Necropolis or Castle (Which one is stronger?) — Tactics

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kcfgogbfalgfl

10/29/2007 5:11 PM UTC

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If Necromancers have the King's Robe of Unholiness and Expert Sorcery, then humans are 90% doomed.

Drnik

10/29/2007 5:19 PM UTC

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That's true, but only if the necromancer actively used the cloak and didn't just keep it in his backpack.

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eXeCuToR

10/29/2007 9:53 PM UTC

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Well, if a player lets the Necropolis faction roam the map, collect the artifact, and amass a large number of liches, they are doomed even without using necromancy, because that's not how you're supposed to play. But if everything is done correctly, the Necropolis won't be able to gather skeletons or collect the artifact.

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samadura

10/31/2007 3:44 PM UTC

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Well, if a player lets the Necropolis explore the map, gather the artifact, and amass a large number of Liches, they are doomed even without Necromancy, because that's not how it should be played. But if everything is done correctly, the Necropolis won't gather skeletons or collect the artifact.

But HOW is it done correctly?! :) It's not that simple on large maps...

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eXeCuToR

10/31/2007 3:55 PM UTC

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But how should it be done correctly?! :) It's not that simple on large maps...

Of course, it's not that simple, but it's still achievable. If you build quickly, you can rush and destroy them, preventing them from gathering their own army.
P.S. I have 666 posts - I'm definitely right :D :D :D

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samadura

10/31/2007 4:13 PM UTC

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If you have maxed out Water Magic and cast it on Archons, and they go first, plus they have higher speed, which means more freedom of movement. So, 13 Archons with doubled damage are quite powerful, but whether there will be enough resources on the map for skeletons is another question.

Based on my experience... there is always enough "meat" on XL and L maps for the Necromancer!!!
To have Vidomina or Izra amass 1000 skeletons in the first month...

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Of course, it's not that simple, but it's still possible. If you build quickly, you can rush and prevent them from gathering their own horde.
P.S. I have 666 posts - I'm definitely right :D :D :D

You say you have a lot of posts... but a rush is only possible on small maps, and even then, not with all races

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eXeCuToR

11/1/2007 12:55 PM UTC

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eXeCuToR;119648
Based on my experience... there's always enough FLESH on XL and L maps for Necropolis!
So that even someone like Vidomina or Izra can amass 1000 skeletons in the first month...

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You talk a lot, but rushing is only possible on small maps, and even then, not with all races.

I'm not saying I post a lot, I'm saying 666, it was a sign)))) well, it's too late now...
Are you saying that Necropolis can't be won on a large map at all? I disagree.

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Its the servants devotion for the decay
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samadura

11/1/2007 1:26 PM UTC

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I'm not talking about a few posts, but specifically 666, it was a sign!))) Well, it's too late now...
Are you saying that it's impossible to win with Necropolis on a large map? I disagree.

If you're playing against a serious human opponent, then YES... it's PRACTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE, and the longer they stay on the map, the less chance you have of winning!!!
("life experience" and many... many games played against people):)

eXeCuToR

11/1/2007 1:46 PM UTC

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That’s why I’m saying we need to do everything we can to eliminate him before he gathers an army.

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samadura

11/1/2007 2:35 PM UTC

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That's why I'm saying we need to try our best to eliminate him before he gathers an army.

:D It's easy to say "eliminate him before he gathers an army"... but in reality, defeating a Necropolis hero, especially on large maps with usually... and often superior forces, isn't that simple;) He doesn't move slowly like a computer-controlled hero... he intelligently explores the territory... and correctly distributes "zombies" to potentially transfer forces... and in the later stages of the game, he'll also use Town Portal and Teleport...
If you make a mistake and emerge slowly..."within reach"... then EVERYTHING is lost, the skeletons will strike at your back.... and if it's Galtaran's skeletons, it's even worse:D ...
Lose to a serious opponent like that a couple of times... and then you'll think twice about the power of the Necropolis army on large maps;)

eXeCuToR

11/1/2007 2:45 PM UTC

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And I’m not disputing their strength. On the contrary, I’m saying that since they gather skeletons so quickly, the only way to win is to prevent them from doing so.

Step aside from the way of a better man than you
So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you
Its the servants devotion for the decay
Stand up

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There are no chains
There I keep chanting for the forgotten name © Amorphis

Drnik

11/1/2007 3:40 PM UTC

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It's hard to prevent this; the castles need to be close together. To stop this gathering of death blossoms, you need to eliminate the Necromancers immediately.

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samadura

11/1/2007 4:21 PM UTC

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It's hard to prevent this, the castles need to be close together. And to prevent this gathering of death blossoms, you need to eliminate the Necromancers immediately.

The problem is that on large maps, castles are rarely "very close" to each other, and even more so if you're playing on 200% difficulty with strong monsters... when there are hordes of enemies all around. Even if you see them in the first month, getting to them won't be that easy.

eXeCuToR

11/2/2007 1:18 PM UTC

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Well, when you're surrounded by hordes of powerful monsters, you can lose quite a few skeletons.

Step aside from the way of a better man than you
So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you
Its the servants devotion for the decay
Stand up

There are no flowers on your grave
There are no chains
There I keep chanting for the forgotten name © Amorphis