Posts from Mafia 110. Heckelia Auto-translated

Are the clues related to Nebos or Gumer? Because I still see Gumer's profile in the player list.

I doubt it, but thanks for trying to figure it out.
Nefela, wow, it's good that someone is analyzing things based on analogies. However, I'm really confused by the question of how Yashur could have ended up in isolation in the second round. The supposed Shendet isn't blocked, and the block came before the isolation. What does all this mean? If it means what I think it means, then it raises the question of what we can trust at all.
And Crabbi didn't seem like someone who took a hit from Neki in the second half of the day, and I don't believe he has a talisman, considering who Ples was.
This makes things quite complicated.
Oh, and Tox, yes, I get it now, your logic is obvious. It looks interesting, but it might be too good to be true. Not that I don't believe that Medj can be... Especially if the Master isn't Floria, but even then, I can't quite put the whole picture together.
Okay, in order of increasing negativity (I expect some maniacs in the middle, and mafia at the end of the list).
Nefela
Nebos (Gumer)
Medj
Heroist
Arandor
Crabbi
Yashur
Comments: I don't see why everyone is so sure that Arts is innocent. He occasionally throws out some suspicious thoughts, but I'm not sure he couldn't be mafia or a maniac. Especially a maniac. Seriously, keep in mind that a maniac's daytime play doesn't have to be that different from an innocent's, which is why they are "gray".
I'm already afraid to judge Nefela; this time, she seems more innocent than usual, but usually, I think she's mafia, and she doesn't. I've put her at the beginning of the list so I don't forget about her...
Yashur – should we execute Medj for information? What do you want to find out, in the sense of whether Tox is lying or not? Or about Shizuo's sanity? I'm not sure we can afford to execute for information anymore.
Nebos, Heroist – this is all because of yesterday. As Tox said, those who understand, understand?
Medj – I'm not in a hurry to rule him out as a maniac; I don't believe he's mafia.
I'm not 100% sure about Lok's innocence, but if we don't trust him either, then we're going crazy. We need at least some kind of axiom.

In conclusion, execute Yashur.

What exactly are you unsure about?

Aren't new clues usually given to the player who replaces the previous one?
Revan, I need a straightforward answer.

Needed. If it's about the old game, then here's the killer. If you're interested in how I found her, I opened a few profiles that seemed suspicious to me (Master, Gumer, Yashchur, Crabbi), quickly scanned them, and didn't see any obvious connections. Then I Googled Gumer's nickname and realized it was a city; the first link goes to Wikipedia. After Googling "Netherlands" and "oranges" separately (sorry for the cheat), I saw that there was a connection, so I decided to follow the Wikipedia link, and it all fell into place quite nicely, in a few steps, through the main sections, and even not for those with super-sharp vision. From the perspective of the GM creating the clue, the chain works.
By the way, yesterday I asked Revan about how he could hypothetically replace a killed player with a previously used one, assuming they could be in different factions. He said that he wouldn't put a former mafia player in a city or mana role, for obvious reasons, but in other cases, he could replace them. So, Nebka doesn't have an alibi that "a non-mafia player is only replaced by a non-mafia player."

In general, let's wait for clarification on the profile.

No, Shizuo didn't visit you a second time, Tox. Unless Shizuo dressed up as an old woman, and you didn't notice the difference.

I was talking about Shizuo, I needed him that night.

Added 5 minutes later
I'm ready to execute Nebumer, Medj, and Yashura – all three are currently on my personal list of negatives.

At night, I'll try to get to Nekoranchik...

Let me start by listing my own suspects: Peaceful: 1) Ment. Has been playing as a good guy from day one. 2) Heroist. Turned good yesterday, and I've already explained why. 3) Master. Has significantly improved his gameplay. Leaning towards peaceful: 4) Nefela. So far, she seems to be playing well. Theoretically, she could be a negative, but I don't see any signs of it. 5) Moni. Seems to have gotten his act together, and I haven't noticed any suspicious behavior. I don't see any reasons to suspect him. 6) Arandor. Remains calm and collected. There's no concrete reason to accuse him of anything yet. Leaning towards negative: 7) Nebo. If Revan confirms that the clues still point to Humer, then I think the clue is good. The Netherlands is associated with oranges in various ways; in fact, the word "orange" is of Dutch origin. Negatives: 8) Tox. 9) Yaschur. 10) Krabby. For now, I'll join Heroist and vote to **execute Yaschur**. Now, let me elaborate a bit on the discussion. Tox, based on "your statements, the clue, and your behavior," you claim that Shendet blocked me, but I was in isolation. This is the only scenario in which the "night defense" wouldn't have appeared in the newspaper. I think that besides you, no one considers me Inar, and some people are openly making fun of your claims. Therefore, I see two possibilities: 1) You are a peaceful player, you don't have any information about me, but you've decided to target me for personal reasons. Yes, it's possible that a commissioner might not have checked a player but is convinced that the player is Mafia and claims to have checked them. But that's a poor way to play. 2) You are Mafia, and you were blocked on the first night. In this case, you've constructed a fairly coherent narrative and are using another role as a cover. If this is the case, you're playing very well. Tox, I have a question for you. There are still four suspects remaining. Who else do you suspect? I know you mentioned a "list of suspects," but I couldn't find it. Would you mind repeating it?

