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#4998
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Evil Lizard
Come on, don't be a coward, damn it, I already said... And not "everyone," but specific individuals like that "student" or "shooter-87." Cowards would just inflict "psychological trauma" on the person... Like, "all men are perverts"...
Anyway, I'll soon get rich from my AI alt account and will be doing experiments just for fun, waiting smile08
Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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Nebok, I've been waiting for your new expansion for two years.
А, вот почему.

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I don't know, in my opinion, if a person doesn't find a joke harmless and gets upset by it, then it's a reason to think about whether the joke is actually that good and if it was worth it.
And if it turned out that some of your jokes had that kind of effect, what would you think?
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Basically, I'll soon get rich from AI alt-accounts and will be doing playthroughs just for fun, waiting for it smile08
Yeah. Detailed description of the playthrough is needed! Who will be "in a good position" and who will be in a bad one. Although, I'll definitely have either someone like Asmidul or someone like Erika. No other options. Just like you. Either Nisho, who's not very interesting, or Raphael, who gathers everyone...
It's strange, by the way, that no "homies" are criticizing Asmidul, considering "his roleplaying." Oh yeah, it's different...
But I'm not you, and therefore, if the characters "don't fit into the world," then there's no point in spoiling the mood for myself and others...

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Nebk has a diverse party. Read about "Shades of Darkness"; there was a party of ten there. Ples is a sensible sword, Ment is a reincarnated character from another world, Aretz is a sensible piece of slime, I am a blind cave-dwelling creature, Frag is an undead bard, and so on. I regret that we didn't finish the game...
А, вот почему.

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Drakkoska
Everyone fits in with Nebk.
Maybe. But since, unlike in a mafia game, there's no control over the GM's actions, there's always a risk of ruining the mood for yourself and others. Especially when the GM is a troll...
I "won't appreciate" any kind of trolling. The rest depends on the situation, but there's always a chance that the GM will "overdo it" one day...

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Drakkosha
Everyone fits in with Nebk. Read Horizon of Darkness; there was a party of ten there. Ples is a sentient sword, Ment is a time traveler from IRL, Aretz is a sentient piece of slime, I am a blind cave-dwelling succubus, Frag is an undead bard, and so on. I regret that we didn't finish playing...
^ So, from this ignoring of my question, I kind of understood something.
When – well, hypothetically, if the scumbag and vile Donald Trump makes a joke on Twitter, and this causes 20,000 people to leave a comment saying that he is a scumbag, then out of the total number of people on Earth, this turns out to be... An online calculator says 0.00025%. Let's assume that a thousand times fewer people read this Twitter, i.e., the percentage is 0.25%.

But this person is still a scumbag and vile, even if everyone else is annoyed and remains silent.
Let's assume that 10 people read the expedition, and of them... well, let's say one is upset by such super-funny jokes, but he remains silent so as not to diminish either his own dignity or the dignity of the one who made the joke. Or the one who joked. This turns out to be 10% of those who did not unsubscribe.
When recalculated to the number of people upset by Trump, this is 800,000 souls.

So, let's say in your creative group – is something like this considered a "yay," even unintentionally? Or is it acceptable? And if it's more than 10%, how would you feel in the place of the joker? I'm just curious, just within the framework of a theory. Honestly, I didn't read ten pages of arguing; I just had a thought based on the last comment I read. If only what is said matters, and, for example, a hysterical reaction occurs outside the text window of the message, then... well, maybe the one who got upset is unbalanced, and not the one who passively acted aggressively? Otherwise, it's not bullying or aggression if the victim remained silent. I think many will agree with me.
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It’s very easy not to spoil other people’s mood – if you don’t like something, just leave it. You need to sort things out if you’ve been overcharged on your bill or underpaid your salary, but here, participation is purely voluntary and free.
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I don’t know, in my opinion, if a person doesn’t find a joke harmless and gets upset about it, then that’s a reason to think about whether the joke was really that good and whether it was worth it. In our creative process, when working on characters, we joke with each other very carefully and only when we know that the author doesn’t mind. And even then, there are sometimes mistakes. But we have a habit of talking to each other directly about what we don’t like, and we listen to each other.
So, I’ll allow myself to be bold and suggest, through direct communication, something to consider further – that was the case with half of your comments in this game.

