Which level 1 creature is better? — Polls

eXeCuToR

12/1/2007 9:44 PM UTC

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What do you mean? What kind of resilience are you talking about?

Step aside from the way of a better man than you
So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you
Its the servants devotion for the decay
Stand up

There are no flowers on your grave
There are no chains
There I keep chanting for the forgotten name © Amorphis

Landalos

12/2/2007 12:20 AM UTC

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In my opinion, it's the Fairies. Because an unreturned attack for such weak creatures as first-level units... that's awesome :)

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kcfgogbfalgfl

12/2/2007 6:48 AM UTC

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Personally, I think Gnolls are a bit weak, but they have a great design.

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2DDarkKnight

12/2/2007 8:14 AM UTC

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I chose Hobgoblins. They look good when paired with the Barbarian's attack, plus they have high movement speed. However, it's better to use them to attack a target that has already engaged.

Варвары рулят!!

Sforza

12/2/2007 12:54 PM UTC

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Hellish Troglodytes. I'm voting for them after they took Utopia from me on the second week. Here's what happened...
Random map, 200% resources, a great starting location, lots of gold, three Troglodyte huts, and one Harpy nest. Shakti was my starting hero. In the first week, I built Minotaurs and a castle, and captured the neutral town of Fortress.
In the second week, Shakti was level 8, with expertise in Wisdom, Tactics, and Offense. He devoured everything he could reach, and only Utopia remained. He killed the guards blocking the way – Ogres – and wanted to continue. Then, just for fun, I sent in a weak unit – the guards consisted of 2 Gold, 1 Black, 5 Red, and 8 Green Dragons. Stunned by the great start, I decided to try to take Utopia, bought almost all the troops, except for the Medusas, transferred them through a chain to Shakti, and attacked on the sixth day of the second week.
Shakti had 9 Minotaurs, about twenty Beholders, around 25 Harpies (24 + 1), about ten Gnolls, and about twenty Lizardmen (archer lizards). And 287 Red Troglodytes!
The Dragons didn't attack the Troglodytes at first; they only started on the third turn. On the first turn, a Harpy removed the retaliation from the Green Dragons, and the Troglodytes and other units killed 4 Dragons. On the second turn, someone else removed the retaliation from the Red Dragons, and the Troglodytes killed three of them.
Only on the third turn did the other units die, and two Red Dragons attacked the Troglodytes, but the Troglodytes killed them with a retaliatory strike. Then, the Troglodytes attacked the Green Dragons, and only one of them survived.
After that, two Gold, one Black, and one Green Dragon fought for a long time against about 230 Troglodytes and fell bravely. And I had about 120 of them survive. In fact, it cost me more, and I didn't get anything good out of it. But the fact that I managed to take Utopia on the second week impressed me; I couldn't achieve anything similar with other castles.
TROGLODITES!!!!

Can you only vote for them once?

FALLOUT

12/2/2007 1:15 PM UTC

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KING CENTAURS RULE, but if you have to choose from unupgraded ones, then pikemen are good.
Also, fairies are not bad.

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kcfgogbfalgfl

12/2/2007 2:47 PM UTC

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of course, only once.

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65RUS

12/2/2007 4:00 PM UTC

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Sforza;132358

Hellish Troglodyte. I'm voting for them after they took Utopia from me on the second week. Here's what happened...
Random map, 200% resources, just a great starting location, lots of gold, three Troglodyte huts, and one Harpy nest. Shakti was the starting hero. In the first week, I built Minotaurs with a castle and took the neutral town of Fortress.
In the second week, Shakti was level 8, an expert in Wisdom, Tactics, and Offense. He ate everything he could reach, and only Utopia remained. He killed the guards on the road – Ogres – and wanted to continue. Then, just for fun, I sent in a weak unit – the guards were 2 Gold, 1 Black, 5 Red, and 8 Green. Stunned by the good start, I decided to try to take Utopia, bought almost all the troops, except for the Medusas, passed them through a chain to Shakti, and on the sixth day of the second week, I attacked.
Shakti had 9 Minotaurs, a couple of dozen Beholders, about 25 Harpies (24+1), a couple of dozen Gnolls, and a couple of dozen Lizardmen (lizard archers). And 287 Red Troglodytes!
The Dragons didn't attack the Troglodytes; they only started on the third turn. On the first turn, a Harpy removed the retaliation from the Green Dragons, and the Troglodytes and other units eliminated 4 Dragons. On the second turn, someone also removed the retaliation from the Red Dragons, and the Troglodytes took out three of them.
Only on the third turn did the other units die, and two Red Dragons attacked the Troglodytes, but they were eliminated by the Troglodytes' retaliation. Then, the Troglodytes attacked the Green Dragons, and only one of them survived.
Then, two Gold, one Black, and one Green Dragons fought for a long time against about 230 Troglodytes and fell bravely. And I had about 120 of them survive. Actually, it cost me more, and it didn't give me anything good. But the fact that I managed to take Utopia on the second week impressed me; I couldn't do anything like that with other factions.
TROGLODITES!!!!