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

Of course, I have questions. 1) In your opinion, is Tox a peaceful player or a negative? 2) What do you think of the orange clue? 3) Which players are you willing to vote for at this moment, and who do you find suspicious?

Medj, you've been targeting me for the third game day now; how else am I supposed to react? :) Do you even realize that if I'm being negative, it's only because I'm playing as Lo, who can't be executed? In any case, you need to back off from me until the killers are found. There's a nuance: even if I was blocked today, there aren't that many peaceful roles left. Of course, I could be wrong, and if so, I sincerely apologize, but again, it seems to me that Nefela, Ment, Arandor, and Morn are more peaceful than you, and there aren't many peaceful roles left... Let's do this: in the previous sentence, I named four people who, in my list, have replaced you in the list of townspeople. Which of these four do you consider the most negative? Added 7 minutes later I reread the setting and the newspapers again. I'll summarize the nights, taking into account Nefela's comments: Night 1. Fragment was under black magic, Floria was with Nebo, I and Ment were in two isolations. Night 2. Yashur was in isolation, Crabby was under black magic, Plesena was protecting, and I was checked. Night 4. Heroista was protected, I was blocked, Master was isolated, and black magic hit Ment. It's a pity that neither Crabby nor Ment want to hint whether they had a talisman... Because it will only make the list even more confusing if they did. XD

Medj, you've been targeting me for the past three game days; how else am I supposed to react? :)

Do you even realize that if I'm negative, it's only because I'm playing as Lo, who can't be executed? You all need to back off me until the killers are found.

There's a nuance: even if I was blocked today, there aren't that many peaceful roles left. I might be wrong, and if so, I apologize, but again, it seems to me that Nefela, Ment, Arandor, and Morny are more peaceful than you, and there aren't many peaceful roles left...

Let's do this: in the previous sentence, I named four people who, in my list, have replaced you in the list of town members. Which of these four do you consider the most negative?

Well, I'm not bothering anyone, I'm not even suggesting anyone for the noose. I shouldn't only discuss one player per day, or not discuss those who can't be executed.

Let's discuss everyone right away, without delay, because someone might die at night, and tomorrow we might not have time to discuss anyone.

Regarding those four – my list is mostly sorted, so Arandor is the most negative.

If my interpretation above is correct, then we have the following:

Mafia cannot be: Master and I, because there are two mafia night actions on the fourth night: a block on me and a visit to Ples. The Lizard can only be the main Mafia member.
We cannot be Inarus: I and Ment, because we definitely know that he placed explosives on the first night. The Lizard and Master can be Inarus.
We cannot all be Necron, because he successfully acted during these nights.



Added 2 minutes ago
Okay, yes, I could theoretically be a Loyalist who is deceiving you, but that is not your biggest problem right now.

And in general, I wouldn't be surprised if the Mafia continues to keep me in a permanent block, just so I can't use my night action to prove my innocence...

Added 3 minutes ago

Revan, is Necron's purge displayed on the target that Theodore managed to give a talisman to?

No, because the talisman cancels out Necron's action.

ToXAnd also, remind me, is Necron's black magic displayed if it hits a target that has Theodore's talisman? Does the talisman remain effective until the end of the night when Theodore is killed? Are players informed that they are without abilities and night actions?

It is displayed; talismans do not lose their power with Theodore's death, but they stop working after the death of the player on whom the talisman was applied. It is communicated.So, is Necron's black magic displayed on a target with a talisman or not? :D

It is displayed.

The clue for Sky seems decent, but there's no transition from the Netherlands to Till at all. However, for Humer, you'd have to come up with a clue with feedback. It's funny that the solution was given by someone who has a better solution, but he stubbornly rejected it, as well as the clues in general.)

Execute the Evil Yaschur

just in case I don't have time to join the discussion.

Replacing a clue with an old profile grants rewards.

Thank you.

Cancel Medja, execute Sky (Gumera).

Execute Megerson - 1 (Yashchur)
Execute Yashchur - 4 (Heroist, Ment, Megerson, Master)
Execute Nebo - 2 (Morning, Tox)

6 votes are required for an execution.