Стартовый пост - Квенты - Разное - Список НПС - Турнир -
Резара - Аксель - Орвальд - ЭмилияСтэфания - Амвросий - ЛестерАльсираАлария

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No, I really needed to “understand the situation” to grasp the essence of the experience. It’s a “one-time event.” I simply had a wrong idea about the experience, and for some reason, no one explained it to me in a timely manner. But now, I think I understand. So, I won’t spoil anyone’s mood anymore. So, everything is fine now...

For those who didn’t understand: it doesn’t matter to me if it’s Revnya’s, Nebka’s, or someone else’s experience. The main thing here is that the GM acts not even “randomly,” but “according to their own discretion” and does whatever they want. That’s enough...

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It is impossible to control the GM in this game format. Otherwise, it will no longer be a role-playing game, but something else, and it will be very monotonous and boring. After all, it will be necessary to reduce the content, role-playing opportunities, and build customization to a minimum. Because you simply won't be able to fit anything but the minimum into the game rules physically, especially if the GM is doing everything alone.

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^ So, from this ignoring of my question, I kind of understood something.
When - well, conditionally, just based on a large sample - the scoundrel and vile Donald Trump jokes on Twitter, and this upsets 20,000 people who leave a comment saying that he is a jerk, then out of the total number of people on Earth, this turns out to be... An online calculator says 0.00025%. Let's assume that a thousand times fewer people read this Twitter, i.e., the percentage is 0.25%.

But this person is still a scoundrel and vile, even if everyone else is annoyed and remains silent.
Let's assume that 10 people read the expedition, and... well, let's say one of them is upset by such super-funny jokes, but he remains silent so as not to diminish either his own dignity or the dignity of the one who made the joke. This is 10% of those who did not unsubscribe.
When recalculated to the number of people upset by Trump, this is 800,000 people.

So, let's say in your creative group, is something like this considered a "yikes" moment, even unintentionally? Or is it acceptable? And if it's more than 10%, how would you feel in the place of the joker? I'm just curious, just in terms of theory. To be honest, I haven't read ten pages of arguing, I just had a thought based on the last comment I read. If only what is said matters, and, for example, the outburst happened outside the text window of the message, then... well, maybe the one who got upset is unbalanced, and not the one who passively showed aggression? Otherwise, it's not bullying or aggression if the victim remained silent. I think many will agree with me.
It's all simple in the context of interpersonal relationships in small groups of people. If the joker continues to joke, seeing that the target of his joke is offended and doesn't respond, then he is unbalanced. If he doesn't see it, then he also has some problems with his head. It's generally unpleasant to deal with such people. In general, if there is no response to a joke, or if the person is sent away, then a normal person will not continue to joke.
Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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It's all quite simple in the context of interpersonal relationships within small groups of people. If a joker continues to joke, seeing that the target of his joke is offended and doesn't respond well, then he is unbalanced. If he doesn't notice, then he also has some problems. It's generally unpleasant to deal with such people. In general, if a joke isn't met with a joke or someone tells you to go away, a normal person won't continue to joke.
Well, I was just thinking about it, as a thought experiment. Let's say you don't find it unpleasant to deal with someone on the first day. Let's say it's not unpleasant on the seventh, thirtieth, or even sixtieth day – you don't feel the need to tell them to go away because of the constant bullying right here and now. But sooner or later, it will accumulate, right? A person can't tolerate it forever – whether they are a man, a woman, in a creative field, or a practical one. So, it turns out that you still have to tell them to go away. Otherwise, the bully won't get the message. And how else can you act? Imagine yourself in Donald Trump's place, but if it were important for you to hear the opinion of those who are reading you. At least just to understand that you, you scoundrel and vile creature (Donald Trump, I mean), are still causing some people to feel dislike with your jokes, even if they don't express it here and now. Even if these jokes are not active, but passive-aggressive. That is, until you receive feedback – at the very least – you will continue to do it without a shred of empathy, even if, let's say, you, in this example, are Donald Trump, and you were, say, taking antidepressants and being bullied in school. And now, in the moment, you feel some kind of power, or rather, impunity, from the fact that 99.99975% (minus three zeros) of people haven't told you to go away for your specific tweets. I am absolutely sure that he thinks this way: "I was constantly bullied my whole life, and therefore, that's how it should be, and I will do the same at this point in my life, that's human nature." Otherwise, he wouldn't have become Donald Trump. Well... it's true, of course, but if I were in his place (which I will never be), I would think about it a little from this perspective. At least a little. In a creative field, in a practical field, in economics, in psychology – it doesn't matter, even in philology. This would, in any case, be food for thought. And after finishing these reflections, I probably wouldn't consider myself entitled to judge certain events from the point of view of morality or empathy, because I would definitely know that I don't have it, and therefore, I don't have such rights. Well, luckily, I'm not in such a position, and there's no point in me stressing myself out with something like that. But the thought occurred to me, yes. I like to philosophize sometimes.
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Ah yes, I almost forgot, I need to acknowledge Kosha's efforts. Yes... I'm so touched... a single male tear rolls down my cheek... such love... such devotion to my Lunarian girls... it's a pity that this happy couple can't end up in my hands... I would show them the full depth of my mutual love and tenderness! Dark passion, I would even say! My creative work and Kosha... this is an eternal union at the level of merging souls into a single whole. Such deep feelings... even Yashchur is not capable of giving Revan something like that! Kosha's love for Keliandra and Kamistella... this is a tangible value, this is power! It was all worth it. It's worth living for such fans!
Карты для героев 5

