Tactics for playing against a human opponent (in the 3rd game). — Tactics

Ley

11/23/2007 11:29 AM UTC

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Sure. You just didn't mention the possibility right away, and I didn't quite understand... I thought it was something specific to the hero, that's what happened... :)

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Kamikaze

11/23/2007 11:52 AM UTC

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Minotaurs with a Castle on the first week? - I think it's only possible with luck. ;) On the second week, you can take whatever you want, right? - Naga Bank with 30 Nagas or Conservatory with 200 Griffons? I'd love to hear a description of the battle.

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Forrest

11/23/2007 12:13 PM UTC

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Kamikaze;129578

On the second week, you can take whatever you want, right? - a Nagabanka with 30 Nagas or a Conservatory with 200 Griffons? I'd be happy to hear a description of the battle.

Shakti 6-3-2-(20), 6th level, expert attack against a Nagabanka, max.
200+1-1-1-1-1 upgraded Troglodytes. Troglodyte attack is 13 (due to the specialty +2+2, which equals the Nagas' defense in this case).

Our main stack deals damage with a flash: U = (3*200) (pure damage from Troglodytes) + 3*200*0.3 (what the expert offense gives) = 780
So, we attack, minus the leftmost stack. (speed 6 for Nagas, 5 for Troglodytes)
We fix them in place with single attacks. Then, we wait and eliminate two more stacks. I think it won't be difficult for anyone to try.

The damage to the Griffons in the Conservatory will be U = 3*200*1.25 (13 attack of the Troglodyte - 8 defense of the Griffon, 5*0.05%) + 600*0.3 (bonus from offense) = 930
I think it's clear that the Troglodytes will win. Maybe a little slow haste and more mana thanks to the mana vortex.

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cR@3y 678098

11/23/2007 12:54 PM UTC

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Forrest;129592

Shakti 6-3-2-(20) Level 6 expert attack against nagabanks max.
200+1-1-1-1-1 upgraded troglodytes. Trogs attack 13 (due to specialty +2+2, which equals the nagas' defense in this case).

Our main stack deals damage with U=(3*200) (pure trog damage + 3*200*0.3 (what the expert offense gives) = 780
That is, we attack, minus the leftmost stack. (speed 6 for nagas, 5 for us).
We fix them in place with single attacks. Then we wait and minus another 2 stacks. I think it won't be difficult for anyone to try.

Damage to griffins in the reserve will be U=3*200*1.25 (13 attack of the trog - 8 defense of the griffin, 5*0.05%) + 600*0.3 (bonus from offense) = 930
I think it's clear that the trogs will win. Maybe a little slow haste and more mana thanks to mana vortex.

Checked.
Without magic, I was able to defeat 15 nagas (3 - upgraded). Now I'll try with magic.

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With magic, the losses were much reduced.

Kamikaze

11/23/2007 12:55 PM UTC

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Everything works, I just needed to check it first! But bless, I think it will be harder to get than 10 gems :D

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Gynnar

11/24/2007 12:25 AM UTC

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Everything works, I just needed to check it first! But Bless, I think it will be harder to get... than 10 gems :D

Bless? Is it really hard to get on Sode????? :eek:
And you forgot about the scrolls, and you don't remember about the towers with first-level magic, and you also don't remember about the guild upgrades in secondary castles and villages, or simply hiring a hero with the "scholar" specialty from another hero (like the diplomatic Adela from Castle). Of course, if you play with only one hero and try to build a Capitol only on the "first" castle, then it will be difficult for you, but in any other case, on Sode, with its scrolls, it should be very difficult not to get a Bless on the second hero (and it's not just bad luck that you won't find a Bless - the chance of this, if you play normally, is zero (read what I wrote in the "tactics for playing as the Stronghold" section), but that you won't be able to get a hero with the "scholar" specialty, and after getting a Bless (in a guild, or in a first-level tower), you won't be able to quickly train him with Shakter.

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