Can you only vote for them once?

Cool, you got lucky, well done, but I'm sure other factions can do the same.)))

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badping

12/2/2007 4:04 PM UTC

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To be honest, I never understood this logic: why is it necessary to take Utopia as early as possible – in the second or third week, leaving two-thirds of your army there and often a significant part of your main attacking force, in this case – troglodytes.
After all, Lizardmen and Gnolls are one thing, never mind them, but 9 Minotaurs... Who can you rely on if an enemy visits on the third week? :) Which, by the way, is not uncommon at all...

Land aus Blut im Aschenregen,
Wüst und leer und ohne Segen.
Hier bin ich durch dich gefangen,
Muss für dich durchs Feuer gehen.
Du siehst mich in Flammen stehen,
Glühend will ich dich empfangen.

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65RUS

12/2/2007 4:21 PM UTC

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badping;132408

To be honest, I never understood this logic: why is it necessary to capture Utopia as early as possible – in the second or third week, leaving 2/3 of your army there and often a significant part of your main force, in this case – the troglodytes.
After all, Lizardmen and Gnolls are one thing, never mind them, but 9 Minotaurs... Who can you rely on if an enemy visits you in the third week? :) Which, by the way, is not uncommon...

Apparently, he forgot about it, or history is silent about it....

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К. Прутков.

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kcfgogbfalgfl

12/2/2007 5:35 PM UTC

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enemy, in the sense of enemy?

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Yser

12/2/2007 6:04 PM UTC

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I'm voting for Halberdiers. Centaurs are also good because of their speed, but how can you forget about upgraded Faeries – they could change the outcome of a battle (though they're usually eliminated quickly).

Нам хорошо иногда, Богу - всегда.

Счастье - на стороне того, кто доволен :)

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badping

12/2/2007 6:22 PM UTC

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monarh;132437

enemy in the sense of enemy?

No, enemy in the sense of curd cheese.
Well, of course, it's an enemy, who else? :)

Apparently, he forgot about it, or history is silent on the matter.

Apparently, that's the case... :)
It would be interesting to know the outcome of the game...

but how can you forget about the greased fairies – they changed the outcome of the battle (they are usually removed) )))

They remove them, of course, the poor little fairies! But, in my opinion, if you manage to trade 100 Fairies for, say, 2-3 creatures of level 6 or 1-2 monsters of level 7, that's a very profitable trade...
Besides, it's very easy to fight against Greased Fairies at the very beginning of the game, especially in combination with a Grindylow (I like this combination the most). You slow down the enemies and calmly defeat them without any fear of retaliation...
And the hero with Fairies has a very high speed, which allows the Elementalist to regroup quickly or make raids into the enemy's lands. :)

Land aus Blut im Aschenregen,
Wüst und leer und ohne Segen.
Hier bin ich durch dich gefangen,
Muss für dich durchs Feuer gehen.
Du siehst mich in Flammen stehen,
Glühend will ich dich empfangen.

Sforza

12/3/2007 7:33 AM UTC

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2 badping, 2 65RUS

But how can you win without taking any risks? After all, in Utopia, there could have been a book of Earth or Air. If I had left the starting area and an opponent had run there, they would have taken that Utopia. If I had been very cautious, I would have taken a detour, earned some more money, waited until the beginning of the third week, and then taken it.
But that's not the point; we were talking about first-level units. Trogolodites killed dragons, and the other units just stood there as cannon fodder. Trogolodites have a high weekly growth rate and a lot of units come with the heroes. I can't name another castle where, under those conditions, first-level troops could take Utopia. Galtran with skeletons might, provided necromancy is allowed. And that's it, I think.