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Good day, colleagues. I created this thread to discuss various inter-clan issues at the clan leadership level. Right away, and without offense: all messages from users who are not Clan Leaders or their deputies will be deleted by me as off-topic. I hope for your understanding, Qwerty

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Hmm... I don't quite understand the purpose of creating this thread.
Qwerty;124837
I created this thread to discuss various inter-clan issues at the clan leadership level.
Why can't these functions be performed in a general clan thread or in the LEMS? Yes, only leaders and deputies have the right to make and approve serious decisions, but IMO, other clan members and even the entire forum should be able to participate in the discussion and make suggestions. Their thoughts may also be useful in resolving important issues. So, deleting this thread is unnecessary.
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The purpose of creating this thread is to address issues constructively and at the appropriate level. For example, the issue with moderation. The rules state that a representative thread should contain only one post. In reality, today I deleted a bunch of posts from the thread of one of the clans. Let's figure out what happened. It turns out that I interfered in someone else's thread. Is that bad? Of course, it's not good! But what to do? And here's what to do. In this thread, you can ask in a friendly manner, for example, to tidy up their representative threads. If questions arise (for example, "I'll close the representative thread, but how will people apply to join the clan?") - you can offer advice ("Create a thread for those who want to join the clan, for developing ideology, or something else"). In addition, there are often things to discuss at the leadership level...

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The purpose of creating this thread is to address issues constructively and at the appropriate level.
I agree.
For example, the issue with moderation.
Ordinary forum users can also contribute good ideas.
The rules state that a representative thread should contain only one post. In reality, today I deleted a bunch of posts from one of the Clans' threads.
I noticed...
Let's figure out what happened.
Deleting posts from the Vampire Clan
It turns out that I intruded into someone else's thread. Is that not good? Of course, it's not good!
I agree.
But what to do?
Was there an extreme need for this?
In this thread, you can politely ask, for example, to clean up their representative threads.
You did just that. You could have written a private message to the leader.
In this thread, you can politely ask, for example, to clean up their representative threads.
If questions arise (for example, "I'll close the Representative thread, but how will people apply to join the Clan?") - then create a thread for those who want to join the Clan.
There is an official way to apply to join a Clan.
And also - I disagree with deleting messages from non-leaders.
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Perhaps it would be better to create a subforum specifically for clan leaders?
and place the following there:
1) this topic and generally discuss all important issues related to clans
2) LEMS and generally resolve all clan conflicts there
3) reports on clan activities
4) create an FAQ there to help leaders of new clans
5) topics about inter-clan tournaments in the development stage

in this section, no one will disturb the clan leaders, and those who have nothing to do with clans will not be bothered by some "stay alive" topic. and in general, it will be more convenient

the section can be password-protected or clan leaders can be assigned to a group (like moderators and newsmakers) and only allow them to view this subforum

and what do you think about creating such a subforum?
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In fact, you are the Deputy Leader of the clan, aren't you?

As you can see, the discussion about the Representative topic has reached a point where even the Creator has paid attention to it. But not all Leaders have found the time and opportunity to FOLLOW THE RULES (it's not funny, is it?).

And this topic is needed so that we don't have to write private messages, of which I have 192, and I delete them daily.

In my opinion, we need to clearly understand the following:
1. We - the clan leaders - are the ones who manage the clan. Not someone else.
2. We need to discuss emerging issues, consult when necessary, and develop clan policies.
3. Not all topics require convening a Meeting of the Leaders of the Clans, many things can be resolved through a simple dialogue here...

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In general, I completely agree with Qwerty.
The leaders or their deputies should resolve the issues of interaction between clans... AT THE APPROPRIATE LEVEL!!!!
However, right now, there is one problem: how to deal with unscrupulous clan leaders.
Although the word "fight" isn't quite appropriate, something needs to be done... I will try to submit a request to the Creator to create a separate section for clan leaders.
That way, there will be the necessary topics.
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2. Archibald
There are a few nuances here.
1. Not all Clan Leaders have the opportunity to be constantly present on the forum. That's why I mentioned the possibility of posts from deputies.
2. Inter-clan ideas are a matter that concerns a fairly wide range of forum users; I think it's normal to have a section with general access.
3. I hope that LZMС (League of Might and Magic Clans) will become the official "body" of the clan movement. And this topic is like a "smoking area" where clan leaders can calmly communicate with each other, express wishes, ask for advice, and know that there will be no posts like "everything sucks" or "we'll come and show everyone" here. Just knowing that this topic is only for "our own."

