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Which Tier 4 unit is the best?
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Crusader
10.8% 7 votes
Sniper
33.8% 22 votes
Silver Pegasus
3.1% 2 votes
Archmage
1.5% 1 vote
horned demon
0% 0 votes
vampire lord
35.4% 23 votes
Queen Medusa
6.2% 4 votes
Ogre Mage
4.6% 3 votes
Great Basilisk
0% 0 votes
energy elemental
3.1% 2 votes
golden golem
1.5% 1 vote
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Knyaz_OMEGA;125296
Ogres can also put up a decent fight against vampires - they have a lot of hit points, high attack, plus Bloodlust, while the others are just easily defeated.


Maybe I'm wrong, but I think Bloodlust doesn't work in battles against the undead.
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Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that Bloodlust doesn't work during battles with undead creatures.
Bloodlust increases the attack level! That's all! And why shouldn't it work against the undead?
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Ogres don't cast spells on themselves; I already wrote about it.
RUH-CHUDISCHE-OGR;125345
Besides, if you've taken a Sniper, then you might as well include a Troll))) And a Troll will tear a Vampire apart in a 1v1 fight. Troll, troll, and troll again.
Troll, level 5. Learn the basics before you write.

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Troll, level 5. Learn the basics before you write.
Okay, then put them at level 5, and they'll be in second place, right behind the Gorgons. Although, in "In the Wake of Gods," trolls are placed at level 4.
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Then put them in the 5th one, and they'll be right behind the Gorgons in second place))) Although in In the Wake of Gods, trolls are placed on the 4th level.
In the Wake of Gods is heresy. Let's discuss the strength of trolls in the appropriate thread, because I disagree with you.

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Generally speaking, out of the four tiers, I also like the Crusaders the most, but vampires are cooler, that's a fact.
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Vampire Lords are difficult to kill, but Crusaders perform better against units from which health cannot be drained.

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What are you guys talking about!? Minotaurs, Ogres, and Cruisers one-shot Vampires in one or two hits, and they won't even have time to drain anything with their weak stats and damage. Vampires are only useful for accumulating skeletons, breaking through defenses, and dealing with Utopias and Ducks without losing skeletons or other undead units. In a fight against an opponent, they get crushed by level 5 units, let alone level 6, which doesn't even pay attention to them!
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It's strange, the map is the same, the terrain is the same. Although, it depends on who you're playing as and what path you attack from, right? I'm playing as the orange faction and attacking in a straight line! What about you?

"""See, this test was conducted by pitting two heroes against each other, as I suspected. In this situation, the vampires actually won, and it's hard to explain how. Perhaps the computer's actions depend entirely on the obstacles on the battlefield, or maybe there's something else we don't know... In my example, I simply placed 3 monsters (vampires, sharpshooters, and golems, which naturally join), 2 castles, and 2 heroes with 0 stats and no artifacts or secondary skills. So, if you recruit vampires and attack golems, the golems lose in auto-battle."""

Sorry, there was a typo... I meant golems (in that example). Probably, the way you attack doesn't make any difference if it's just 2 heroes..., but if a creature is standing on the ground, you can approach it from different sides and choose the appropriate terrain. Perhaps the computer behaves "irrationally" based on this, or, conversely, rationally. It really does take the terrain into account and behaves differently in different cases..., - unfortunately, I don't quite understand it...:(, it seems to be built into the core of the game.

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What are you guys talking about!? Minotaurs, ogre mages, cruisers kill vampires in one or two hits, and they won't have time to drain them with their weak stats and damage. Vampires are useful for accumulating skeletons, breaking through defenses, and defeating utopians and ducks without losing skeletons or other undead. That's all. In a battle against an opponent, they get crushed at level 5, let alone level 6, which they don't even pay attention to!

Yeah, what a wealth of knowledge... Give me a minute, and I'll prove you wrong. Thank you.

Just put all types of level 4 units in the editor, for example, like this: 1, 10, 100, and 1000, and just have them fight each other... Vampires have no losses - that's a fact!

P.S. and also: minotaurs are not level 4 ;).

Sincerely.
"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."
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I just don't understand what the difference is between a battle between two heroes or a hero against a monster. P.S.: And this example proved that golems have a chance! Even if it's a small one, they still have a chance!
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Firstly, Minotaurs of level 5!!! And secondly, Vampires will defeat Crusaders and Ogre Mages (although I like Crusaders more).
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Minotaurs, Ogres, and Cruisers one-shot Vampires in one or two hits, and they won't have time to drain anything with their weak stats and damage.
Do you have any proof? We conduct fair tests, while you base your opinion on personal assumptions. In a battle of 8 vs. 8, Vampires lose to Cruisers; the Cruisers only killed one and that's it.

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I just don't understand what the difference is between a battle between two heroes or a hero against a monster?
P.S.: and this example proved that golems have a chance! albeit a small one, but they do!

Let me explain. You see, the computer places neutral troops based on the strength of the kingdom's army. If your power exceeds the opponent's (the creature standing on the ground), then this unit will contain only 1 stack; if, in terms of total health, you are still far behind the computer :) (sorry for the pun, it's just easier to express it this way in this situation), then its troops will be divided into 7 stacks, and this is usually what gives and takes away the advantage in battle. If the forces are equal, then the number of units on the battlefield will be somewhere around 3-4 stacks.

Regarding the example: I don't think you can calculate it that way..., the computer doesn't behave rationally (everyone knows that :)), but even if you just fly straight ahead, without waiting, it's enough to simply get into a corner..., not to mention using the terrain...

Sincerely.
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Vampires, vampires, vampires... And I would take snipers if I were playing against the AI.
"Если свет который во мне есть тьма, то какова тогда тьма?"

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1 Vampires - retaliatory strike, regeneration, speed.
2 Crusaders - double strike, decent attack and damage.
3 Ogres - 60 HP and best attack.
Snipers are decent, but they are neutral.