Which third-level creature is the best? — Polls

eXeCuToR

11/17/2007 9:16 PM UTC

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And nothing immediately defeats them; by the time you reach them, they will have already decimated half the army.

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65RUS

11/19/2007 3:24 PM UTC

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So, should we eliminate the first elves? That's funny. eXeCuToR, you're right, they'll wipe out half the army! I think we shouldn't judge archers and warriors together, even if they're all level 3, but I think we need to consider them separately!

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РУХ-ЧУДИЩЕ-ОГР

11/19/2007 5:10 PM UTC

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What about dragonflies? They can take down elves.

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65RUS

11/19/2007 6:25 PM UTC

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RUH-CHUDISCHE-OGR;128254

What about dragonflies? They can take down elves.

Right away? No, they won't.
If I remember correctly, there's no penalty for them in melee combat (against elves).

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РУХ-ЧУДИЩЕ-ОГР

11/19/2007 7:06 PM UTC

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Even so, dragonflies in close combat can cast spells and will almost certainly defeat the elves.

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65RUS

11/19/2007 7:23 PM UTC

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RUH-CHUDISCHE-OGR;128308

Still, dragonflies in close combat can cast spells and will almost certainly defeat the elves.

I will run a test: 1 vs. 1, 10 vs. 10, 100 vs. 100. I'll let you know tomorrow.

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РУХ-ЧУДИЩЕ-ОГР

11/19/2007 8:00 PM UTC

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I will test it too!
But I will also add a test of population versus population, and the same test, but with ten times more units.

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PoisonProIsen

11/19/2007 8:37 PM UTC

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In a one-on-one fight, the Great Eye or whatever it's called from the Dungeon wins. Here's why: (high speed, shoots, 22 health, high stats 10-8, no melee penalty). It can get close to an Elf and beat it, it can take down a Griffon with ranged attacks, and it can simply overpower a Serpent in melee. And not to mention its usefulness as a combat unit in an army; it's probably right after the Royal Elf!

РУХ-ЧУДИЩЕ-ОГР

11/19/2007 8:39 PM UTC

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Maybe you're right....
The tests will decide everything....

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Source

11/19/2007 9:08 PM UTC

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In my opinion, Cerberus deals massive damage and can easily defeat any enemy. It has a good amount of health, can reach a Beholder or Elf in just two turns, and will destroy them! Griffons are also quite strong, with a lot of health, they can retaliate against all enemies, have high speed, and their attack and defense are also good.

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Ley

11/20/2007 8:33 AM UTC

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65RUS;128295

Right away? Nope, they won't handle it!
If I remember correctly, there's no penalty for them in melee (for Elves).

Looks like your memory is failing you...:D

Elves will be completely crushed by the Draconians. Fact.

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PoisonProIsen;128355

He'll get close to the Elf and beat him.

Why would he do that?!

PoisonProIsen;128355

He'll shoot down the Griffon, and simply defeat the Serpent in melee.

They won't be able to handle the Griffon and the "Serpent"...

PoisonProIsen;128355

The Royal Elf!

Does such a creature even exist...? In any case, you're saying that it will tear apart a great Elf and a royal Griffon, so you're contradicting yourself...

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kcfgogbfalgfl

11/20/2007 1:09 PM UTC

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I suggest conducting a test on all three levels: by characteristics and by population.

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Qwerty

11/20/2007 1:25 PM UTC

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Grand Elves deal 4 times less damage in melee combat. That's the situation. This also applies to the upgraded Tier 2 archers from the Knight's Castle. This also applies to the second heroes. That's the situation again.

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kcfgogbfalgfl

11/20/2007 1:52 PM UTC

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if it's a one-on-one battle (which is very rare), then almost all factions will defeat the High Elves.

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Source

11/20/2007 2:35 PM UTC

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here is the answer: if we consider the base increase – without a Citadel or Castle, then here it is:
1. Cerberus (+5)
2. Griffin (+7)
3. Golem (+6)
4. Elf (+7)
5. Serpent (+8)
6. Beholder (+7)
7. Ghost (+7)
8. Orc (+7)
I conducted battles both 1 on 1 and based on the base increase. Individually with each one. In total, it turns out like this.