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Offline Ley
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Indeed: will player B have a chance to "eliminate" all of player A's units? In other words, if, for example, player A eliminates 9 out of 10 of their units, and then player B can defeat all 9 of them one by one, is that how it works?
"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."
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I can play Heroes of Might and Magic if needed; I'm available on weekdays from 9 AM to 6 PM. I usually play random maps, but I can try playing with fixes.

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Indeed: will player B have a chance to "eliminate" all of "A"? I.e., if, for example, "A" first eliminates 9 out of 10 participants, and then "B" can defeat all 9 in stages, is that how it works?

That's correct!

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I have some questions regarding "your rules":
1. What templates are allowed?
3. I would like to get a more detailed explanation of the following point: "Developing the following heroes is prohibited." Up to what level can they be leveled up, and when should they be dismissed?
I am ready to play the first game this Saturday (December 1st). Who will I be playing against? :)
according to the rules - you can kick, but there will be no templates. 2 I will correct the point about heroes in the evening, first game? commendable, but the lineup has not yet been determined, there will probably be a draw, the regulations have not been thought out properly - I insist on this point:)
В. Уэйтс©
Но поскольку я нищий,
у меня лишь есть мечты.
Я разостлал свои мечты пред вашими ногами.
Ступайте бережно, ибо вы ступаете по моим мечтам.

временно ушел с форума, переодически заглядываю. кому нужен пишите в скайп ewgeniy1985. в аське 384385000 очень редко.
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2 Volodymyr: Here it is – the highlight of such a tournament! Amazing :). Thank you for the explanation.
"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."
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It seems like there was initially an agreement to play only by our rules, right? Or am I misunderstanding something?
And what's happening now?!
- The first game is played according to their rules! (The "bay" rules - which are new to us.)
- The second game is played according to our rules - but they are essentially their old rules.
- The third (extra) game is also played according to their rules, in my opinion.
P.S. I specifically wrote "Old" and put it in parentheses to indicate that it's essentially based on the well-known HeroesPortal. Of course, some things have changed, but the essence remains the same. As for the 4 minutes, I'm not sure how you played, but we've already raised our level of play to 2 minutes, and some of us play in 1 minute per turn :) (And by the way, all of this is on SoD, without the "convenient interface") ;)
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According to the rules, you can attack with melee units, but there won't be any templates.

What do you mean? What RMG file will it be? A standard 3DO?

Even if it's a standard map, it's generated from a template. (You can press I and read "Template such and such...")

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- This is the second game according to our rules, but they are essentially their old rules.

On www.heroes.by, the rules never included:
- 2 minutes per turn
- Conflux ban
- Building a Guild just to use it
- No template selection in the rules

Please, change them to something else. :)
Let's focus on fixes, even though we've never played with them. That way, we can exchange experiences.
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For goodness sake, please change them to something else. :)
Let's focus on fixes instead, even though we haven't played them. That way, we can exchange experiences.
There was a suggestion to only play on the test server with fixes based on our rules.
As you can see, the suggestion was rejected. I can't say anything about the templates; there's a very high probability that there will be templates (or 1 template).

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It's so hard to please everyone, it's a nightmare. Some want templates, others want fixes. I'm all for a simple random approach – there are restarts, so there's no need to cry about balance and other things.
В. Уэйтс©
Но поскольку я нищий,
у меня лишь есть мечты.
Я разостлал свои мечты пред вашими ногами.
Ступайте бережно, ибо вы ступаете по моим мечтам.

временно ушел с форума, переодически заглядываю. кому нужен пишите в скайп ewgeniy1985. в аське 384385000 очень редко.
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I'm all for the most ordinary randomness.

Please explain to me what this is! I don't know.
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Offline Kamikaze
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Please explain to me what this is! I don't know.
You know perfectly well! It's just a random map generator, where the program randomly selects from a huge number of built-in templates and randomly fills it. In other words, it's just a SOD-style random map, without an RMG file.
I'm voting against stupid random maps from SOD. That is, I'm in favor of standard templates like 2SM4D. ;)

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You know perfectly well! Ordinary random generation is when the program itself chooses a random template from a huge number of built-in templates and fills it randomly. That is, simply a SOD-style random generator, without an RMG file.
I vote against the stupid random generators of SOD. That is, in favor of standard templates like 2SM4D. ;)

Lka without metro.
5-6, is that a huge number in your opinion? :)
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There are a lot of very amusing templates, like Dragons, for example :). Also, sometimes the map generation produces almost no monsters. It's fun to live like that, in general :)

Although, on the other hand, it doesn't really change much; you just need to extract the standard rmg.txt file from the embedded lod files beforehand and see which templates are generated under those conditions. And then, manually or using a template editor program, examine the template structure. They are almost all very simple; the complexity is at the level of cm files, and they don't really need much testing.
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Man, I'd also like to participate. I just need to install the expansion. The only problem is time, so I can't promise anything, but I definitely want to and will participate if I have the slightest opportunity!
Step aside from the way of a better man than you
So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you
Its the servants devotion for the decay
Stand up

There are no flowers on your grave
There are no chains
There I keep chanting for the forgotten name © Amorphis
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It seems like there was initially an agreement to play only by our rules, right? Or am I missing something?

Second!
And what's happening?!
- The first game is played according to their rules! (The "brawl" rules - new to us.)
- The second game is played according to our rules - but they are essentially their old rules.
- The third (extra) game is also played according to their rules, IMHO.

What doesn't suit you? Write specifically what you would like the regulations to be.
but we have already raised our level of play to 2 minutes

More likely, you've lowered it.
and some of us play in just 1 minute per turn :)

That's even better for us!

2ewgeniy
If your rules don't include templates, I want to see a description of all the ones that can be generated.
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The templates will be as follows: 2SM4D, 2SM4D(3).
This is my suggestion!

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Also, sometimes there are generations with practically no monsters on the map. It's fun to live like that, in general.
Yes, and they also cram two towns in there. Plus, all the units join up in one or two turns.

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