Mafia 110. Heckelia — Mafia

Ple-Sen

5 years ago

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Plesen turned out to be very generous with the amulets, only thinking about himself on the 3rd night. Thanks for the gift, even though it wasn't useful.

Here, the factor played a role that Theodore's only function is to hinder Necoran in every possible way. And hitting the latter on an unprotected Theodore will cause less damage to the city than hitting some other blocker. At least, until Necro-Necro starts building up his zombie army. And even hitting with an amulet on Manu or Mafu wasn't a completely wasted action, as it increased the chances of an ultimate being drained. Hitting with an ultimate on Theodore was not much better for Necoran than black magic. That's why he postponed the amulet until he thought that Theodore had already revealed himself enough, established himself as a peacemaker, and expected a night visit from him. A night visit did happen, but not from Necoran. The funny thing here was that on that night, I was also thinking about visiting Ment.

Arandor

5 years ago

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97% sure we won't recruit.

I told you so... apparently

Fragment

5 years ago

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Ment

After all, you can't be just another Mafia member, can you? ))) And it's hard to believe that the Mafia would target you from the very first night, and it also seems unlikely that you would persistently try to pass yourself off as a Town role.
But Frag kept trying to convince me in the chat not to rule out the possibility that you're lying.

This has been going on since game 108, where Tox tried to pretend to be Suzanne at the very beginning. After that game, I can expect anything from him. Most likely, if I were a Townie, even if I believed him, it would be reluctantly and with difficulty, as in this game and the previous one. Maybe I'm overestimating Tox's tendency to deceive, I don't know, but combined with the openness of his game, it's really unsettling. I'm still waiting for him to pull out a black card...

Nebо

Mafia, you can be offended if you want, but just as random chance buried you in the first two days, random descriptions saved you in the end. I'm not saying you played badly, quite the opposite, you did great in the situation you were in (it was probably especially difficult for Ment to pretend to be a Townie, being a Negative), but based on the newspapers, Arandor couldn't have been the main Mafia member.

The description of Nefela's murder was indeed confusing and similar to the description of Plesen's murder; in both cases, it was possible to assume a staged incident, pointing to Lian. I would probably have thought the same if I hadn't known who the real killer was. The description of Yashur's death was different; it doesn't suggest that Lo's specialty is contactless killings, but it seems that this is because it was a special case... Perhaps the hint was the double suicide, but with Nefela, it looked more like an accidental death due to a weak heart than a suicide caused by an unhealthy combination.

kcfgogbfalgfl

5 years ago

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With Chinax, non-contact methods simply won't work. Either jump into bed or say goodbye. 😎

Arandor

5 years ago

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Good thing it wasn’t me who went to kill him.

macca

5 years ago

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Thanks to everyone for the game, and special thanks to Yashur

To be honest, I doubt I would have made it to the end, so my unexpected death was a relief. But, on the other hand, it was a little disappointing to read the thread and slowly get into it, and then see the day end prematurely and my death in the last message
Probably, Yashur saw my whiny message about how difficult it was for me to sort everything out, and decided to ease my suffering, hehe.

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MedjersoN_HP

5 years ago

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Is this what you mean by "revealing yourself"?

You misunderstood me. Simply "revealing yourself" as a "khokhol" is almost like intentional sabotage, and that's not what I'm talking about.

It's more of a psychological thing. If you're playing a role and you're about to be "hanged," you just calmly embrace that role, and everyone stops voting for you. Of course, this is only true if a second candidate for that role doesn't emerge.
So, "revealing yourself as a khokhol" means pushing things to the point where you're about to be "hanged" and have to "reveal yourself." In this process, you lose the beneficial aspect of your role because people will stop targeting you.

In essence, something similar happened in this game.

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Злобный Ящур

5 years ago

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You're welcome, feel free to ask again.

macca

I guess Yaschur saw my whiny message about how difficult it was for me to sort everything out, and decided to ease my suffering, hehe

Nah, I just used my Yaschur senses to sniff out that you're spending your nights with some Toxas and Masters.

Nebо

and made the only right decision

P.S. I remembered what it was. I'm looking... * Hmm... Fragment, Crabby... Is our Nekorashka not taking revenge on his former Mafia team for the past murder...?*, that's it. I rushed, of course, but it's your fault, gentlemen "healers and bodyguards"...

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MedjersoN_HP

At the same time, you lose the useful side of your role, because they won't shoot at you anymore.

Well, I wasn't really sure they wouldn't (a girl with ignore, yeah). Although the number of potential killers has decreased... But I was so tired of dying constantly that I even saw a plus in this...

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Zlobny Yaschur

* Hmm... Fragment, Crabby... Is our Nekorashka not taking revenge on his former Mafia team for the past murder...?*

I've been so poisoned by these gossip newspapers that I even forgot that Gumer was with Crabby, not Fragment. :(

kcfgogbfalgfl

5 years ago

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No, I just sensed with my lizard intuition that you spend your nights with some Toxis and Masters.

The character was supposed to be a loyal wife and a competent ruler, so let's not do that :(

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Злобный Ящур

5 years ago

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Dún Scáith

With Chinax, non-contact methods simply won't work. Either jump into bed or say goodbye. 😎

And does placing a mine also count as an attack?

kcfgogbfalgfl

5 years ago

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In terms of mechanics, it's not so much about placing the trap as it is about the explosion itself, since the special effect triggered precisely at that moment.

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Злобный Ящур

5 years ago

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In terms of mechanics, it's not so much about placing the trap as it is about the explosion itself, because the effect triggered at that specific moment.

So, would Inar have died if he had detonated the mine on me? Or would he have just lost his defense?

kcfgogbfalgfl

5 years ago

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Anyone would die except for the uncursed Lo.

Злобный Ящур

5 years ago

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It's interesting how Chinax managed to kill Inar, when just a couple of turns ago, Inar was still alive... I was actually worried about an explosion, thinking that Inar could set it off without any consequences...