Discussion of level 8 monsters. — In the Wake of Gods / WOG / ERA

Джелу

11/5/2007 2:42 PM UTC

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The Supreme Archangel is the strongest, while the Phantom Fiend is the weakest!!
But overall, the strongest creature is the Dragon Lich!

Джелу -- предводитель Рейнджеров!!

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kcfgogbfalgfl

11/5/2007 6:55 PM UTC

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Either my version of WOG is different, or the unit has a different name, but please explain to me who the draco-liches are.

Er@ser

11/5/2007 10:41 PM UTC

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By Dracolich, they probably mean Blood Dragons, but they are the weakest creatures; try feeding on some Storm Lords instead...
It's ridiculous! And to say that monsters are the weakest is simply absurd: what can even the Archangel do against a creature that completely ignores its defense?!

РУХ-ЧУДИЩЕ-ОГР

11/6/2007 8:42 AM UTC

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I like Thunderbirds, Specters, Greater Archangels, and Dark Dragons. And dragons become very powerful when upgraded; you could say they are a much-improved version of harpies.

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kcfgogbfalgfl

11/6/2007 1:52 PM UTC

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If a dragon-lich is a blood dragon, then it's weak, so why are people saying it's so powerful?

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Ley

11/6/2007 2:30 PM UTC

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And dragons become very powerful when leveled up, consider them a much-improved version of harpies!

Yeah, they are really strong :D! But I don't like dragons, but I'll say the same: consider them an improved harpy..., but hippogriffs - with their ability to ignore defense and obstacles - are great ;)

"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."

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РУХ-ЧУДИЩЕ-ОГР

11/6/2007 8:27 PM UTC

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Ley;124607

Yeah, that's powerful! :D I don't like dragons, but I'll say the same: consider them an improved harpy... but behemoths – with their ability to ignore defense and obstacles – are great! ;)

Yes... Behemoths are powerful... the only downside is that they don't look very good at level 8.((((
What do you think about Thunderbirds?
They attack twice, and they also cast lightning in melee!

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Lagoona999

11/7/2007 10:28 AM UTC

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It depends on the person.
I only have the commander script enabled, and everything else is disabled.

Well, I find the opposite to be true; the commanders annoy me)) along with the squires))). But I'm delighted with the experience bonuses for creatures and the banners :smile54:
However, it's great that all these scripts exist and you can choose. I like being able to choose:cool:

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Er@ser;124075

Yes... But what about the other units not leveling up? And compared to whom do the Archangels have twice the damage:smile07: Just curious:D

Even after leveling up, the damage of the other units will be 40-50% lower than that of the Archangels. The weakest are the Nightmare Hydras. Don't forget that for all creatures, the damage is distributed from min to max, while the Archangel always has the max. + to this, the Archangel has the highest attack and defense of all, so the damage of any monster, even if it's close to the Archangel's damage, is reduced by the Archangel's defense.;)

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I just checked; the Archangel defeated a Monster in six hits, dealing 112 HP damage per hit, while the Monster dealt 37-46 HP damage. No amount of armor penetration saved it.

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Er@ser

11/7/2007 10:40 AM UTC

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Even after leveling up, the damage of other creatures will be 40-50% lower than that of Archdevils. The weakest ones are Nightmares. Don't forget that the damage of all creatures is distributed from min to max, while Archdevils always have max damage. Plus, Archdevils have the highest attack and defense rating of all, so the damage of any monster, even if close to the Archdevil's damage, is reduced by the Archdevil's defense rating.;)

Hydras have a kiloton attack, which adds to their damage. The monster ignores defense, so the defense coefficient doesn't matter to it.

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kcfgogbfalgfl

11/7/2007 12:34 PM UTC

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Thunderlords are awesome too!!! Just like the Supreme Archmages.

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Ley

11/7/2007 1:30 PM UTC

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Yeah... Hippogryphs are powerful... they just don't look very good at level 8 (((
What do you think about Thunderbirds?
They shoot twice, and they also cast lightning in melee combat!!!

Thunderbirds? Come on... Double shot is just a gimmick, like with all archers (not to be confused with ordinary monsters capable of double attacks ;) ), and the lightning is also weak. And in general, they can't even be compared to such "tough guys" as Antichrists and Diamond Dragons, for example. Many are stronger than them...

"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."

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Dirty_Player

11/7/2007 2:01 PM UTC

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Supreme Archangels are awesome!! Unmitigated damage is incredible!!!
Antichrists and Diamonds are also very cool!
And Behemoths are just the best!!! :D
Everyone has their own pros and cons. To understand which level 8 monster is better, play the EvilFast map a few times. If anyone has doubts, everything will become clear immediately!!

Ley

11/7/2007 2:11 PM UTC

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Here, the choice also raises the question of personal preferences and principles, and not only that. After all, there is no definitive and clear criterion for determining the essence of an 8th-level creature. Anyone can write virtually anything, and they will be right. Every single person can evaluate a particular creature for different reasons (strength, beauty, usefulness, etc.), and it is impossible to dissuade such a person, IMHO. But in your choice, be objective, justify and argue your position, and that's it:), - this is probably the most important thing in the created topic. Sincerely.

"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."

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Dirty_Player

11/7/2007 2:18 PM UTC

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Ley, play EvilFast, and everything will become clear. We used to play it for money, and with such a game, you really start to seriously think about which monster is actually better.

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РУХ-ЧУДИЩЕ-ОГР

11/7/2007 3:47 PM UTC

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Thunder Lords? Come on... Double Shot is just a common trick, like with all archers (not to be confused with ordinary monsters capable of double attacks ;) ), and the lightning is also not very powerful. In general, they can't even be compared to such "tough guys" as Antichrists and Diamond Dragons, for example. Many are actually stronger than them...

Well, maybe you're right, maybe they aren't that good, but...
Still, the fact that they are archers gives them some advantage.