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The main thing is not to get killed by the first Warrior in the very first battle.
Be strong. Believe
Arandor
Posts from Mafia 109. Dreams of the Void Warriors
Нефела
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And why do they always record me with poor quality...
Accept it, let's go have tea together)
Bol shoots me and goes to sleep until the end of the game.
Bol, defeated! Aww, so cute-lya
I'm talking about this newspaper.
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>[Arandor]>"Why?"
I don't know. Theoretically, he has protection against execution or attack; practically, he has protection against either, and we'll have a 100% target for Bol.
Каждому будет дано по его вере
Heroist
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>Regarding the cabbage. x)
Nice answer.
Nice answer.
Whatever
Arandor
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essentially, it's either defense or offense, and we'll have a 100% target for Pain.
Be strong. Believe
ToX
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I didn't understand anything from your latest posts.
If a peaceful Master is executed, Grief kills me, and the Mafia kills a third peaceful player, then attempting to execute the first Warrior after that is a guaranteed loss.
The next day, if the Mafia doesn't get anyone into Suffering, it will be 3-3, and the Mafia won't be executed.
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Anyway, fine, if you don't want to play according to the branches, then don't.
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I'm already letting go, and I'm ready to go into NNV (No Night Vote) if the Master insists. But only on the condition that Grief does NOT shoot either Crabby or Nefelu.
For now, cancel the execution of the Master, execute Arandor.
If a peaceful Master is executed, Grief kills me, and the Mafia kills a third peaceful player, then attempting to execute the first Warrior after that is a guaranteed loss.
The next day, if the Mafia doesn't get anyone into Suffering, it will be 3-3, and the Mafia won't be executed.
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Anyway, fine, if you don't want to play according to the branches, then don't.
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I'm already letting go, and I'm ready to go into NNV (No Night Vote) if the Master insists. But only on the condition that Grief does NOT shoot either Crabby or Nefelu.
For now, cancel the execution of the Master, execute Arandor.
Граф Орлов
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By the way, Alex, it's been a while. What's your take on things?
Note that the Master isn't playing the psychology game and isn't in a hurry to discuss anything other than the evidence. This is quite suspicious.
evidence > psychology
If we're talking about psychology, I'd rather execute the inactive players. Theoretically, I can even imagine a town in the form of the Master, Nefela, Tox, myself, and someone else.
But this conformism towards Nefela looks like an attempt to latch onto Tox, who is currently the most peaceful and is protecting her.
The last thing I want today is to accidentally execute a town member (Bol). After rereading the discussions from days 1 and 2, I've come to the conclusion that Crabbi and Nefela are most likely not in a town alliance. I would suggest going for a No Night Vote (NNV) today, and let Bol shoot one of the pair Crabbi/Nefela tonight. Fortunately, there will be no more redirects, so we won't accidentally eliminate Bol, although a block might interfere. But the Mafia can provide information with a block. What do you guys think about this?
Gumer, Makka, Nefela, Alex, we need to execute the Master. Let's open a new thread right now and not change our votes until the end of the day. I really ask you to play along with me and trust my judgment.
Hmm, I think I'm starting to understand what you mean, and if this isn't some impossible-level Mafia plan, then we really have a good chance of making a good execution with him, but there's also a chance of doing something really bad. I'd rather go for an NNV today and wait for new information.
Bol kills me, a town member.
MasteR
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I just can't understand Tox's motives. If he's a brazen Mafia member, then I suppose he's working with Alex and someone from the Nereida/Crabby pair. If he's a Town member, then I don't understand this destructive game he's playing for the town, hindering the execution or killing of a potential Mafia member, based on some personal motives.
Arandor
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Yes, let’s just execute someone and be done with it, but not by listening to Tox. It would be fine if he were just an auditor, but given his extensive lists, it’s very doubtful; otherwise, he only makes things worse.
I still suggest Nefela; besides, with the I-V war, it’s easy to transition to Gumilev, and his parents are poets (poetry is present in Nefela’s quest). It’s much shorter than the rest. And it’s a more logical transition (for the GM) than to some city/country/nationality, etc., of which there are many in the article.