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2 General ZeT
In fact, you are the Deputy Leader of the clan, aren't you?

As you can see, the discussion about the Representative topic has reached a point where even the Creator has paid attention to it. But not all Leaders have found the time and opportunity to FOLLOW THE RULES (it's not funny, is it?).

And this topic is needed so that we don't have to write private messages, of which I have 192, and I delete them daily.

In my opinion, we need to clearly understand the following:
1. We, the clan leaders, are the ones who manage the clan. Not someone else.
2. We need to discuss emerging issues, consult when necessary, and develop clan policy.
3. Not all topics require convening a Leaders' Meeting, many things can be resolved through a simple dialogue here...

Dear Qwerty, I am not the Deputy Leader of the Vampire clan. At least, Lord has not appointed me. I am just one of the active users of our clan, and I am interested in everything related to the future and state of the forum.
Regarding your idea, I agree. I think we should follow Archibald's advice and create a section that will only be visible to certain people. Instead of creating a topic – there will always be those who are not leaders, but who will have questions or their own opinion (for example, me)
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2 Archibald
There are several nuances here.
1. Not all Clan Leaders have the opportunity to be constantly present on the forum. That's why I mentioned the possibility of posts from deputies.
This way, we will give both deputies the opportunity to write and see the "leaders' section".
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Theoretically, it is possible, but in practice, it requires certain efforts. Leaders can gather in the moderator section and create a topic, but personally, I would like there to also be deputies for the reasons mentioned above.

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Colleagues, did you see this?
/topic/at/124888/
This is how we live. Why does this happen? This isn't the first time...
I can offer the following assumptions:
1. The idea of Clans is popular and correct.
2. Perhaps the Clan rules are not clearly visible? What should we do? It’s useless to pin them as the first post. Maybe we need to duplicate this topic in a lower section? Does anyone else have any ideas?
3. There is also a broader aspect to all of this, which goes beyond the scope of the Clan movement. Don't you think, fellow moderators, that users with at least a certain number of posts should be allowed to CREATE topics? And looking at some sections, it's just chaos – duplicated topics and so on...

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Colleagues, did you see this?
/topic/at/124888/
This is how we live. Why does this happen? This isn't the first time...
That’s all… :smile03: Hooray!
Quote: “The creation of Clans has been suspended...”

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Qwerty;124895
Colleagues, did you see this?
/topic/at/124888/
This is how we live. Why does this happen? This isn't the first time...
I can offer the following assumptions.
1. The idea of Clans is popular and correct.
2. Perhaps the Clan rules are not clearly visible? What should we do? It’s useless to pin them as the first post. Maybe we need to duplicate this topic in a lower section? Does anyone else have any ideas?
3. There is also a broader aspect to all of this, which goes beyond the competence of the Clan movement. Don't you think, fellow moderators, that users with at least a certain number of posts should be allowed to CREATE topics? And when I look at some sections, it's just chaos – duplicated topics and so on ...
yes, let's set a limit on the number of messages and birds, and that's it.

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or after creating a Clan topic, it is initially sent for approval to the leadership, and only upon approval by the leadership will it be visible in the inter-Clan section

but I like the first option more
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And one more thing: I have this crazy idea for a big pre-New Year inter-clan battle. The idea: three or four clans against the rest. That is, two teams are formed (based on ideology, personal preferences, and other factors), and they play a wall-to-wall match. And in different versions. Some play online in the third, fourth, or fifth game, others play offline from 1 to 5 - a big global battle. Of course, the idea is "raw" and even very much so, but after reading some representative threads, I would like to warm up a bit. What do you think, colleagues?

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