Mafia 109. Dreams of the Void Warriors — Mafia

ToX

5 years ago

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Because I found evidence against him in 15 minutes, without even digging too deep into the dates and cities from the quest...

Yes, it's a beautiful solution in theory, but the Master's evidence isn't much worse. I don't want to execute anyone based on the first piece of evidence...

And Crabby's response, where he tried to retaliate against me, looked spontaneous and not very well thought out. It's unlikely that the mafia team was involved there; if Crabby were a member of the mafia, they would probably have come up with a better accusation collectively than just "Sammaf!"

Граф Орлов

5 years ago

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There are many clues, and they are good and varied. Some are better (Nefela). Some are a little worse (Krabby). Some are quite dubious (Tox). I certainly won't execute them based on these. Because a clue is always the scariest of random elements. Especially when, for example, my query includes: Saransk, Mordovia, Russian role-players, Bolshevism, the Romanovs, three years, one complete date, and a method of suicide, while someone like Humer has just a name, surname, date, and method. I think a clue can be attached to everyone here. Of course, some of these connections will be crazier than a March cat. If one of them is really perfect, smooth, like a helmet's dome, then it can still be taken into account. Psychology? On the first day? Enough to draw some conclusions about some personalities, but definitely not enough for an execution. Let Fragment be hanged. As I said, the probability of his being the culprit is higher than it ever will be with a clue. And where are Nefela and Humer? Should I execute them tomorrow... I'm sure I'll end up in inactive status by the third time...

Fragment

5 years ago

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Because I found evidence against him in 15 minutes, without digging too deep into the dates and cities from the quest...

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Nebo also compiled it.

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Yes, it's a beautiful solution in theory, but the Master's evidence isn't much better. I don't want to execute anyone based on the first piece of evidence...

The Master's evidence is still a bit too long, plus I don't really like that it directly points to a name. I'm more likely to believe that Nebo, when compiling the evidence, entered a date into the search rather than the name of the quest.

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And Krabby's response, where he tried to retaliate against me, looked spontaneous and not very well thought out. It's unlikely that the Mafia team was involved; if Krabby were Mafia, they would probably have collectively come up with a better accusation than "Sammaf!"

I would assume that if he did consult with anyone, it was more about how to present the evidence, rather than the post itself.

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Небо

5 years ago

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Execute Fragment - 6 (ToX, Graf Orlov, Heroist, Crabby, Arandor, macca)
Execute Crabby - 3 (Fragment, Revan, MasteR)

6 votes are required for execution.

ToX

5 years ago

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Don't touch Nefelu and Gumer for now. Consider them under my responsibility. (ha-ha, mafotima is showing up with their full team right away, ha-ha-ha)

Fragment

5 years ago

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Count Orlov

There are many clues, and they are good and varied. Some are better (Nephela). Some are a little worse (Krabby). Some are quite dubious (Tox). I certainly won't execute anyone based on them.
Because a clue is always the scariest of random events.

By the way, Alex, did you read post #107?
Lynx correctly deduced the clue about Locken the maniac during that mafia game. The circumstances were such that she herself was hanged, not least for throwing it in at the least opportune moment.
I'm saying that perhaps it's worth trusting the deductions more.

ToX

5 years ago

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Lynx correctly figured out the clue about Locken the maniac back then. The circumstances were such that she herself was hanged, not least for the fact that she was thrown into the game at an inopportune moment.

You know, I used to think that I had complex clues, but then Master outplayed the Mafia after me, and I was really disappointed :(

I'm saying that Nebo probably has more complex clues than mine; he also seems to like to make things complicated, as far as I remember from previous games.

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Fragment

5 years ago

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ToX

Don't touch Nefelu and Gumer for now.

Consider them under my responsibility.

What about Crabby? :) Or is he under Mackey's responsibility?

ToX

5 years ago

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Crabby still seems gray to me, a little closer to black. I don't believe Ulrike; I think everything is more complicated for Nebo, plus, I definitely remember him saying in one of my games that he doesn't like clues based on dates...

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My problem is that all I know how to do is look for clues based on dates...

Граф Орлов

5 years ago

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I'm saying that maybe we should trust the clues more.

Which of...
To find the Mafia, you need to think like the Mafia. But to solve a clue, you need to be able to think like Nebok.

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Fragment

5 years ago

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ToX

I mean that Nebo probably has more complex clues than mine; he also seems to like to make things complicated, as far as I remember from previous games.

Well, for example, in the last time, his chains weren't that complex.

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Count Orlov

Which one...

The one about Krabby.

Count Orlov

To find the Mafia, you need to think like the Mafia. But to solve a clue, you need to be able to think like Nebok.

I'm not sure anyone can think exactly like him, but I tried, and it pointed me to Krabby.

kcfgogbfalgfl

5 years ago

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Maybe it would be better to execute Toxa... Hmm.

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ToX

5 years ago

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Fragment

For example, in the last time, his chain of reasoning wasn't that complex.

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It was about Crabby. I'm not sure anyone can think exactly like him, but I tried, and it pointed me to Crabby.

That's really cool, of course, but there's one small problem. In the thread you linked, there isn't a single clue related to the date! And when there are writers involved, it's very easy to come up with something based on the date of birth/death...

That's why I'm hesitant about my own version. I would really like to delve deeper into the associations rather than the dates, but that would require rereading the entire quest and spending a long time guessing in the wiki, trying to figure out what information would be most logically connected to something... I'm not sure I'll be able to do it. And I don't have a Mafia teammate who could help me in the chat, because I'm a town member.

MasteR

5 years ago

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Okay... It seems no defenders have appeared for Fragment. That's not bad. I was thinking, the maniac really should have used the night check if he actually plans to kill anyone in this game, because he needs to try not to hit someone from the mountain faction, and he needs to know their status. Am I right in understanding that if the maniac goes to check Pain, and Pain ignores the night defense from the maniac, it won't be reflected in the newspaper? The probability of this is low, but it still exists. Another question for Heaven. If Pleasure tries to resurrect Yasha, but is redirected by the mafia's ultimate ability, will the resurrection work? Can it work as healing on a second target? Okay, Execute Fragment. I still suspect Neffela and Crabby; most likely, one of them is the mafia.