting. It will become boring if the factions are not well-designed and quickly become tiresome, and it's very difficult to create many interesting factions.

And at the same time, it's necessary to maintain balance and not go beyond the boundaries of the "Heroes" game world. Although it would be funny if they added cyberpunk to the 5th installment, just for laughs. Like mechs, for example.

eXeCuToR

18 years ago

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Forget cyberpunk in a fantasy setting, and besides, the idea of introducing only one cyberpunk race while the rest of the world remains fantasy doesn't quite work. If it's cyberpunk, it should be in the entire world, but I'm much more drawn to fantasy.

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Vayshan

18 years ago

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Rogov;134418

Simply brilliantly said!))) We're playing it now, and it's not getting boring. If they add a new faction, it will literally get boring within a month!)))

And there's no need to nitpick the words. It's not the game as a whole that will get boring, but the new factions. Or, to put it more clearly... they will become tiresome. Like the current humans, elves, etc.

Драккошка

18 years ago

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If the races are truly unique and well-developed, then you can have a hundred of them – the game won't suffer from it, IMHO. But if there's no originality, no "special touch," then it's better to have fewer races, but well-made ones. Although, of course, it's more fun to play with a large number of fantasy races, with a huge assortment of heroes and creatures, but without overpowered units. So, I'm in favor of creating new races :)
P.S. If you can come up with new, bright, and expressive elves, dragons, and other creatures, then they can be added too. (A very, very big IMHO – you can never have too many elves and dragons :) )