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1. The "Arena" competitive system.
The goal is to prepare a hero with an army within a fixed period (usually 29 game days) for a battle against similar "monsters" raised by opponents.
Naturally, such a hero should possess a decent army, stats, and skills, as well as a magical arsenal.
The submitted heroes are brought together in the "arena" like gladiators. Two battles are held - first, one hero attacks, then the other. The judge determines the result.
"Arena" is an independent, large, and time-consuming tournament.

2. Now about the idea of a blitz tournament consisting of several tasks.
There should be several stages, probably from three to seven.
The tasks themselves: battles (possibly with various objectives!!), capturing a hero, completing the game as quickly as possible; gathering creatures or resources.
The essence of the idea is that the "generation" process should be minimized, and the solution itself should take no more than 1-2 game days.

1. The "Arena" competitive system.
The goal is to prepare a hero with an army within a fixed period (usually 29 game days) for a battle against other "monsters" raised by rivals.
Submitted heroes are pitted against each other in the "arena," like gladiators. Two battles are held – first, one hero attacks, then the other. The judge determines the result.
"Arena" is an independent, large, and time-consuming tournament.

-Do heroes level up individually in offline mode?
-If so, is it from a single save file?
-Are the castles specified, or is there a choice?
-Who are the heroes pitted against? Is it an automated battle?
-How many participants are needed? And how is the draw conducted... which gladiator will fight against which?

-Does everyone farm heroes in offline mode?

yes

-If yes, is it from the same save file?

from one save file

-Are the castles specified, or is there a choice?

the castles are all defined in the save file; you can choose the hero yourself

-How are the heroes matched up? Auto-battle?

usually auto-battle. If it's an even fight, then it's done manually

-How many participants are needed? And how does the draw happen... which
gladiator will fight against which?

all must fight against all, twice. This is what determines the difficulty of verifying this tournament.

Let me add a few points regarding the "arena."
In my opinion, the main difficulty lies in checking the save files. Indeed, if the game lasts 4-10 days (as in the latest tournaments), then in case of doubts, a certain number of daily save files need to be checked. However, if the game lasts 29 days, the number of daily save files increases at least threefold.
Not to mention that a simple check for standard cheats is somewhat more complex – if in speed tournaments, it is enough to check the final save, and if standard cheats were used in the game, it is displayed, then here everything is a bit more complicated – because the map is not won in the final save!

In addition, the gameplay itself is much longer (for tournament participants).

So, what if the check isn't performed by just one person, but by a group, to simplify the process or prevent this issue from happening?

A judging panel? That's possible! It's just a matter of how many people will want to play the "arena". If about 10 people say "we're definitely playing," we can organize a tournament...

I think we’ll get 10 people…

I also think a good number of people will express their interest in this idea!

Okay, let's start with 10, so how many people do we need to "put" in the jury?

usually autobattle.

But I don't like this...
I understand that the conditions are equal in this case, but the ability to conduct battles also reflects the player's skill, and I don't want to neglect this aspect of mastery...
Technically, it's not difficult to put "hero-gladiators" on a "bare" map... log in for 5-10 minutes and fight manually...
P.S. In any case, I am a participant in the tournament, and if necessary, I can help with checking the save, but not as the main checker - but in "quick review" mode.

And here's another point (if I understand correctly):
in the case of the arena, it might be more effective to use not 2 heroes, but 3, i.e., two of them have roughly equal strength armies, and the 3rd (the boss :)) is stronger than them, thus bypassing the auto-battle. I agree with Alex_R on this issue, as I also believe that the battle should be conducted "manually" - in my humble opinion, this is very important.

Also, regarding the verification: I would like to see an "example," i.e., a kind of masterclass on verifying the saves of people who have already done this.

Sincerely.

Well, everyone wants an "arena." Because it would make for a very interesting tournament. But I think 10 people is the maximum. Because if about 5 people are evenly matched, that's 5*4*2/2 = 20 battles! And if there are ten, we'll be fighting until morning :D As for autobattles: this is a very subjective thing, because people can choose different troops depending on their magic, and the computer doesn't know how to use magic effectively.

Okay, here's the deal.
1. I've run arena tournaments, and I haven't used autobattle even once. So, let's not bring up that topic again.
2. Regarding "everyone wants." I'm not sure if that's true. Specifically, I'm interested in the opinions of VDV_forever, IronAxe, vbn, vbs, Alex_R, Kyle, Zingel, Fireball.
3. The arenas are generated by me personally. Each player receives a number of arenas equal to the number of players minus 1, multiplied by two.
4. Keep in mind that summarizing the results of an arena tournament is not a quick process.
5. Players send me their verdicts on the arenas (options: 2:0, 1:1, 0:2). However, the final decision is made by the judge.
6. Anyone who decides to participate in the arena tournament must immediately accept the fact that the judge's final decision is not subject to dispute. A preliminary decision may be subject to discussion, and if the players provide sufficiently convincing arguments FOR THE JUDGE, the decision may be changed.
But if the judge has made a possibly controversial decision, it will have to be accepted.

Think about it, decide, and express your opinions.

I don't quite understand how you can actually penalize someone in a way that only the "offended" party notices. I completely agree with your condition. P.S.: In the worst-case scenario, if there are dissatisfied parties, they can choose not to participate in the next tournament.

Well, the fact that there won't be an autobattle is already a good thing, but this problem isn't fundamentally solved... that is, as I understand it, the tournament will be completely offline, because even trying to achieve victory through individual skill in conducting battles won't be possible... essentially, it will be a battle in "one versus oneself" mode...
In simpler terms, the goal of the tournament is to assemble the most powerful army, and being able to use it effectively is not necessarily required!
P.S. In general, I'm still in favor of the tournament, but maybe we can try to create "gladiator battles" online.

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And one more thing... the troop arrangement is fixed with the "gladiator's" save file that is sent in?:smile01:

5. Players send me their verdicts on the arenas (options: 2:0, 1:1, 0:2). However, the final decision is made by the judge.

Here, we're talking about online battles, or... that is, why did the question arise: if it's online and a person sends their verdict, how can the judge change that verdict?

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essentially, a "player versus self" mode will be used...
In other words, the goal of the tournament is to assemble the most powerful army, and knowing how to use it is not necessarily required!

I don't understand at all how you came to such conclusions :confused: :confused: :confused: