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Offline gamer-kirill
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Yes, upgrading Gogs is a thankless task. These small creatures are never idle throughout the game, throwing flames at the enemy and taking the first attacks.
Although I prefer Gogs over Magogs. I never upgrade them. Of course, this is a debatable point, but it can be very frustrating when you can't attack with a group of Gogs because you're afraid of hitting your own units.
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Although I prefer Gogs over Magogs. I never upgrade them. Of course, this is debatable, but it can be very frustrating when you can't attack with a group of Gogs because you're afraid of hitting your own units.
Same here. With Liches, this feature is well-organized, and in Heroes 5, for example, upgraded Succubi don't hit "their own" units. But Magogs, it seems, can move around for a round or two while their own troops are engaged with the enemy – otherwise, an unpleasant process of self-destruction begins. :(
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Unlucky with the guild.
Got an expert in fire magic, but couldn't use him.
If I had gotten a berserker, the game would have been different.
Or, considering the town portal, I could have thinned out the efreets first with Armageddon, and then finished them off with Final Battle.

Орден Феникса – харизматический :) лидер
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Bravo! It’s been a while since we’ve seen such detailed online reports... :) You can tell it’s the work of a master theorist... :D
If it’s not a secret, where are you from?

To be honest, I think I wrote too much. But usually there are too many theoretical discussions, and here is a real game with an instructive outcome.
By the way, I constantly use your reference guide - it's a very useful thing :)

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You were unlucky with the guild.
You got an Expert of Fire, but couldn't use it.
If you had gotten a Berserker, the game would have been different.
Or, considering the town portal, you could have thinned out the Efreet with Armageddon first, and then finished them off with Final Battle.

I was really counting on this, which is why I built the guild.
21 Efreet could withstand several Armageddons.
I also built up to level 5, hoping they might give me Implosion or Fire Elementals, but they gave me Sacrifice :smile07:
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How do you like the Devils in the first week?

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I played 7 test games on 160% difficulty with strong monsters.
I managed to get Devils twice! If we add the possibility of restarts, the probability will probably be 50/50.

Starting hero - Octavia, bonus - mercury.

Prerequisites for the strategy: Gogs are built in the city, spawning on the surface, a large respawn area, and one of the heroes in the tavern is an elemental.

Then I immediately buy 2-3 additional heroes, with whom I quickly gather resources. I buy out the Gogs for the main hero and fight only when it is really necessary - for money or mercury. No distractions for scrolls, sanctuaries, and other nonsense - you need to clearly plan every turn.

If Gogs are built in the castle, the sequence is as follows:
+1000, Guild level 1, Demons, Ifrits, Pitfiends, reserve day (if necessary, you can build a market) and on the 7th day, Devils (!)

If it is clear that it will not be possible to get Devils, then we switch to Castle with Ifrits and get the standard option - 6 Ifrits in the second week.
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That's all correct, of course, but it's as old as the world. Although developing in a different way is equivalent to losing...
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Offline Друг Хозяина зверей
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I'M HERE!
Yes, I agree that playing as Dungeon is a bit challenging, but with the right tactics, I even managed to defeat Temple(!), which is indeed problematic.
Otherwise, the only concern is with Necropolis... (why? It's a secret!)
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It would be very interesting and curious to find someone in this thread who loves playing as Inferno! Where are you?

Not all is so bleak, gentlemen!
Inferno is a worthy castle.
DEMONOLOGY is the key!

With skillful use, that's 40-60 demons on the second week!
and that takes down any consa. And on 1-3-1, any Dragon Utopia!

Starting heroes
Pyrra
Marius
Nimus
All imho :)
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Not everything is so sad, gentlemen!
Inferno is a worthy castle.
DEMONOLOGY is the key!

With skillful use, that's 40-60 demons by the second week!
and that beats any conclave. And on 1-3-1, any Dragon Utopia!

Starting heroes
Pyrra
Marius
Nimus
All imho :)
My second favorite city is Inferno. Do you know how I completed the "Armageddon's Blade" campaign? I simply captured several Infernos, placed portals in them, and that way I could quickly assemble an armada.
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My second favorite town is Inferno. You know how I played through the "Armageddon's Blade" campaign? I just captured a few Inferno castles, placed portals in them, and that way I could quickly assemble an army.
Well, maybe that's why they're good to have, but still, it's more suitable for HotA maps.
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Not everything is so sad, gentlemen!
Inferno is a worthy castle.
DEMONOLOGY decides!

With skillful use, that's 40-60 demons on the second week!
and that beats any consa. And on 1-3-1, any Dragon Utopia!

Starting heroes
Pyrra
Marius
Nimus
All imho :)
+1 Inferno is very strong on Soda with skillful play, and just like with necros—the longer the game drags on, the stronger and stronger Inferno becomes, and all the harder it is to kill (demons, when there are many of them, are a very serious force)
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Yes, I agree that playing as Inferno is quite challenging.

The cities of Inferno, in my opinion, are not Hell. :) They are more like places where demonic forces have broken through into the mortal world. That is, the territories of Eofol, I think.
With skillful use, you can have 40-60 demons by the second week!

How is that possible, I wonder? By killing all the demons, including Ifrits, Gogs, and Dogs?
Land aus Blut im Aschenregen,
Wüst und leer und ohne Segen.
Hier bin ich durch dich gefangen,
Muss für dich durchs Feuer gehen.
Du siehst mich in Flammen stehen,
Glühend will ich dich empfangen.
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Offline Levitat
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Inferno is a very interesting faction. Playing as them is enjoyable. Having around 60 demons by the end of the second week is very cool, because building Pits requires so many resources. In the first week, I always try to build Ifrits + a Stronghold, which makes it much easier for the hero to play and move around.
There is a campaign called "A Song of Valorin," and on the last map, you have to defeat Inferno – the main boss has 1000 Devils + a lot of other units – in other words, it's a lot of fun. Archmage is great, and it's easy to play, but it takes a long time.
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In my opinion, Inferno cities are not Hell. :) They are more like places where demonic forces have broken through into the mortal world. That is, territories of Eofol, it seems.


What do you mean by that? By killing all the Demons, including Ifrits, Gogs, and Dogs?

Do you think that demons are only made from native Inferno creatures? What about the army of the second hero on the right in the tavern, the troops from neutral or captured towns and villages, or the troops taken from various hidden places – did you forget about them?
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Don't you think demons are only made from native Inferno creatures? And what about the army of the second hero on the right in the tavern, the troops from neutral or captured towns and villages, the troops taken from various hidden places – did you forget about them?

No, I understand that perfectly... Of course, there will be many demons, but so many... and that early in the game? In principle, I'm not saying that it's completely impossible, it just looks very unrealistic. More precisely, it depends on a lot of luck, and as far as I understand, to use this tactic, you'll have to give up the standard development path for Inferno.
After all, 40 Demons is no joke, how many "sacrifices" are needed to summon such an army... and how much money and other resources... I think it's easier to use that money to develop your town normally.
Besides, let's say we take Utopia with such an army. But what will the losses be, and most importantly, what's the point?
Land aus Blut im Aschenregen,
Wüst und leer und ohne Segen.
Hier bin ich durch dich gefangen,
Muss für dich durchs Feuer gehen.
Du siehst mich in Flammen stehen,
Glühend will ich dich empfangen.
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