"Плата за любовь"
"Путь некроманта"
"Темные грани"
"Рок Гримхейма"
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If your setting invents underwear, I might consider it.
А, вот почему.

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He mentioned somewhere that no one will be wearing underwear in his expansion. So you should relax, and Astrala can be praised for honestly describing his expansion worlds... smile04

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Well, I was just thinking about it, as a thought experiment. Let's say it's not unpleasant for you to deal with someone on the first day. Let's say it's not unpleasant on the seventh, the thirtieth, even the sixtieth - you don't feel the need to tell them off because of the occasional bullying right here and now.
But sooner or later, it does accumulate, doesn't it? A person can't tolerate it forever - whether they're a man, a woman, in a creative field, or a practical one. So, it seems that you still have to tell them off. Otherwise, the bully won't get the message. But how else can you act?
It sounds like the bully understands everything and intentionally chose as a target someone who won't immediately tell them off, but will accumulate it and eventually snap. After which, the bully will point a finger and shout about how that person is inadequate, and that they were just joking 🧐 In principle, that's usually how it happens.
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Imagine yourself in Donald Trump's place, but if it were important for you to hear the opinions of those who read you. At least just to understand that you, you scoundrel and vile creature (Donald Trump, I mean), are still causing displeasure to some people with your jokes, even if they don't express it here and now. Even if these jokes are not active, but passive-aggressive. That is, until you receive feedback - at the very least - you will continue to do it without a shred of empathy, even if you assume that you - the same Donald Trump in this example - were, say, taking antidepressants and were bullied in school. And now, in the moment, you feel some kind of power, or rather, impunity, from the fact that 99.99975% (minus three zeros) of people didn't tell you off for your specific tweets. I am absolutely sure that he thinks like this: "I've been getting crap thrown at me my whole life, and therefore that's how it should be, and I will do the same at this point in my life, that's human nature." Otherwise, he wouldn't have become Donald Trump.
Well... it's fair, of course, but if I were in that Donald's place (which I will never be), I would think about it a little from that perspective. At least a little. In a creative field, in a practical field, in economics, in psychology - it doesn't matter, even in philology. This would be food for thought in any case. And after finishing these reflections, I probably wouldn't consider myself entitled to judge certain events from the point of view of morality or empathy, because I would definitely know that I don't have it, and therefore, I don't have such rights.
Well, luckily I'm not in such positions, and there's no point in me straining myself with something like that. But the thought occurred to me at the moment, yes. I like to philosophize sometimes.
First of all: in my message, I was talking about small groups of people who communicate with each other in person. So, the example with Trump is not relevant here. Because in a large sample, someone will definitely be offended by your existence.

Secondly: in personal communication, a mentally healthy person immediately understands from non-verbal reactions, from the tone of voice, even from messages in a messenger, that person X is offended by the jokes. This is also feedback; if the joker doesn't read it, then yes, they have problems with their head. There is no need for any feedback in the form of a registered letter with a notification that you, sir, are supposedly offending me with your humor. Otherwise, it's like with femoids, where you need to get active consent and agree on every action in writing, with audio and video recording, notarized, otherwise it's rape.

And then it's about the fact that the one who is being bullied would do the same if they could, or what? I didn't understand this point.
Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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