Necropolis or Castle (Which one is stronger?) — Tactics

In reply to Ley

Sage

10/25/2007 12:13 PM UTC

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Ley;120795

Prayer increases attack by 4 and creature speed by 50% (acceleration by 100%).

Prayer grants +4 to speed, attack, and defense. Acceleration grants +5 to speed on Expert difficulty.

Твой дом там, где твоё сердце.
Все люди - братья, но в каждом из нас спит волк.

Vitamin_UA

10/25/2007 12:21 PM UTC

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Experience shows that Necromancers are stronger than humans. Much depends on the players and the map, of course. But if the start is approximately equal, then humans have little chance (diplomacy can help, but there aren't always worthy troops to join, and time is of the essence). The Necromancer starts strong: the initial hero's skeletons + 2 heroes in the tavern (whose troops will also become skeletons ;-) ) and in the first week we have about 100 skeletons, we can develop and level up... You can play against Necromancers using the Conflux, and sometimes the Rampart; this is my personal opinion, but the best strategy is skeletons against skeletons, and then everything depends on the player's skill (and luck – that is, the map ;-)).

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Ley

10/25/2007 1:15 PM UTC

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Sage;120831

Prayer grants +4 to speed, attack, and defense. Haste grants +5 to speed on expert difficulty.

Standard test: a hero with expert water and expert air secondary skills, and with 1 butterfly (unupgraded fairy) in their army, casts Prayer, and its speed becomes 11 (initially 7). Then, Haste is cast, and the speed becomes 14. How do you explain that?

"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."

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Sage

10/25/2007 1:39 PM UTC

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Ley;120851

A standard test: a hero with expert water and expert air secondary skills, and with only 1 butterfly (an unupgraded fairy) in their army. We cast Prayer, and its speed becomes 11 (initially 7). Then, we cast Haste, and the speed becomes 14. How do you explain that?

I did the same thing: 7 -> 11 -> 16. Spell bonuses simply stack. Maybe you had a regular Haste spell (which adds +3), and not an expert/advanced one.

Твой дом там, где твоё сердце.
Все люди - братья, но в каждом из нас спит волк.

eXeCuToR

10/25/2007 3:01 PM UTC

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Yes, I must have been mistaken... I apologize... I always thought that the spell description said it doubled the damage... Maybe I'm confusing things.
Vitamin UA, when you buy these heroes, do you get so much money right away that you can spend five thousand on the first turn??? I think it's better to build up your defenses instead... That's why I prefer the Castle – it's more rational.

Step aside from the way of a better man than you
So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you
Its the servants devotion for the decay
Stand up

There are no flowers on your grave
There are no chains
There I keep chanting for the forgotten name © Amorphis

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Ley

10/25/2007 8:58 PM UTC

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Sage;120861

I did the same thing: 7 -> 11 -> 16. The spell bonuses simply add up. Maybe you had a regular speed boost (which adds +3), and not an expert/advanced one.

I don't think speed bonuses can stack... Maybe it's like this: regular +3, advanced +4, expert +5? (I mean specifically in this example).

"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."

Феанор

10/25/2007 9:23 PM UTC

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Speed bonuses stack. Try equipping more speed artifacts. And the prayer spell actually gives +4 speed, not 5.

Слово "РАСА" пишется с одной буквой С.
В слове ВОИН нет буквы Й.
Пять восклицательных знаков в конце каждого предложения - признак подростковых комплексов.

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Ley

10/26/2007 6:59 AM UTC

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Feanor;121047

Speed bonuses stack. Try equipping more speed artifacts. And the prayer actually gives +4 speed, not 5.

Where did you see the post about the prayer giving +5?

"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."

65RUS

10/26/2007 9:07 AM UTC

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Castle. On the side of Angels and Archangels, they 100% obliterate Bone Dragons and other creatures! The Champions are very strong! Even the halberdiers are better than skeletons!

"Отыщи всему начало, и ты многое поймёшь."
К. Прутков.

Играю тут http://www.heroeswm.ru
Супер онлайн игра по Героям 5.:smile14:

З.Ы. Я вернулся на форум)))

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R@zer

10/26/2007 9:10 AM UTC

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Yes, I agree with the last statement, except for Archangels.

65RUS

10/26/2007 9:22 AM UTC

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Archangels))) They'll still win!)))

"Отыщи всему начало, и ты многое поймёшь."
К. Прутков.

Играю тут http://www.heroeswm.ru
Супер онлайн игра по Героям 5.:smile14:

З.Ы. Я вернулся на форум)))

In reply to Ley

Sage

10/26/2007 11:50 AM UTC

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Ley;121039

I don't think speed bonuses can stack... Maybe like this: regular +3, advanced +4, expert +5? (I mean specifically in this example)

Acceleration without the skill and basic Air Mastery gives +3 to one unit, advanced Air Mastery gives +5 to one unit, and expert Air Mastery gives +5 to all units.

Твой дом там, где твоё сердце.
Все люди - братья, но в каждом из нас спит волк.

eXeCuToR

10/26/2007 11:51 AM UTC

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Razer, what didn't you like about the Archmages?

Step aside from the way of a better man than you
So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you
Its the servants devotion for the decay
Stand up

There are no flowers on your grave
There are no chains
There I keep chanting for the forgotten name © Amorphis

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Феанор

10/26/2007 2:26 PM UTC

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Ley;121103

Where did you see a post about Prayer +5?

Yes, my apologies, I messed up – that sentence mentioned both Prayer and Haste.

But Archangels are expensive, and there are a lot of skeletons, and they are easier to resurrect.
I think Necropolis is stronger on Large and Extra Large maps. On Small and Medium maps – I don't know. On one hand, there will be few skeletons, but on the other hand, there won't be any Archangels at all.

Слово "РАСА" пишется с одной буквой С.
В слове ВОИН нет буквы Й.
Пять восклицательных знаков в конце каждого предложения - признак подростковых комплексов.