Execute Nefela
I still suggest Nefela; besides, with the I-V war, it’s easy to transition to Gumilev, and his parents are poets (poetry is present in Nefela’s quest). It’s much shorter than the rest. And it’s a more logical transition (for the GM) than to some city/country/nationality, etc., of which there are many in the article.
Execute Nefela
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Arandor
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And you might also consider that Utah is predominantly a Mormon state.
(This relates to the second clue and the second suspect.)
Be strong. Believe
macca
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Let's just execute someone and be done with it, but not by listening to Tox.
What, are you nervous? This phrase alone raises a lot of suspicion ;)
save animals, eat the rich
Вова Вист
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I've read your daily report, and here's what I have to say:
Arandor and Heroist are not very clear to me yet, but I think they seem more like city dwellers. I would also add Count Orlov to this group.
Goomer, respect, will you now vote against me in every game?
Nefela and Macca are currently 50/50 for me; I need to read more about them.
ToX and MasteR seem a bit shady to me, and I think one of them is a Mafia member. This could be either ToX, who is trying to confuse everyone, or MasteR, who is trying to sway people to his side with clues.
In conclusion, I think the Mafia team consists of two of: Nefela/Macca/Goomer, and one of: ToX/Master.
I would like to leave ToX and MasteR for later, let them reveal more, and execute someone from the trio Nefela/Macca/Goomer.
Also, do you think a clue can consist of several parts?
For example:
Dir-Velli - 2002 Winter Olympics (2002 - Nefela's year of birth) - were supposed to be held in Quebec - a twin city of Quebec - St. Petersburg (a reference to Nefela's quest)
macca
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I just can't understand Tox's motives. If he's an arrogant Mafia member, then I suppose he's working with Alex and someone from the Nereida/Crabby pair. If he's a Town member, then I don't understand such destructive gameplay for the town, hindering the execution or killing of a potential Mafia member, based on some personal motives.
I don't think his suggestion not to execute Nereida is "destructive," because there was evidence against both Crabby and Nereida, and I think few people trust them enough to execute them based on that evidence. I personally am not very ready to do that, plus this is the part of the game where there is practically no information, and ideally, there will be much more information tomorrow. I think it's better to NNV (No Night Vote) this day.
save animals, eat the rich
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Online voting results:
Execute Crabby, Heroist, Master, Arandor - 1 (ToX)
Execute Nefelu - 1 (Arandor)
NNV - 1 (Macca)
Execute Crabby, Heroist, Master, Arandor - 1 (ToX)
Execute Nefelu - 1 (Arandor)
NNV - 1 (Macca)
Arandor
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In Town of Salem, you can continue to investigate until the town loses. And in general, the game should be played in a more relaxed and enjoyable way.
As for Tox, you can simply observe his statements and votes throughout the day to understand that following such a person could be dangerous for the town. And it's not even about him being a Mafia member, but about his erratic behavior. He simply confuses the town and makes assumptions about game-related or non-game-related moments, which are based on unclear grounds. Maybe 7 years ago, it was possible to identify some players based on their psychology or activity, but that time has passed. And there is evidence. If you don't like long chains of reasoning, I've found a shorter piece of evidence, again pointing to Nefel. If none of the available evidence is satisfactory, then the issue lies with the players.
Be strong. Believe
macca
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In HoMM, you can keep investigating until the town loses. And in general, you should play more casually and for fun. As for Tox, you can simply observe his conclusions and votes throughout the day to understand that following such a person might be dangerous for the town. And it's not even about him being a Mafia member, but about his erratic behavior. He just confuses the town, and then writes about some game-related or non-game-related moments and other assumptions that are based on who knows what. Maybe 7 years ago, it was possible to identify some players based on their psychology or activity, but that time has long passed. And there is evidence. If you don't like long chains of reasoning, I actually found a shorter piece of evidence, and again, it points to Nefel. If none of the available evidence is convincing, then the problem lies with the players themselves.
I strongly disagree with the idea that you can't judge based on psychology. The fact that a person jumps from one conclusion to another suggests to me that they are considering many possible scenarios just to help the town win, because the more active the town is during the day, the more likely it is to win. Mafia members, on the other hand, would push for a single option that benefits only them.
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