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Offline Граф Орлов
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Hmm... I can already picture the frantic vote-swapping among the Mafia members in the last half-minute of the day, and the equally frantic town vote-swapping in the last twenty seconds, and the Mafia's vote-swapping in the last fifteen... I'd be willing to be hanged just to witness that!
E si sui vius, er mi grans benananza,
e si ieu muoir, er mi grans deliuriers
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Nephela, if you're a city player, please help me understand.

Tox, if you're a city player, please help me understand.

I'm just a poor, silly girl, unable to properly rely on information, with frayed nerves and thoughts about new revisions to the diploma.

I'll start thinking out loud about the whole topic again!

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In conclusion, I think the mafia team consists of two members from: Nefela/Macca/Goomer, and one member from: ToX/Master.

I would like to save ToX and Master for later, let them develop further, and eliminate someone from the trio Nefela/Macca/Goomer.
I don't think Crabby failed to name a single real mafia member here.
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You're all making things too complicated. Regarding the statement about the alliance, I might have been a little off (although I'm not sure).
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Heroist-Master-Nefela
Heroist-Master-Gumer
Heroist-Alex-Nefela
Heroist-Alex-Gumer
If we go by this assumption (I haven't checked how accurate it is), then we have two pairs vying for two peaceful roles, most likely the investigator and the defender, respectively.
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Alex votes for Heroist, Heroist votes for Alex, the other four vote in pairs
I'm not thinking clearly right now, but won't something bad happen, like votes being switched a minute before the end of the day, and the city losing?

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Hmm, out of the 6 players still in the game, 4 have been named!

Yes, the probability that there's a Mafia player among them is quite high.

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We will try to role-play the version that the Master and Nefe are both Mafia and that the clue on the first day and the push for Nefe's execution on the second day are a performance.

It sounds very implausible, of course...

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When rereading the second and third days, I was very, very, very concerned that the Master categorically stated that we, Nefe and I, could not be a Mafia pair. There is only one combination of checks that could have given him such confidence - and that is if he hit us with the first two checks and saw the same statuses there...
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At the time of the Hummer/Alex and Heroist/Nefela pairings, only 3 checks had been completed.

That is, all four couldn't be checked. Does that make sense? I think so.

 

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If Alex can only be peaceful with Tox under this scenario, then I think it's necessary to strongly dispute his arguments.

Heroist, I see you're not asleep!

Am I understanding correctly that you are disputing the probability that Alex can only be peaceful if his status is "sleeping"?

Or are you strongly disputing that Alex can be "Happiness" because "Happiness" already paid him a visit in the first night?

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Let's play another round where we're the Mafia – me and Tox. Tox and Gumer. Me and Master.
E si sui vius, er mi grans benananza,
e si ieu muoir, er mi grans deliuriers
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There is only one combination of checks that could have given him such confidence - and that is if he hit us with the first two checks and saw the same statuses there...

 

Tox... I'm going to execute you now for not having any peaceful roles! 

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But there couldn't have been two checks on me and Nefele during the first two nights with the same status. If that were the case, Nefele would have been 100% safe for him after Mackie's death.

I trust Master even less now.
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Forget about hitting me and you (hitting is random, right?)

And Joy and Sadness, Dream!

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Nephela, please stop bothering me! Read through the previous days, reread what I said about whom. It seems my role is already quite obvious, and no one, except you, is suggesting I'm the Mafia.
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"If that were the case, then Nefeela would be 100% safe for him after Mackie's death."
Could you elaborate on this point? What's the reasoning behind it?

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And I'm not putting you on the mafia list, I'm just being paranoid.

I can afford to, there are three of you here, I won't execute anyone, and you can stop me if necessary.

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Damn, lol, I'm an idiot, I glitched out and for a moment I thought Sadness was a nightmare, lol.

Then don't read my last couple of posts.

So, for Master, being Despair, to strongly assert that we can't be a team, he either saw the "Nightmare" status in you or me, or he saw "Dream" in one of us and "Nightmare" in the other, lol.

But the problem is, I know my status, and Happiness isn't a nightmare, lol.

Master, are you reading this? Can you comment on my thoughts without getting modkilled?

So, is it really that simple - and the mafia is Alex/Nephela?

Or, Nephela, do you still want to compete with Heroist in the vote for the Suffering status? If you are, are you willing to risk it and execute an imposter, lol?
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We will try to play out the version that the Master and Nefela are both Mafia, and that the clue on the first day and the agitation for Nefela's execution on the second day is a performance?
I'm also thinking about that, but it's too risky and without guaranteed benefits.

I suggest choosing between Alex-Nefela, Alex-Gumer, Master-Gumer as Mafia.

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Heroist, I see you're not sleeping!

Am I understanding correctly that you are questioning the probability that Alex can be a Town member only if his status is "sleeping"?

Or are you strongly disputing that Alex can be Happiness because Happiness already honored him with his presence on the first night?

I'm already asleep and don't understand anything.

I can't decipher it, so I don't get banned.
Rereading my post with the vote for execution, along with Tox's assumptions, and the fact that no one wanted to catch me on this message, should be enough.


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