Mafia 109. Dreams of the Void Warriors — Mafia

Вова Вист

5 years ago

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Well, I don't want to execute **Arandor** yet. In the No Night Vote, it would be possible to leave if no one was killed at night, so I agree to **execute Nefela

**Online voting results:**

Execute Arandor - 1 (ToX)
Execute Nefela - 2 (Arandor, Crabby)
No Night Vote - 1 (Macca)

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macca

5 years ago

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Crabby

Deer Valley - 2002 Winter Olympics (2002 is the year Nephela was born) - they wanted to hold them in Quebec - Quebec's sister city is Saint Petersburg (reference to Nephela's quente)

To be honest, this looks way too convincing now. I'm thinking about executing Nephela, but I'm also not sure if a clue can consist of several parts or not.

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Nephela, can you say something? Maybe you suspect someone, not based on the clues, but based on activity/behavior? I'm interested to hear from you.

Arandor

5 years ago

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The city's activity includes voting, not just pointless chatter. Some are quite capable of pretending to be undecided peacekeepers while actually being Mafia, but that's not the main issue right now. As for the Mafia, it's generally in their best interest to eliminate someone, as long as it's not one of their own. Otherwise, there's a scattering of votes, attempts to defend, and so on. I won't change my vote and believe that it's better to take a risk, especially since so many theories have already been put forward. It's better to execute someone based on evidence and make a mistake while trying to play correctly than to simply believe someone's nonsense and lose due to stupidity.

ToX

5 years ago

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We can't execute Nefelu, guys. And I'm starting to dislike Arandor's behavior more and more after I voted for him. The arguments are along the lines of "TOXIC ISN'T CHECKED, HE'S WRITING TO TOO MANY PEOPLE IN THE PEACEFUL PHASE." Yeah, sure, if I were a checker, I would have given a clear hint about one player from day one so that I could catch a modkill right away, yeah. Plus, he repeated my request to investigate the Mormons. If you don't want to risk it and pressure Master/Arandor, then it's better to either truly vote for NNV, or vote to eliminate Crabbi/Heroist/even Gumer, whatever. You can team up with me and Nefelu if you want, but I just follow my gut feeling. It's like in the last game with Morny - and it worked out then.

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The clue about Nefelu is garbage. Among Master/Arandor, there is definitely one mafia member, I'm sure of it now. They are putting too much pressure. Master and Arandor, I have two questions for you, let's try to have a dialogue: 1) If I'm mafia, what are the two players who are with me? Can you clearly suggest a mafia team? 2) Are you willing to vote for NNV or execute someone else besides Nefelu?

Arandor

5 years ago

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and zero text on the interpretation of my version of the clue, yeah).

ToX

5 years ago

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I would still suggest that the town take the risk of pushing for the execution of strong players and the Master/Arandor, and if we end up in a mirror world, either Bolk should visit me, or I'll be next in line for execution.

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Arandor

and zero text about the interpretation of my version of the clue, huh?

Honestly, I missed that...

I just got home from a live-action role-playing event, so I'll go back and reread the day's events. The first day is probably pointless to reread, as both the Mafia and the Mirror World players agreed to execute the Mana.

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Вова Вист

5 years ago

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Arandor

I won't change my vote.

ToX

2) Are you ready to go into a Non-Nuclear War or execute someone else besides Nefi?

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Arandor

5 years ago

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ToX

I would still suggest that the city take the risk of eliminating strong players and executing the Master/Arandor. And if we end up in a world war, either Bolk should join me, or I'll be next in line for execution.

Sounds like: let's eliminate the strong players, and then finish off the weak and inactive ones later. Excellent plan. And a world war shouldn't generally offer this, because in case of failure, it immediately leads to a loss. I don't see the point in changing the voice to someone else, just because of your heart's desire, even though there are several versions available for Nefelu.

Heroist

5 years ago

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>they wanted to hold it in Quebec – a twin city of Quebec and Saint Petersburg.
There doesn't seem to be any feedback.

I also dug around for clues about the second day, but it didn't lead anywhere.
There's no direct route from Salt Lake City to Deer Valley, which is a shame, because it would have allowed us to go through the Masons to San Bernardino (Crabby).
We could take the safe route: Park City - Sundance, then, for example, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid - Hill, George Roy (?), but again, the chain is too long and doesn't lead anywhere yet.
The last option is through the cities that hosted the Freestyle World Championships, but it's unclear how to search there.

And I still have the feeling that the players staged a big debate to please the mafia.

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macca

5 years ago

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Arandor

Sounds like: let's eliminate the strong ones, and then finish off the weak and inactive ones. A great plan. And the game shouldn't offer this in general, because in case of failure, it immediately leads to a loss.

I don't see the point in changing the voice to someone else, just because of your heart's desire, even though there are several versions available for Nefel.

So, you can't eliminate strong units just because they are strong? Your point of view, frankly, is weaker in this argument.

ToX

5 years ago

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Gumer, Makka, you have two camps – pro-Nefela and anti-Nefela. Which one will you join? We have cute catgirls and cookies, by the way! And in general, let us know, we haven't heard from you in a while...

Krabby, Heroist, I've reread everything – and it's complicated with you. For now, based on indirect facts and my own assessment of roles, Master and Arandor fit very well into a mafia pairing.

At first, I thought Heroist was more peaceful, then, after the attacks from Arandor and Master, I thought Krabby was more peaceful, but after Krabby's post, where he says that Makka/Gumer/Nefela are two mafia members, I want to believe Heroist more again...

In any case, I would like to hear from both of you.

Alex, I don't want to tell you what to do, you seem to understand what to do yourself, but I really ask you not to touch Nefela and Gumer today. They are the last on the list of potential negatives right now.

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From SLS and the 2002 Olympics, there is a connection to Deer Valley. It's a bit convoluted, but it exists. If you go to the article about slalom at the 2002 Olympics, it will indicate the location.

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More precisely, not about slalom, but about alpine skiing... Here, in short - https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8B%D0%B6%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%82_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B7%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%9E%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BF%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%B8%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%85_2002

Нефела

5 years ago

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What should I write?

Sammaf can't just shout for no reason a second time.

Aaron Fleming (Quenta Arandora) -- Aaron -- Aaron's Tomb -- Justinian I, also known as the Great -- Justinian I's Wars (a section in the Wikipedia article on Foreign Policy and Wars, although this is not a mandatory step) -- Iberian War or the Iranian-Byzantine War (526–532), or Lazic War, also known as the Iranian-Byzantine War of 541–562

Iranian-Byzantine War (526–532) -- Christianity -- Old Testament -- Pentateuch (Torah) -- Moses (author) -- Aaron, brother of Moses

ToX

5 years ago

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Not bad, Nefi, not bad. But I don't like the second option because

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Iрано-византийская война_(526—532) -- Христианство

This is a very vague associative transition... You can also follow the second clue to a heresy in the spirit of "Dir-Valley-USA-Master/Crabby/Gummer".

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Вова Вист

5 years ago

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ToX

From the SLC and OG 2002, there is a way to Deer Valley via backlinks. It's a bit broken, but it exists. If you go to the article about slalom at the OG 2002, the venue will be listed there.

More accurately, not about slalom, but about alpine skiing... Anyway, here - https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93...%B0%D1%85_2002

The Freestyle World Championships also workhttps://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A7%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%BF%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%82_%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D1%84%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB%D1%83